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BumRushDaShow

(165,432 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:54 PM Oct 2023

Republican Jim Jordan loses first US House speaker vote, postpones another round

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Source: Reuters

October 17, 2023 6:08 PM EDT Updated 6 min ago


WASHINGTON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Combative right-wing Republican Jim Jordan postponed a second vote for speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives on Tuesday after coming up short in the first vote, raising questions about his prospects for seizing the top job. The Ohio lawmaker said the House would vote in a second round at 11 a.m. ET (1500 GMT) on Wednesday.

Jordan, a close ally of former President Donald Trump, won 200 votes, short of the 217 needed to win the job, in a first vote on Tuesday afternoon as 20 of his fellow Republican voted against him. All 212 Democrats voted for their leader, Hakeem Jeffries.

The loss means that for now the House remains leaderless, as it has been since a handful of Republican insurgents engineered Kevin McCarthy's ouster as speaker two weeks ago. That has left Congress unable to respond to wars in the Middle East and Ukraine, with just a month to go before the U.S. government faces another partial shutdown deadline. Jordan's office had said to expect a second vote on Tuesday, but postponed action after several hours of closed-door meetings with fellow Republicans.

It was not clear whether he would pick up more support or see his opposition grow. McCarthy never got less than 200 votes in 15 rounds over four days in January. "We're making progress. I feel good about it," Jordan told reporters. "We're gonna keep going." If Jordan prevails, a conservative who has spent years fighting with leaders of his own party could end up in one of the most powerful jobs in Washington, putting him second in line for the presidency behind the vice president.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/hardline-republican-jim-jordan-makes-grab-us-house-speakers-gavel-2023-10-17/



Of 20 "hard (GOP) nos" - 3 "Zeldin", 1 "Garcia", 7 "Scalise", 6 "McCarthys", 1 "Emmer", 1 "Cole", 1 "Massey"

ETA - they are now in recess "Subject to the Call of the Chair".

UPDATE: 6:00 PM EDT - no more votes for today. Will reconvene Wed. Oct. 18, 2023 @11 am EDT.


Article updated.

Previous article/headlines -

Republican Jim Jordan plots next move after losing first US House speaker vote

October 17, 2023 4:07 PM EDT Updated 14 min ago


WASHINGTON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Combative right-wing Republican Jim Jordan failed to win a first vote on Tuesday to serve as speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, but more votes were expected to follow that could wear down his opponents. The Ohio lawmaker backed by former President Donald Trump won 200 votes, short of the 217 needed to win the job, as 20 of his fellow Republican voted against him. All 212 Democrats voted for their leader, Hakeem Jeffries.

The loss means that for now the House remains leaderless, as it has been since a handful of Republican hardliners engineered Kevin McCarthy's ouster as speaker two weeks ago. That has left Congress unable to respond to wars in the Middle East and Ukraine, with just a month to go before the U.S. government faces another partial shutdown deadline.

Jordan's office said another vote was expected on Tuesday. It was not clear whether he would pick up more support or see his opposition grow. McCarthy never got less than 200 votes in 15 rounds over four days in January.

"Even Pope Francis, it took him five ballots to get elected," said Republican Representative Nicole Malliotakis. "So let's just see how the rest of the day goes." If Jordan prevails, a conservative who has spent years fighting with leaders of his own party could end up in one of the most powerful jobs in Washington, putting him second in line for the presidency behind the vice president.




October 17, 2023 2:50 PM EDT Updated 33 min ago


WASHINGTON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Combative right-wing Republican Jim Jordan failed to win a first vote on Tuesday to serve as speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, but more votes were expected to follow that could wear down his opponents. The Ohio lawmaker backed by former President Donald Trump won 200 votes, short of the 217 needed to win the job, as 20 of his fellow Republican voted against him. All 212 Democrats voted for their leader, Hakeem Jeffries.

The loss means that for now the House remains leaderless, as it has been since a handful of Republican hardliners engineered Kevin McCarthy's ouster as speaker two weeks ago. That has left Congress unable to respond to wars in the Middle East and Ukraine, with just a month to go before the U.S. government faces another partial shutdown deadline.

It is not clear how many of Jordan's Republican opponents would hold firm in subsequent votes. McCarthy never got less than 200 votes in 15 rounds over four days in January.

If Jordan prevails, a conservative who has spent years fighting with leaders of his own party could end up in one of the most powerful jobs in Washington, putting him second in line for the presidency behind the vice president. "He is a patriot, an America First warrior who wins the toughest of fights," Republican Representative Elise Stefanik said as she nominated Jordan for speaker on the House floor.



Republican Jim Jordan loses first vote for US House speaker

October 17, 2023 2:26 PM EDT Updated 17 min ago


WASHINGTON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Combative right-wing Republican Jim Jordan failed to win a first vote on Tuesday to serve as speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, but more votes were expected to follow that could wear down his opponents. The Ohio lawmaker backed by former President Donald Trump won 200 votes, short of the 217 needed to win the job, as 20 of his fellow Republican voted against him. All 212 Democrats voted for their leader, Hakeem Jeffries.

The loss means that for now the House remains leaderless, as it has been since a handful of Republican hardliners engineered Kevin McCarthy's ouster as speaker two weeks ago. That has left Congress unable to respond to wars in the Middle East and Ukraine, with just a month to go before the U.S. government faces another partial shutdown deadline.

It is not clear how many of Jordan's Republican opponents would hold firm in subsequent votes. McCarthy never got less than 200 votes in 15 rounds over four days in January. If Jordan prevails, a conservative who has spent years fighting with leaders of his own party could end up in one of the most powerful jobs in Washington, putting him second in line for the presidency behind the vice president. "He is a patriot, an America First warrior who wins the toughest of fights," Republican Representative Elise Stefanik said as she nominated Jordan for speaker on the House floor.

Seven Republicans voted for Steve Scalise, the No. 2 House Republican whose own bid for speaker fell apart last week and six voted instead for McCarthy. Three Republicans voted for Lee Zeldin, who retired from Congress in January, and Republican Representatives Tom Cole, Tom Emmer, Thomas Massie and Mike Garcia got one vote each.



Original article/headline -

Republican Jim Jordan falls short in first vote for US House speaker

October 17, 2023 1:52 PM EDT Updated a few seconds ago


WASHINGTON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Combative right-wing Republican Jim Jordan fell short on Tuesday in a vote to serve as speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, but more votes were expected to follow that could wear down his opponents.

The Ohio lawmaker and ardent ally of former President Trump won 200 votes, short of the 217 needed to win the job, as 20 of his fellow Republican voted against him. All 212 Democrats voted for their leader, Hakeem Jeffries. It is not clear how many of those Republican opponents would hold firm in subsequent votes.

If he prevails, the Ohio lawmaker who has spent years fighting with leaders of his own party could end up in one of the most powerful jobs in Washington, putting him second in line for the presidency.

Republicans who control the chamber nominated Jordan as a replacement for Kevin McCarthy was ousted as speaker by a small group of his fellow Republicans on Oct. 3.
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Republican Jim Jordan loses first US House speaker vote, postpones another round (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 OP
party of losers LOL nt Javaman Oct 2023 #1
Suks that many voted for him. SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #2
Still fewer than the feckless McCarthy got on his first ballot. 4lbs Oct 2023 #7
+1 Auggie Oct 2023 #10
I will pray for the 20 Republicans with backbones... DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Beachnutt Oct 2023 #3
By comparison, McCarthy got 203 in his first vote. 4lbs Oct 2023 #4
The real solution is to get more Dems in the House as soon as possible FakeNoose Oct 2023 #5
We can count on Republicans... Eyeball_Kid Oct 2023 #6
Twenty Republicans not willing to hand the gavel to an "insurrectionist" (code for traitor). hay rick Oct 2023 #8
Their price probably hasn't been met yet so just give them time. cstanleytech Oct 2023 #28
not to mention a pervert-enabler.... DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #35
Too bad the winner didn't need just a simple majority. ificandream Oct 2023 #9
Exactly. lees1975 Oct 2023 #11
The 'winner' only DOES need a 'simple majority'--- of the entire house DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #36
Womp Womp. Deep State Witch Oct 2023 #12
Cocky a**nGym Jordan was on news last night guaranteeing he would win the speaker ship today. iluvtennis Oct 2023 #13
Maybe 5 Republicans can vote for Hakeem Jeffries IronLionZion Oct 2023 #14
I keep saying and I'll say it again William769 Oct 2023 #15
I was hopeful that would be true after the first vote. ificandream Oct 2023 #16
Agreed. William769 Oct 2023 #17
There were rumors that if he didn't get it on the 1st round BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #22
I don't think so, either. herding cats Oct 2023 #18
Good to see you. William769 Oct 2023 #19
As always, it's good to see you, too! herding cats Oct 2023 #20
in an act of defiance, jordan will announce Javaman Oct 2023 #21
If those 20 voted present... Mawspam2 Oct 2023 #23
The House GOP: LudwigPastorius Oct 2023 #24
Guys, hitting it isn't gonna make it work better! n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2023 #26
Only twenty? malthaussen Oct 2023 #25
Looks like the Republican circus is back. cstanleytech Oct 2023 #27
Gym Jacket Off Jordan alotus51 Oct 2023 #29
A nice case of "locked-in syndrome" for him would be salutary. niyad Oct 2023 #30
Hey GQP Chi67 Oct 2023 #31
Ready for this? Chi67 Oct 2023 #32
Using some side methods, I was able to send him a message. 4lbs Oct 2023 #37
Is Lou there? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2023 #33
LOL. 4lbs Oct 2023 #38

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
7. Still fewer than the feckless McCarthy got on his first ballot.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:03 PM
Oct 2023

Grab a Snickers. This will take a while.... again.




 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
34. I will pray for the 20 Republicans with backbones...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:08 PM
Oct 2023

Funny how the "liberal" MSM tried to make it look 'inevitable' today....


Well, not so funny.... but thank dog they lost today

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4lbs

(7,395 posts)
4. By comparison, McCarthy got 203 in his first vote.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:58 PM
Oct 2023

Still needed 14 more votes and several more days, along with a lot of concessions.

Almost the same number voted for neither, like what happened in January with McCarthy.



https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-speaker-elected-kevin-mccarthy-seeks-gavel/story?id=96085279

House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy of California is making his second run at the speakership, but he is facing resistance from enough hardliners in his party that he failed to seize the gavel on the first ballot, with 203 votes to 212 votes for Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries of New York.

Nineteen Republicans voted for neither nominee; 10 of those voted for Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., a protest candidate against McCarthy. It's the first time a speaker hasn't been elected on the first ballot in 100 years.




FakeNoose

(40,085 posts)
5. The real solution is to get more Dems in the House as soon as possible
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:01 PM
Oct 2023

Unfortunately it won't happen soon enough to stop the charade.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
6. We can count on Republicans...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:02 PM
Oct 2023

for their abject stupidity when choosing Jordan as their leader. They KNOW he's an awful person in a leadership role, but they'll cave and vote for him anyway. They also know that Jordan will be recalled within weeks and ousted as Speaker because he cannot work with Democrats. He's toxic. The one person who is pushing for Jordan to become Speaker is Trump. He is on his "retribution" tour right now, and wants to start by keeping the GOP House in utter disarray. So Captain Toxic is pushing for Congressman Toxic to become Toxic Speaker. And it's all happening on TV.

hay rick

(9,328 posts)
8. Twenty Republicans not willing to hand the gavel to an "insurrectionist" (code for traitor).
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:04 PM
Oct 2023

I'm thrilled.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
35. not to mention a pervert-enabler....
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:12 PM
Oct 2023

Guess maybe they did not want to go "down on the mat" with him....


 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
36. The 'winner' only DOES need a 'simple majority'--- of the entire house
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:13 PM
Oct 2023

but they won't get any Democrats helping them along..........
thus they need almost every vote of the GQP caucus


iluvtennis

(21,459 posts)
13. Cocky a**nGym Jordan was on news last night guaranteeing he would win the speaker ship today.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:35 PM
Oct 2023

He said they would stay on the floor and vote until he won. So, now he's eating crow - good!

ificandream

(11,665 posts)
16. I was hopeful that would be true after the first vote.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 03:35 PM
Oct 2023

The second one will give us a better idea.

BumRushDaShow

(165,432 posts)
22. There were rumors that if he didn't get it on the 1st round
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 05:05 PM
Oct 2023

he would lose 5 more votes. This was mainly because there are a number of them protesting the Rules change - particularly the vacate-the-chair one and have threatened to withhold votes unless some Rules changes happen.

We shall see!

herding cats

(19,967 posts)
18. I don't think so, either.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 04:01 PM
Oct 2023

I've definitely been wrong before though.

Next vote is supposed to be this evening after 6pm. We shall see.

Mawspam2

(1,081 posts)
23. If those 20 voted present...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 06:29 PM
Oct 2023

...that would lower the threshold to 208 making Hakeem the speaker.

alotus51

(33 posts)
29. Gym Jacket Off Jordan
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 07:51 PM
Oct 2023

Should be what he is called. Also have you ever seen a chin so in need of a fist?

Chi67

(1,272 posts)
31. Hey GQP
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:04 PM
Oct 2023

Put forth someone who is not a serial sex abuser. Is that possible? Oh wait, McCarthy was probably your only option.

Put McCarthy back in. The rest of you are so bad, no one would want you near their daughters, or sons.

Chi67

(1,272 posts)
32. Ready for this?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 10:08 PM
Oct 2023

You can"t even contact Jordan unless you live in his district! I am a former Ohio resident and tried.

Check it out:

https://jordan.house.gov/address_authentication?form=/contact

I tried the same thing with Dick Durbin in Illinois with my former Ohio address and got through.

Jordan is a chickenshit

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
37. Using some side methods, I was able to send him a message.
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 06:14 PM
Oct 2023

It is anyone's guess if he actually gets it though.

Maybe he has some turd intern going through and "filtering" the messages first.



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