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BumRushDaShow

(165,660 posts)
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 03:50 PM Oct 2023

Ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims: Sources

Source: ABC News

October 24, 2023, 4:46 PM


Former President Donald Trump's final chief of staff in the White House, Mark Meadows, has spoken with special counsel Jack Smith's team at least three times this year, including once before a federal grand jury, which came only after Smith granted Meadows immunity to testify under oath, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The sources said Meadows informed Smith's team that he repeatedly told Trump in the weeks after the 2020 presidential election that the allegations of significant voting fraud coming to them were baseless, a striking break from Trump's prolific rhetoric regarding the election.

According to the sources, Meadows also told the federal investigators Trump was being "dishonest" with the public when he first claimed to have won the election only hours after polls closed on Nov. 3, 2020, before final results were in.

"Obviously we didn't win," a source quoted Meadows as telling Smith's team in hindsight.. Trump has called Meadows, one of the former president's closest and highest-ranking aides in the White House, a "special friend" and "a great chief of staff -- as good as it gets."

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/chief-staff-mark-meadows-granted-immunity-tells-special/story?id=104231281

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Ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims: Sources (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 OP
And yet... mark was FULLY complicit on that phone call to Georgia ecstatic Oct 2023 #1
Thanks for posting this. Turns my stomach to hear it, but so glad it was recorded. erronis Oct 2023 #18
His immunity only covers the Fed charges, not state. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #21
They are falling like flies. ificandream Oct 2023 #2
THIS RIGHT HERE 👆👆👆 BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #3
What a coincidence it is... Think. Again. Oct 2023 #4
I suspect faced with years in prison and hefty legal bills agingdem Oct 2023 #29
"drowing with trump" says it all. That bastard would leave his own mother behind. C Moon Oct 2023 #37
You beat me LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #5
Damn! I should have bought some stock in Kraft Heinz. speak easy Oct 2023 #12
There's a ketchup storm warning out tonight COL Mustard Oct 2023 #32
LOL BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #15
LOL! ShazzieB Oct 2023 #25
That's how it was! BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #27
Oh, I absolutely believe it! ShazzieB Oct 2023 #35
Meadows was all gusto for the Coup d'etat, .. magicarpet Oct 2023 #30
Good. dalton99a Oct 2023 #6
Waiting ............ bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #7
Hmmmm! Traildogbob Oct 2023 #8
HOT DAMN!! Leghorn21 Oct 2023 #9
This would be among the more damning pieces of evidence known to date. LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #10
Hmm! i wonder if THIS is why bluestarone Oct 2023 #11
"the information Meadows provided to the grand jury earlier this year can't be used against him in a federal prosecution riversedge Oct 2023 #13
But it can in a state prosecution. And this information is sharable/usable. erronis Oct 2023 #19
More states might bring charges after seeing testimony from Georgia flippers. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2023 #22
So, you'd rather Smith prosecute Trump without Meadows' testimony? Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #23
Me, neither! ShazzieB Oct 2023 #28
I hope "three's a charm" BigmanPigman Oct 2023 #14
I was waiting for him to flip in Georgia. Demobrat Oct 2023 #16
North Carolina Pride Traildogbob Oct 2023 #17
Don't get me started! More like NC shame! MyMission Oct 2023 #36
My district as well. Traildogbob Oct 2023 #38
Flippers. Flipping. Kid Berwyn Oct 2023 #20
Let's hope Meadows' testimony covers not only Trump Fiendish Thingy Oct 2023 #24
I would think that people like Powell and Ellis BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #26
If he's gotten immunity, Bayard Oct 2023 #31
Meadows went before federal Grand Jury under an immunity arrangement LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #33
There's more flipping going on here than at the International House of Pancakes. tclambert Oct 2023 #34

erronis

(22,650 posts)
18. Thanks for posting this. Turns my stomach to hear it, but so glad it was recorded.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 04:36 PM
Oct 2023

sometimes when I doubt all the charges and counter-charges, having real evidence just makes it right.

Thank gawd for Fani Willis and her perseverance.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
4. What a coincidence it is...
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 04:01 PM
Oct 2023

...that everyone who worked to enable trump's actions are suddenly revealing that they were against those actions all along.

agingdem

(8,769 posts)
29. I suspect faced with years in prison and hefty legal bills
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 05:57 PM
Oct 2023

a plea deal with no jail time (contingent upon telling the truth) beats incarceration and drowning with Trump...

BumRushDaShow

(165,660 posts)
15. LOL
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 04:25 PM
Oct 2023

Was about to make dinner when the breaking banner popped up and it was like this in here -



People have speculated on this for a year but still...

BumRushDaShow

(165,660 posts)
27. That's how it was!
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 05:48 PM
Oct 2023


Banging the mouse because the screen wasn't refreshing fast enough... Me yelling "LET'S GO!!!!! MOVE DAMMIT"!!!

magicarpet

(18,457 posts)
30. Meadows was all gusto for the Coup d'etat, ..
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 06:00 PM
Oct 2023

.... when he thought Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and other sort of Fascist groups like the 1% PerCenters looked like they might actually trash AmeriKKKan Democracy.

Then when reality struck and Special Counsel Jack Smith came along they were eager to jump back on the normal people side of the fence and renounce Fascism, and cheer lead for America once again.

Turn coat traitors.

riversedge

(79,362 posts)
13. "the information Meadows provided to the grand jury earlier this year can't be used against him in a federal prosecution
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 04:22 PM
Oct 2023

If Meadows gets off scott free, then I will say that Lady Justice will not be pleased.



Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/chief-staff-mark-meadows-granted-immunity-tells-special/story?id=104231281


................Meadows has not been charged in Smith's federal case, he has been charged -- along with Trump, Giuliani and 16 others -- by authorities in Georgia for allegedly trying to overturn the election results in that state. Four of those charged have already pleaded guilty and agreed to testify for the prosecution, while the others, including Meadows, Trump and Giuliani, have pleaded not guilty and are awaiting trial.

Meadows sought to have the Georgia case against him moved to federal court, but that effort was denied. He is now appealing that decision.

From 2013 to 2020, Meadows represented North Carolina in Congress, where he also led the conservative House Freedom Caucus for two years.

Under the immunity order from Smith's team, the information Meadows provided to the grand jury earlier this year can't be used against him in a federal prosecution.

Trump has pleaded not guilty in the election-related federal case against him..........................................

Demobrat

(10,262 posts)
16. I was waiting for him to flip in Georgia.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 04:33 PM
Oct 2023

But witness for the prosecution in DC is good too.

Traildogbob

(12,561 posts)
17. North Carolina Pride
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 04:34 PM
Oct 2023

Meadows, Then Cawthorn and now the GQP Super Majority gained by a phony ass Dem candidate that switched parties after a win to give them that power.
North Carolina Christian Morals that hate democracy.
How many are in prison because of trump and his lawyers, that are receiving get out of jail cards.
And they will still continue to support them.
Fuck my state and its criminal gerrymandered shit hole place. And our shit is getting smeared over the whole fucking country.

MyMission

(2,008 posts)
36. Don't get me started! More like NC shame!
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 12:18 AM
Oct 2023

He's a lying sack of shit. For years he lied about getting a college degree, then claimed it was a clerical error that reported he'd earned a BA, when he didn't even have an AA. And then there's the lying about his residence and voter registration, not to mention the crimes he's just gotten immunity for. He will be a problem witness, but will still provide useful information and also corroborate other testimony, according to Adam Schiff in an interview.

Here are some highlights and a link to Meadows Wikipedia page, just to remind folks who he is. He was neither born nor raised in NC.

"A Tea Party Republican, Meadows was a founding member of the Freedom Caucus. During his time in Congress, he was one of the most conservative Republican lawmakers and played an important part of the United States federal government shutdown of 2013. He also sought to remove John Boehner as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives...

On December 14, 2021, Meadows was held in criminal contempt of Congress[9] for refusing to cooperate with the January 6 Select Committee. He is the first White House chief of staff since the Watergate scandal and first former member of Congress to have been held in contempt of Congress.[10][11] The contempt charge was referred to the Justice Department, which declined to prosecute him.[12]

On October 26, 2022, a South Carolina circuit judge ordered Meadows to testify before a Georgia grand jury investigating Republican efforts to reverse the 2020 presidential election results in Georgia. The grand jury was empaneled by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who said the inquiry is examining "the multistate, coordinated efforts to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere."[13] On August 14, 2023, he was indicted along with 18 other people in the prosecution related to the 2020 election in Georgia; Meadows is the second White House Chief of Staff to face criminal charges, after H. R. Haldeman.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Meadows

I've lived in western NC for 20 years. Meadows and cawthorne were elected in my district, but I never called them my congressmen. A big part of me hates it here because of the political climate. This area is very red, 60/40, but the state overall is close to 50/50. That's how I convince myself to stay. The christian missions and questionable morals I found here inspired my DU name.
My Mission is to oppose their mission!

Traildogbob

(12,561 posts)
38. My district as well.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:03 AM
Oct 2023

Moved here after my Navy time in 78. I can’t afford to move and love the mountains.
While in congress, he attempted to shut down the VA hospital in Asheville, one of the highest rated in the country.
When I was faculty, we had a mock interview night with the Wildlife Commission for our students. Before we left, one of the officers invited the students to a fundraiser for the Honorable Mark Meadows, followed by a prayer that praised Meadows.
I have had little respect for the commission since.
Way to Jesusy and GQP for me. And I have a number of students that are officers now.
Meadows and Cawthorn sicken me. The replacement has recently put up a bill to sell large tracts mountain land to DOD for military training.
Pretty sure the wealthy real estate people will stop that, too much money to pocket selling it to Florida for second and third million dollar getaway homes.
We are north Florida here. I think DeSatan has jurisdiction here.
But we gots tons of gun stores, church’s and a Dollar store 1/2 mile from each other in every direction.
Thank God I have endless off trail mountains to escape it all with my labs.
My fear is we are so gerrymandered with could be 65 percent blue and still lose.
Life long NC, but hate the GQP. The red hats took it to crazyville. Old enough to remember Dems ruled because they hated the rich and were for the working class throughout NC.
Can’t get much more red than WNC. After Jesus took over GQP, (they told everyone) and Guns became to number one issue.

BumRushDaShow

(165,660 posts)
26. I would think that people like Powell and Ellis
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 05:43 PM
Oct 2023

let along Ghouliani, would have had that direct contact with the Congress critters - particularly in the states where they were doing their road shows. E.g., people like Scott Perry here in PA. You have stuff like this that went on - https://whyy.org/articles/scott-perry-texts-overturn-2020-election/

A pile of them met here in PA in Gettlysburg at what became a super-spreader event with a table full of insurrectionists, just a few weeks after the election in November 2020 -





They not only need to take out those in Congress who were involved, but those elected officials in the states, like the loon Doug Mastriano here in PA who was at the center of it with insurrectionist Scott Perry.

tclambert

(11,187 posts)
34. There's more flipping going on here than at the International House of Pancakes.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:34 PM
Oct 2023

And they're gonna sing Donald Trump into federal prison.

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