Judge orders Ivanka Trump to testify in $250 million fraud case

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: NBC News

Oct. 27, 2023, 11:02 AM EDT


The judge overseeing the $250 million civil trial against Donald Trump and his company ordered the former president's daughter Ivanka Trump to testify in the case. Judge Arthur Engoron said Friday she could not be called as a witness before Nov. 1, giving her time to appeal the ruling if she chooses.

Trump's attorneys had challenged New York Attorney General Letitia James' subpoena to Ivanka Trump, noting an appeals court had ruled earlier this year that she should be dropped as a defendant in the case over statute of limitations issues. They contended the New York attorney general's office was trying "to continue to harass and burden President Trump’s daughter long after" the appeals court "mandated she be dismissed from the case."

They also contended that the AG waited too long to subpoena her, and argued the office doesn't have jurisdiction over her because she no longer lives in the state. The AG's office contended that Ivanka Trump, a former White House official, still has information important to their case.

"While no longer a Defendant in this action, she indisputably has personal knowledge of facts relevant to the claims against the remaining individual and entity Defendants. But even beyond that, Ms. Trump remains financially and professionally intertwined with the Trump Organization and other Defendants and can be called as a person still under their control," the AG contended in a court filing.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-orders-ivanka-trump-testify-250-million-fraud-case-rcna122482

[underpants]

1. Oh goodie.

I hope he’s there and has to watch it.

[TheBlackAdder]

14. Ha! I needed a good laugh today. Watch his daughter narc on him, else she'll be a prison mom.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

26. Prison time is highly unlikely

It's a civil case, not criminal.

Now if she commits perjury or contempt of court, then she'll qualify for some jail (not prison) time. I don't see her committing contempt, though, and she's probably just smart enough to take the fifth rather than lie.

[TheBlackAdder]

34. Whatever they say here also should have US Treasury ramifications too.

[Ocelot II]

2. This should be interesting.

And the potential for witness tampering by TFG is considerable.

[bluestarone]

19. One of the FIRST questions asked, should be

Has your father contacted you after you received this subpoena?

[Ocelot II]

21. I expect a question to that effect.

And followed up with a question regarding what they talked about. I wonder how much contact they have these days anyhow, considering that she and Jared took their Saudi money and wandered off somewhere as far away from the campaign as possible.

[Attilatheblond]

3. Interesting argument that if someone moves out of a state, they aren't subject to laws

"...argued the office doesn't have jurisdiction over her because she no longer lives in the state." That's some hilarious theory about how to get out of any responsibility for any fraud; just move to a different jurisdiction and say 'neener neener neener'?

Book a flight, Princess, you're going to NYC and no, we aren't accepting any excuse about not having a baby sitter, either!

[BumRushDaShow]

9. Even more ironic given that her dad

"officially" moved out of the state back in 2019 before she and Jared did!

[Ocelot II]

23. It doesn't work that way, and they know it.

[Attilatheblond]

31. But like others with arrested development, stuck in their terrible twos

She doesn't think everybody else knows it so it's worth trying to baffle them all.

Trump Family Motto?
Baffle them with Bullshit

[Irish_Dem]

28. According to Ivanka, I can rob a bank in one state, then move to another state.

Then I am in the clear.

[Clash City Rocker]

4. Now her dad can claim that he barely knows her, they just worked together briefly

[Ziggysmom]

12. She only fetched coffee.

[agingdem]

15. but he still wants to date her...

[Army Brat]

5. TFG objects - mates can't be compelled to testify

[cstanleytech]

6. They should offer her immunity for testimony as then she will be compelled to answer

questions as she can't hide behind the fifth.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

22. It's a civil trial

Not criminal. Making a deal in such a case isn't really applicable.

Taking the fifth also won't help her here, because it *can* be used against her, to undermine her credibility.

[cstanleytech]

29. Ahhh, I had a brain fart and thought this was the criminal one lol

[ificandream]

7. Can we get this live on TV?

[vapor2]

8. POOR PRINCESS

[Mysterian]

10. I hope they ask questions they already know the answers to

and catch the rotten liar lying.

[riversedge]

11. "We want her here in person," Engoron said, noting that he prefers to hear testimony live in court......

for Ivanka--a decision must be made---to lie or not to lie.

Should be interesting.

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..............Ivanka Trump’s attorney had argued that she should not be forced to appear after an appellate court removed her as a defendant in the case.

“Ms. Trump has clearly availed herself of the privilege of doing business in New York,” Engoron said.

The judge also said Ivanka Trump should have submitted an affidavit asserting that she does not live or work in the state presently. “Only she can tell us that, and it’s too late to do that now,” Engoron said.

Following his decision, Engoron quickly denied a follow-up request from Donald Trump’s attorney Chris Kise to entertain a deposition from Ivanka Trump taken in Florida. “We want her here in person,” Engoron said, noting that he prefers to hear testimony live in court....................
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/politics/ivanka-trump-subpoena-judge

[William769]

13. Good! Hopefully I won't be berated for my response in this thread.

As I have in other trump related posts.

[Martin68]

16. She'll plead the fifth.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

20. And it can (and probably will) be used against her

Testimony. Attorneys in civil trials can do that.

[Martin68]

24. Better than spilling the beans on her dad, which will certainly incriminate her further.

[Ocelot II]

25. That won't help her; it's a civil trial.

While she doesn't have to testify regarding crimes she might have committed, in a civil trial the fact that she took the Fifth can be commented on and inferences drawn. And since this is a court trial and not a jury trial, it's even less of a big deal.

[Warpy]

17. She'll be all big eyes and little girl voice

which is starting to look really ridiculous since she's over 40, that "daddy's little girl" act. I think the prosecutors know that behind it is a woman who is hard as nails when it comes to money and that her claim, which will be that she didn't know what daddy made her sign, is ludicrous.

It will be fun to watch.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

18. WTF

argued the office doesn't have jurisdiction over her because she no longer lives in the state

If she did something in that state related to the case, then they have jurisdiction over the incest twit. If I live in California, but do something for which I can get sued in New Jersey, New Jersey absolutely has the right to subpoena me to testify.

Only the dumbest and most desperate lawyer(s) would ever consider trying that rubbish.

[rurallib]

27. Just a general comment - I am so sick and tired of the Trump family

using the court system as their little game and delaying and denying justice to those who in any way have been harmed by them.

Gaddammit, these people must be found guilty and be made to pay for their crimes. If they get away with their crimes the damage to our system of justice will be vast and permanent. They will have shown the country that our system is not set up for justice, but for those who have money.

[ificandream]

33. You aren't alone.

[live love laugh]

30. She could appeal based on wife status.

[Novara]

32. Oh, pass the popcorn!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

35. There is no parent child privilege

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