Detained Gaza terrorist says Hamas hid as hospital staff in Al Shifa

[DavidDvorkin]

Source: ynet

Army releases interrogation footage of terrorists held in Israel, offering more insight into Hamas' tactics of embedding terrorists within civilian populations and locations

Read more: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bybdsbtnt

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Scoffing and skepticism coming in 3, 2, 1 ...

[sarisataka]

1. Hmm,

[republianmushroom]

13. Like it.

[TheRickles]

2. OK, I'll bite. Here's a 10' video from a leading columnist at The Guardian (UK)

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[SunSeeker]

6. Owen Jones is not a reporter for The Guardian. He is a political activist.

Owen Jones writes a political opinion column for The Guardian. He is not a news reporter but a political commentator and left-wing activist. He has no journalism training. He studied history in college.

I actually watched that wretched video. That is 10 minutes of my life I will never get back. But it is an excellent example of propaganda.

[TheRickles]

7. I stand corrected - he is indeed a columnist and not a reporter. However, a respected paper like the Guardian

sees fit to carry his work. So is it propaganda, or a critical look at some widely-circulated stories? I was convinced by his analysis of the Hamas personnel roster that turned out to be a calendar, and by the nurse whose pristine uniform seemed to indicate she had not just finished a long shift at the Gaza hospital under siege but was an actor. I also found several other of his examples to be convincing, so I'm curious: on what basis did you dismiss these as propaganda?

[SunSeeker]

14. The Guardian did not carry that Owens video.

And the Guardian is not endorsing an opinion just because it carries an opinion column.

There have been plenty of confirmations by actual reporters that there are Hamad tunnels under Gaza hospitals, and nobody has disputed the recent video footage of Hamas hostages being taken into Gaza hospitals. That video by Owens does nothing to dispute that, and is crazy over the top, saying Israel is internationally murdering civilians. It is Hamas who intentionally murdered 1400 Israeli civilians. The dead civilians in Gaza are the victims of being used as human shields by Hamas.

[oldsoftie]

17. The title alone tells me its probably bullshit.

Actually WATCHNG it confirms that.

[TheRickles]

18. What did you make of the segment about the Hamas roster that was actually a calendar, or the nurse

whose uniform was spotless despite working in a combat-zone hospital? The IDF isn't above misinformation/propaganda either.

[Chainfire]

3. And he made that claim while he still had two fingernails left.

[Sal_NV]

4. Here's a video of 3 of the interrogations,

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bybdsbtnt

Now, I watched all 3, which you apparently did not, and I didn't see any torture, nor any missing fingernails, nor did any of the 3 terrorists seem to be in any undue distress.
So how about watching the video and then tell me where I missed the missing fingernails.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

5. My first thought, too.

[oldsoftie]

16. Ahh, default to Israelis torturing them, huh? Because THATS the "norm"?

No, its NOT.

[Tom Rinaldo]

8. Israel is in a position to assess the veracity of this claim, I am not...

They know the conditions under which those prisoners were interrogated, they know what if any pressure was put on them etc. Interrogations often result in important information being gained. Sometimes they result in false confessions etc. instead. A lot depends of whether those doing the interrogations are more interested in finding out accurate information or in developing useful propaganda for their own use.

If they want accurate useful information that dictates how interrogations proceed. Israel is either being honest about what they are learning, or they are not, but much valid intelligence comes from detained prisoners.

Whether or not you are inclined to believe what Israel reports in this instance, I will simply say that from what I can know about Hamas, it seems credible to me.

[Sal_NV]

10. Years ago, I met a former KGB interrogator who told me that his method

was to get the subject relaxed, give them something to eat and drink, smokes it they smoked and he would question them in a friendly tone, he said that he got more useful and accurate intelligence with his methods than his other colleagues who would resort to physical abuse and violence which would lead to false confessions more times than naught.

From looking at the 3 videos that Israel posted of the interrogations, it seems they are following this former KGB's methods.

[oldsoftie]

9. Would this surprise anyone? No. They've done this for YEARS. Its how they live.

They dont stand in front of civilians to protect them, they stand behind them to USE them.
Animals.

[obamanut2012]

12. They are not animals

[oldsoftie]

15. I guess thats true; animals actually protect their young.

Hamas uses them for media publicity.
Its a shame that its up to Israel to save the Palestinians from what is supposed to be their "governing authority".
You'd think some of the Arab nations would step up & offer to help. Some of the richest countries in the world. You'd think that, but no

[dalton99a]

11. And the hospital management knew nothing about it