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blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2024, 07:00 PM Feb 16

Ukraine Withdraws From Position South of Embattled Avdiivka as Kremlin Infantry Advances

Source: Kyiv Post

Ukraine on Friday said it was pulling back from a position on the southern outskirts of the city of Avdiivka, where heavy battles were raging with Russian forces.

"After many months of confrontation, the command decided to withdraw from the Zenit position on the southeastern outskirts of Avdiivka... The decision was made to save personnel and improve the operational situation," Oleksandr Tarnavsky, a Ukrainian general in the east, said on social media.

Russian troops captured a key fortress in the battleground city Avdiivka on Thursday, forcing Ukrainian troops to fall back hundreds of meters through a gauntlet of artillery and mortar fire.

Infantrymen reportedly from 1st Army Corps had by early evening cleared the Cheburashka Zenit defense complex of all resistance, ending weeks of bloody assaults against a Ukrainian bastion of trenches and fortifications on the south-western outskirts of the city.

Read more: https://www.kyivpost.com/post/28161



The russiapublicans are betraying our allies and are to blame for this. As the article states further in, the Ukrainians have an artillery shortage due to lack of U.S.. funding.
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Ukraine Withdraws From Position South of Embattled Avdiivka as Kremlin Infantry Advances (Original Post) blue-wave Feb 16 OP
Thanks GOP House. Cash your rubles quickly.... Evolve Dammit Feb 16 #1
Take a bow pro-Putin republican mother-------s. Fucker Carlson, speaker Rogers, Lindsey, fuck you too. Comfortably_Numb Feb 16 #2
Yup, K & R +1000 blue-wave Feb 17 #8
The elite squad was sent in............................. Lovie777 Feb 16 #3
Our President and his blue-wave Feb 17 #7
Heartless gqp and that's being kind PortTack Feb 16 #4
Republicans have Ukrainian blood on their hands. SunSeeker Feb 16 #5
I hope orangecrush Feb 16 #6
Unfortunately, it isn't just weaponry that is the issue tornado34jh Feb 17 #9
Is that accurate? maxsolomon Feb 19 #14
I'm talking about before 2014, before Russia led the separatists in the Donets basin tornado34jh Feb 19 #15
If the U.S. would just let Ukraine borrow a loaded B-52 to fly over and carpet bomb the areas, I think it would LiberalArkie Feb 17 #10
B-52's orangecrush Feb 17 #11
And the rubble would be a lot easier for Ukraine to turn into pavement etc LiberalArkie Feb 19 #13
Hopefully a trap is being set. LiberalFighter Feb 17 #12

blue-wave

(4,356 posts)
7. Our President and his
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 01:07 AM
Feb 17

Administration also have been predicting the fall of Avdiivka:.

Ukraine war latest: White House says Avdiivka may fall to Russia as Ukraine runs out of shells

https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-war-latest-february-15/

tornado34jh

(922 posts)
9. Unfortunately, it isn't just weaponry that is the issue
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 12:24 PM
Feb 17

A lot of the generals still use old Soviet tactics. Until this war, Ukraine didn't really modernize their forces due to extensive corruption there.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
14. Is that accurate?
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 12:29 PM
Feb 19

I'd read (2 years ago) that Ukraine military had been training with the US and NATO troops prior to the war, and that was a key factor in repelling the initial Russian assault.

tornado34jh

(922 posts)
15. I'm talking about before 2014, before Russia led the separatists in the Donets basin
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 06:27 PM
Feb 19

Ukraine's military at that time wasn't really modernized. But I have seen some videos from people who are in Ukraine that even still, there are still generals that still use Soviet tactics. Until 2014, it wasn't really modernized and many generals used and still used what they had known in Soviet times. Yes, it is getting better, but again, the change still will take a while. Zaluzhny himself said that the military strategy has to change.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
10. If the U.S. would just let Ukraine borrow a loaded B-52 to fly over and carpet bomb the areas, I think it would
Sat Feb 17, 2024, 01:49 PM
Feb 17

end it and save some lives.

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