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Kennah

(14,273 posts)
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 06:52 PM Mar 11

Hungarian leader says Trump will end the war in Ukraine by not giving 'a penny'

Source: CNN

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has said Donald Trump would effectively end the war in Ukraine by cutting off funding to Kyiv, should the former US president return to power in November.

“He (Trump) has a very clear vision,” Orbán said in an interview to Hungarian broadcaster M1 broadcast on Sunday. “He says the following: first, he will not give a single penny for the Russo-Ukrainian war. That’s why the war will end, because it’s obvious that Ukraine cannot stand on its own two feet.”

Orbán’s comments came after Trump hosted the Hungarian strongman at Mar-a-Lago on Friday. The former president and a small group of close advisers met with Orbán at the Florida resort for roughly an hour Friday night, sources familiar with the matter told CNN, with one of the sources describing it as a “social meeting” with no agenda. A separate source called it “friendly.”

Orbán has been a longstanding opponent to European Union and NATO efforts to assist Ukraine since Russia’s full-scale invasion two years ago. Hungary has consistently bogged down Western aid negotiations, though it did recently sign off on a 50 billion euro aid package for Kyiv and approve Sweden’s accession to NATO after holding out for months.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/11/europe/orban-trump-ukraine-intl/index.html



Et tu, Viktor?
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Hungarian leader says Trump will end the war in Ukraine by not giving 'a penny' (Original Post) Kennah Mar 11 OP
Really? Advice from Orban. Thanks CNN. bullimiami Mar 11 #1
Trump is filthy, and yes I know the Germans used that word to describe Jewish folk as a way of Eliot Rosewater Mar 11 #2
He is part of a religion NanaCat Mar 13 #26
I think he is absolutely correct in that assessment prodigitalson Mar 11 #3
How do the Republicans allow a civilian negotiate with a head of state over policy? Walleye Mar 11 #4
This is what I've been hollering about for a LONG time! slightlv Mar 11 #11
I'd give odds that he's been on the phone leaning on Netanyahu Walleye Mar 11 #14
A) Fuck Orban; B) Fuck tRump; C) May they both rot in the hell of their own fantasies Blue Owl Mar 11 #5
Might this exposure by Orban hurt Trump with the American people writ large? Kennah Mar 11 #6
To a normal person, yes... But these freakin' MAGAts have brain rot or something Blue Owl Mar 11 #9
I bet he's invited Putin to Mar-a-Lago Walleye Mar 11 #15
Fantasies is exactly right...see post #7 PortTack Mar 11 #8
Ask orban why then his country is struggling in poverty without aid from the EU? Standing on your own two PortTack Mar 11 #7
Short memory Viktor . . . . no_hypocrisy Mar 11 #10
apparently he remembers this well, he just wants to be Janos Kadar lapfog_1 Mar 11 #13
easy solution - at least on paper lapfog_1 Mar 11 #12
The building of a new "Axis". BumRushDaShow Mar 11 #16
I bet they tapped swords at the urinals when done. Hotler Mar 11 #17
FU Orban you huge POS SouthernDem4ever Mar 11 #18
This is no surprise. Putin is betting the farm on trump getting re-installed. PSPS Mar 12 #19
Putin betting the farm on Trump Lie-Detector-General Mar 12 #20
Republican National Committee takeover Lie-Detector-General Mar 12 #21
Legal Ballot Harvesting, says Lara Trump Lie-Detector-General Mar 12 #22
Lara Trump's part of the hereditary dictatorship Lie-Detector-General Mar 12 #23
Time for Russian tool to go away orangecrush Mar 13 #24
And when Russia starts to take your land, Viktor, then what? sakabatou Mar 13 #25

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
2. Trump is filthy, and yes I know the Germans used that word to describe Jewish folk as a way of
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 06:58 PM
Mar 11

making them less than human.

Trump is not part of a group or religion, he is a piece of shit and I will call him that daily.

Over 50 million Americans, maybe 70 now believe it is JOE who won't debate or take questions from reporters, as Lindsey Graham just said. And that the world is on fire because of Joe, not trump or putin.

MCCAIN'S former best friend said this, I submit that graham and several other cons would NOT support him if John was alive and if they did he would take them out back of the Senate and punch them in the face. For real.

NanaCat

(1,153 posts)
26. He is part of a religion
Wed Mar 13, 2024, 04:27 AM
Mar 13

It's called Christianity.

No matter how much some in the religion might wish it otherwise, that doesn't change how it's a fact.

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
4. How do the Republicans allow a civilian negotiate with a head of state over policy?
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 07:11 PM
Mar 11

Isn’t that what General Flynn tried to do when he jumped the gun talking to Russia? But from that we found out there are no consequences

slightlv

(2,818 posts)
11. This is what I've been hollering about for a LONG time!
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 07:38 PM
Mar 11

*rump acts as though he's a president in exile... still ruling the country. That undercuts Biden at every turn. We never used to allow any civilian... no matter who they were... to do anything like this. What the frack happened? Why is he allowed to get away with this? Where is our much-vaunted Homeland Security department? Are they ALL at the border? Talk about a diversion! While *rump gives away the country and the world. Worthless piece of crap needs to be taken out back and shot (in the colloquial). Instead of giving him dumbed down security briefings, he needs to be jailed for being a traitor as soon as he walks into one of the first meetings! I just don't understand it. The only way I can get my head around it is one hell of a conspiracy, even for me... and that is... while *rump was in office, he filled every department inside the government with his lackeys. Drilled them so deep into even the lowest of positions as to seem unimportant, until they started giving away information they had read or overheard. It's been one of my biggest heartburns with the current administration. In the effort to seem (and be) fair, once again the democrats have given the benefit of doubt and not done enough to root out and fire all those who were hired during the previous administration. At the start of Biden's next term, this -has- to be of the highest priority; if not, I fear for our country, no matter how near or far *rump is from the oval office!

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
14. I'd give odds that he's been on the phone leaning on Netanyahu
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 07:56 PM
Mar 11

Or maybe he’s letting Jared take care of that. I bet they are cooking up a conspiracy to make Biden look bad

Blue Owl

(50,394 posts)
9. To a normal person, yes... But these freakin' MAGAts have brain rot or something
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 07:29 PM
Mar 11

Whatever Donny does is OK by his red-hatted bobbleheads

Walleye

(31,028 posts)
15. I bet he's invited Putin to Mar-a-Lago
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 07:58 PM
Mar 11

Does the state department have to sign off on a head of state visiting our country?

PortTack

(32,773 posts)
7. Ask orban why then his country is struggling in poverty without aid from the EU? Standing on your own two
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 07:20 PM
Mar 11

Feet? Sure

Several million dollars of aid to Hungary from EU are being held up due directly to orban’s undemocratic laws and policies, and his out right thievery.

These two only have words…lies for each other. Neither is a successful “strongman.”

He signed off on the EU aid to Ukraine only because the EU said you either sign this or aide to your country is not coming. As far as signing off on NATO, his lies are even bigger. He knows if he drops out of NATO, Hungary will become a putin puppet nation and he will be the one being told what to do with exactly zero power.

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
10. Short memory Viktor . . . .
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 07:33 PM
Mar 11

I remember when Hungary wasn't an independent, sovereign nation because the USSR pulled it behind the Iron Curtain.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
13. apparently he remembers this well, he just wants to be Janos Kadar
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 07:46 PM
Mar 11

or especially Nicolae Ceaușescu. Hopefully he comes to the same end as Ceaușescu.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
12. easy solution - at least on paper
Mon Mar 11, 2024, 07:40 PM
Mar 11

Kick Hungary out of NATO and out of the EU. Then impose sanctions on Hungary. Finally close all the borders between the EU and Hungary. Need to teach Italy and Portugal a lesson by example. "You all want far right nationalism... this is what happens if you go that way".

PSPS

(13,600 posts)
19. This is no surprise. Putin is betting the farm on trump getting re-installed.
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 12:40 AM
Mar 12

Cut off all funds for ukraine and, while he's at it, withdraw from NATO (essentially abolishing it.) Then putin can freely re-assemble the USSR the way he likes it. Trump already promised him that.

Patton was right. After Germany, we should have just kept going to Moscow.

20. Putin betting the farm on Trump
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 01:20 AM
Mar 12

No doubt that Putin will be doing more than just betting the farm. I suspect he will help
Donny with his legal woes and campaign funding.
But wait those are the same thing. Actually, do you think Trump or his grifting family would turn down anyone’s donations for that matter? In fact OB probably hand delivered a goodwill donation from Putin during this recent visit. Along with the
Authoritarian 101 handbook. No wait, Trump already has that one on his night stand.

21. Republican National Committee takeover
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 01:34 AM
Mar 12

Yes Sir, this is just a reshaping of the funnel.
International donations funnel that is.
Just another mobster store front to launder the
favorable donations. So obvious Donny boy.

22. Legal Ballot Harvesting, says Lara Trump
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 01:55 AM
Mar 12

When you have to preface your new schtick with
“Legal” you’re not fooling anyone.

What’s next,
Legal sexual assault?
Legal secret documents possession?
Legal non-stop of the steal of the election?
Legal pay off to change the Stormy weather?

Wait you are fooling millions of MAGAs.

23. Lara Trump's part of the hereditary dictatorship
Tue Mar 12, 2024, 02:18 AM
Mar 12

That’s legal speak for the mob family shares the spoils. Similar to North Korea’s Brother-Sister team.

Donnie’s team is just bigly bigger, and everybody knows that.

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