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Kennah

(14,403 posts)
Tue May 7, 2024, 01:09 AM May 7

Hamas's Offer to Hand Over 33 Hostages Includes Some Who Are Dead

Source: NY Times

Hamas informed negotiators on Monday that not all of the 33 hostages who would be freed in the first phase of a possible cease-fire deal with Israel are still living and that the remains of those who have died would be among the initial releases, according to two people familiar with the talks.

The disclosure came as part of Hamas’s counteroffer to Israel’s latest proposal, which envisions a first-phase, six-week cease-fire in exchange for the return of some of the hostages taken during the Oct. 7 terrorist attacks. It was not clear whether Hamas revealed how many of the 33 are still alive and how many are dead.

The first group of hostages meant to be freed in the initial phase of the proposed agreement is supposed to include women, older men and the sick and wounded who are among the more than 100 believed still to be held captive. The Israelis initially wanted 40 to be released in the first phase but came to understand that Hamas did not hold that many who fit the criteria. Israeli and American officials have long assumed that some of the hostages may be dead.

The news that the first group of hostages to be released would include the remains of some taken seven months ago will surely upset families who have been pressing the Israeli government to do more to free their loved ones. The fate of the hostages has become a major issue with the Israeli public as thousands of demonstrators have poured into the streets to pressure Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government to make a deal. Protesters blocked major roads in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv late Monday after Hamas’s counteroffer.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/07/us/politics/israel-hamas-hostages-dead.html



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LeftInTX

(25,983 posts)
2. That's when the last deal fell apart.
Tue May 7, 2024, 01:39 AM
May 7

Shiri Bibis and her two son's were part of the last deal and suddenly Hamas stopped delivering hostages. Hamas stated, "We can provide hostage bodies". Israel told Hamas that they had broken the deal and Israel did not release more prisoners. The next morning, Hamas started firing on Israel again.

LeftInTX

(25,983 posts)
5. The deal in November for was kids. Everyone but the Bibas kids were returned.
Tue May 7, 2024, 02:05 AM
May 7

Hamas then stated they and their mother were dead.
Footage then emerged of the father, but adult males were not part of the hostage release.

I don't think adult males are part of the current deal either.

AnrothElf

(780 posts)
3. Another illustration of why Hamas can't be trusted.
Tue May 7, 2024, 01:47 AM
May 7

Israel has tried, repeatedly, to negotiate ceasefires under pressure from the Biden admin. Hamas always refuses. There was finally a brief ceasefire, and Hamas broke it.

"But Israel..."

Hamas cannot be trusted. They need to surrender, or be wiped out.

Oopsie Daisy

(2,970 posts)
8. Wiped out (they won't surrender).
Tue May 7, 2024, 06:07 AM
May 7

As they continue to cower and hide among civilians, they are making them legitimate targets too. The civilian deaths are because Hamas uses them as human shields... a war crime.

Hamas must be destroyed.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,884 posts)
9. Mighty nice of them. How about handing over the murderers too?
Tue May 7, 2024, 07:31 AM
May 7

I'm sure the pro-Hamas protestors that chant "From the river to the sea" will blame Israel for their deaths, or will celebrate their deaths, and the sympathizers of these pro-Hamas protestors will give cover.

Remember, Israel is the most evil place in the world.

Mysterian

(4,618 posts)
10. Murderous Hamas terrorist scum must be eliminated wherever they hide
Tue May 7, 2024, 07:51 AM
May 7

Just like ISIS and all terror groups around the globe.

Beastly Boy

(9,658 posts)
11. So the rapists and the murderers now peddle corpses.
Tue May 7, 2024, 07:56 AM
May 7

From despicable to nauseating.

Yet, "resistance" on college campuses. Have they all gone mad???

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Wonder Why

(3,461 posts)
13. I kidnapped your child and want $100K to get him back even though he died in the kidnapping. Yeah! Right!
Tue May 7, 2024, 09:56 AM
May 7

tonekat

(1,842 posts)
15. I have a feeling
Tue May 7, 2024, 12:03 PM
May 7

That when Israel sees what poor health the remaining hostages are in, they'll wipe Palestine off the face of the earth in response.

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