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riversedge

(71,400 posts)
Sun May 19, 2024, 06:43 PM May 19

U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson won't pledge to accept result of 2024 presidential election

Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel




Molly Beck May 19, 2024MADISON – U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson is not pledging to accept the result of the November presidential election, leaving a door open to objecting to the certification of election results — a scenario that prompted an attack on the U.S. Capitol four years ago when former President Donald Trump lost reelection.

Johnson told The Cap Times on Saturday he could not answer whether he would accept the results of the 2024 presidential election, calling it an "impossible hypothetical."

“We have to see exactly what happens," Johnson said in an interview at the state Republican Party convention in Appleton. "If there are all kinds of abuses, we might have to start questioning those abuses, might have to investigate them. I certainly want to (accept the results).”

A spokeswoman for Johnson did not immediately answer questions early Sunday about what kind of events could push Johnson to seek an investigation.


Johnson also hedged on accepting the results of the 2020 election four years ago amid heavy pressure leveled by Trump on Republicans to avenge his election loss despite a lack of evidence to support doing so.....................








Read more: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/19/ron-johnson-wont-pledge-to-accept-result-of-presidential-election/73759675007/



Johnson is nothing but a vile little so-called human.










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U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson won't pledge to accept result of 2024 presidential election (Original Post) riversedge May 19 OP
The GOP rejects American values like the peaceful transfer of power sanatanadharma May 19 #1
Also 2021 was an exception. perfessor May 19 #3
In other news ilovegamers43 May 19 #2
I happen to agree with him. perfessor May 19 #4
Why does the media even ask. 33taw May 19 #5
Need any more proof what their plan is? bluestarone May 19 #6
Their "pledges" and "promises" don't mean anything anyways JoseBalow May 19 #7
I was worried about certifying the 2020 election mountain grammy May 19 #8
Who really gives a shit what Ron Johnson accepts or doesn't accept? hadEnuf May 19 #9
Does Johnson and Trump maggots think LiberalFighter May 19 #10
Ron, if you're expecting a repeat of Jan 6, remember who's in the White House... paleotn May 19 #11
This time The Protectors WILL NOT withhold deadly force. Traurigkeit May 19 #15
Go Back To Moscow Then... GB_RN May 19 #12
Johnson's another Putin puppet. oasis May 20 #24
Yup. GB_RN May 20 #25
I don't give a good goddamn what you accept, Ron. LudwigPastorius May 19 #13
So each if these Republican scumbags LIED when they took their OATH Of Office Traurigkeit May 19 #14
Your bigotry against people who aren't Christian NanaCat May 20 #32
hahahahah interesting writing Traurigkeit May 20 #35
i won't accept anything less than a complete Democratic victory at all levels of government samsingh May 20 #16
Are WE ready to pledge to accept the results if we think there are issues? SomewhereInTheMiddle May 20 #17
Issues? Aussie105 May 20 #18
And not one Republican that was voted in contested their own win Traurigkeit May 20 #36
what issues were there in the 2020 election that has the republicans refusing to accept the results? samsingh May 20 #23
If the USSC is involved EndlessWire May 20 #30
And Johnson explained HOW trump LOST in '20 on video oldsoftie May 20 #19
Anyone who spouts The Wizard May 20 #20
Nice if you can get someone else to do your thinking for you. Aussie105 May 20 #21
Johnson has a reputation for parroting Putin propaganda NanaCat May 20 #33
Demonstrating complete disdain and contempt for the voice of We The People Zilli May 20 #22
And water is wet.............................. Lovie777 May 20 #26
what... myohmy2 May 20 #27
New rule: if an elected representative refuses to accept a vote, that is his resignation. malthaussen May 20 #28
You actually went farther than I did on my thoughts... slightlv May 20 #29
Agreed. NanaCat May 20 #34
Ron John is an idiot Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 20 #31
Then he is an enemy of our government. Traitor Emile May 21 #37

sanatanadharma

(3,865 posts)
1. The GOP rejects American values like the peaceful transfer of power
Sun May 19, 2024, 06:51 PM
May 19

The GOP rejects American values like the peaceful transfer of power,
The peaceful transfer of power has been a shining feature in American Democracy for our entire history (Civil War exception).
The GOP is tearing down the city bricks and throwing them off the hill.

perfessor

(278 posts)
4. I happen to agree with him.
Sun May 19, 2024, 07:01 PM
May 19

We should also not pledge to roll over like we did in 2000. It is, to quote a phrase, an impossible hypothetical.

JoseBalow

(3,583 posts)
7. Their "pledges" and "promises" don't mean anything anyways
Sun May 19, 2024, 07:22 PM
May 19

by refusing to do so, they are sending a clear message to others on how they should position themselves for coup part deux.

mountain grammy

(26,907 posts)
8. I was worried about certifying the 2020 election
Sun May 19, 2024, 07:42 PM
May 19

but they were new to it and chickened out. They won't next january. I'll be ready to join the protests.

Damn, I hope he's somehow out of the picture by November.

LiberalFighter

(52,681 posts)
10. Does Johnson and Trump maggots think
Sun May 19, 2024, 08:15 PM
May 19

Federal law enforcement won't be ready this time?

Snipers nearby. Metal barriers that are set up to shock anyone touching them.

Bank type due paks thrown into the crowd to mark them to help round them up.

Drop water bags on them.

Consider anyone with their face covered an enemy.

paleotn

(18,470 posts)
11. Ron, if you're expecting a repeat of Jan 6, remember who's in the White House...
Sun May 19, 2024, 08:50 PM
May 19

when the electoral college votes are counted. I doubt seriously that any of the yahoos will get anywhere near the Capital.

Traurigkeit

(1,214 posts)
15. This time The Protectors WILL NOT withhold deadly force.
Sun May 19, 2024, 11:33 PM
May 19

The possible insurrectionists will be going home in body bags.

GB_RN

(2,643 posts)
12. Go Back To Moscow Then...
Sun May 19, 2024, 09:28 PM
May 19

“Red Square Ron”.

If you can’t accept the results of free elections - meaning ones that don’t go your way - then go live where your outcome is guaranteed, and you already love the leader. Fuckstick.

oasis

(50,552 posts)
24. Johnson's another Putin puppet.
Mon May 20, 2024, 10:11 AM
May 20

He'll be brought to account sooner or later.
I want a front row seat at his day of reckoning.

GB_RN

(2,643 posts)
25. Yup.
Mon May 20, 2024, 10:36 AM
May 20

He’s one of those asshats who went to Moscow and had lunch with Putin on July 4th.

Fuck him. Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

Traurigkeit

(1,214 posts)
14. So each if these Republican scumbags LIED when they took their OATH Of Office
Sun May 19, 2024, 11:31 PM
May 19
SENATE AND HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OATH OF OFFICE


“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States
against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;
that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion;
and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter:

So help me God.”


Every "christian" Republican is a fake.

May God strike them down into their personal hells, as they, the Republicans, want that result
 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
32. Your bigotry against people who aren't Christian
Mon May 20, 2024, 06:32 PM
May 20

Is noted.

Just because they're awful people doesn't mean they aren't Christians. Just because you automatically think that Christians can't be bad people, and thus the only bad people are those who aren't Christian (the bloody logical extension of foisting off your bad actors on people who aren't Christians) doesn't mean your outrageous assertion is true.

Why do so many Christians compulsively lie that immoral or awful people are 'fake' Christians, when they most certainly are? Who died and made you the ultimate judge of who is or isn't a Christian, anyway? From what I understand of the cult, that's not for any one person to decide, but entirely the call of the cult's deities.

Instead of lying that an immoral Christian is a 'fake' one, when they undoubtedly are 100% Christian, try something that's actually you know, MORAL. Like owning how they're awful Christians, rather than blaming others for their terrible behaviour.

Take responsibility for the failures in your own religion to improve the person. It's not our job to clean up your religion's immoral people. It's yours.

Traurigkeit

(1,214 posts)
35. hahahahah interesting writing
Mon May 20, 2024, 07:20 PM
May 20

Signed

Roman Catholic
retired
Goes by the actions of goodworks to the stranger/the other

Keep the faith

17. Are WE ready to pledge to accept the results if we think there are issues?
Mon May 20, 2024, 03:51 AM
May 20

Looking back at 2000 and 2016, we were not ready to quietly accept results we believed were problematic. We worked in the courts and the streets to rectify what we felt were injustices.

Could you possibly pledge not to do the same if the 2024 election seems to be lost due to voter suppression, illegal tampering, and outright fraud.

Few of us - Dem or GOP - fully trust the system anymore. It is a sad state of affairs and one that I hope can be overcome in time - preferably through reforms that build trust rather than this being the last election that we ever hold so there is nothing to trust in the future.

I agree with those that question the value of asking this of any politician. Can any of them answer in a way that will satisfy everyone?

Aussie105

(5,786 posts)
18. Issues?
Mon May 20, 2024, 05:28 AM
May 20

Republicans thought the last election wasn't legit and brought up many reasons why it wasn't.

All have been examined and all have been found not applicable.

The voting system is complex but rigorous, and not amenable to manipulation.

There are 'spoilers' in the system though, like gerrymandering and the Electoral College - they need addressing.

But it's disingenuous of you to suggest the system can be manipulated easily in other ways.

People who lose faith in the value of their vote will not bother to vote. Is that what you want?

The Wizard

(12,660 posts)
20. Anyone who spouts
Mon May 20, 2024, 07:32 AM
May 20

Russian propaganda is an enemy. Johnson has been spreading Putin's talking points for years.

Aussie105

(5,786 posts)
21. Nice if you can get someone else to do your thinking for you.
Mon May 20, 2024, 08:25 AM
May 20

But why Putin specifically, I have to ask?

Why not someone like, oh I don't know, maybe Mother Theresa? Or Gandhi?

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
33. Johnson has a reputation for parroting Putin propaganda
Mon May 20, 2024, 06:43 PM
May 20
But of particular interest was Parnas’ comments about Team Trump’s congressional allies who helped spread anti-Biden misinformation.

The witness specifically told lawmakers, for example, that there were people “doing the bidding for the Russians — people in Congress, like Sen. Ron Johnson.” Referring to his disinformation efforts with Giuliani, Parnas added, “Ron Johnson was our guy in the Senate.”

{snip}

I can appreciate why the GOP senator is a bit sensitive about such accusations. It was, after all, just last month when the public learned that Alexander Smirnov — the witness at the heart of the Republican Party’s impeachment crusade against President Biden — was arrested for lying to the FBI about the Bidens and allegedly received information from foreign intelligence officials, including lies from Russia.

Ron Johnson wasted little time in declaring that Smirnov is “innocent until proven guilty,” and suggested that the Justice Department’s investigation might be “corrupt.”

A couple of weeks earlier, Johnson denounced U.S. aid to Ukraine, criticized U.S. sanctions against Russia, and expressed agreement with Vladimir Putin’s recent rhetoric.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/former-giuliani-associate-ron-johnson-was-guy-senate-rcna144412

Are those enough data points to convince you that Putin does Johnson's 'thinking' for him?

Zilli

(223 posts)
22. Demonstrating complete disdain and contempt for the voice of We The People
Mon May 20, 2024, 09:37 AM
May 20

Of Course! Rethug politicians will come together and illustrate their unity and complicity in lies, corruption, hate and support of fascism. I expect many more of these traitors to refuse the election results. This is quite a spectacular and devastating betrayal of our country.

myohmy2

(3,435 posts)
27. what...
Mon May 20, 2024, 10:41 AM
May 20

...an unAmerican prick...

...how does scum like this makes it's way to levers of power...?

...is our democracy a thing of the past...?

...

malthaussen

(17,420 posts)
28. New rule: if an elected representative refuses to accept a vote, that is his resignation.
Mon May 20, 2024, 10:47 AM
May 20

Seat vacated, new election ASAP. We need to put a stop to this bullshit. Elections are like science to these creatures: matters of "opinion," not matters of fact.

-- Mal

slightlv

(3,413 posts)
29. You actually went farther than I did on my thoughts...
Mon May 20, 2024, 03:31 PM
May 20

mine were that the Rep had just disqualified himself from any future election for public office. I like your thoughts better, tho... immediate karma coming down. The minute they open their mouth, they're kicked out. If they manage to keep it shut til the election, then, if they win their election they won't be seated. If they don't win, and continue on with the "I'm not going to accept"... kick them out of the running. The next higher vote getter is the winner.

I'm tired of this bullcrap. Each every one of these people has violated their oaths of office by trumpeting from the highest hills they'll not accept the voter's decision. Bully on them! It's time "we the people" take back our voting rights and make sure that elections have consequences for the minority. Quite frankly, when Democrats win, we are *still* ruled by the minority party. Enough! Clean out the corruption!

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
34. Agreed.
Mon May 20, 2024, 06:46 PM
May 20

I mean, if the election was indeed tainted, then those who supposedly won didn't win, after all. So if they want to claim the vote was rigged, then they have to admit that the vote putting them in office was rigged, so, by their own logic, they need to step down until a 'real' election can happen.

Live by the sword. Die by the sword.

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