ICC prosecutor seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu for war crimes over October 7 attack and Gaza
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Source: CNN World
Updated 11:25 AM EDT, Mon May 20, 2024
CNN The International Criminal Court is seeking arrest warrants for Hamas leader in Gaza Yahya Sinwar and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity over the October 7 attacks on Israel and the subsequent war in Gaza, the courts prosecutor Karim Khan told CNNs Christiane Amanpour in an exclusive interview on Monday.
Khan said the ICCs prosecution team is also seeking warrants for Israels Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, as well as two other top Hamas leaders Mohammed Diab Ibrahim al-Masri, the leader of the Al Qassem Brigades who is better known as Mohammed Deif, and Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas political leader.
The warrants against the Israeli politicians mark the first time the ICC has targeted the top leader of a close ally of the United States. The decision puts Netanyahu in the company of the Russian President Vladimir Putin, for whom the ICC issued an arrest warrant over Moscows war on Ukraine, and the Libyan strongman Moammar Gadhafi, who was facing an arrest warrant from the ICC for alleged crimes against humanity at the time of his capture and killing in October 2011.
By applying for the arrest warrants against Israeli and Hamas leaders in the same action, Khans office risks attracting criticism that it places a terror organization and an elected government on an equivalent footing.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/20/middleeast/icc-israel-hamas-arrest-warrant-war-crimes-intl/index.html
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Full new headline: EXCLUSIVE: ICC prosecutor seeks arrest warrants against Sinwar and Netanyahu for war crimes over October 7 attack and Gaza
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Published 6:41 AM EDT, Mon May 20, 2024
CNN The International Criminal Court is seeking arrest warrants for Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity over the October 7 attacks on Israel and the subsequent war in Gaza, the courts chief prosecutor Karim Khan told CNNs Christiane Amanpour in an exclusive interview on Monday.
Khan said the ICC is also seeking warrants for Israels Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, as well as two other top Hamas leaders Mohammed Diab Ibrahim al-Masri, the leader of the Al Qassem Brigades and better known as Mohammed Deif, and Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas political leader.
The warrants against the Israeli politicians mark the first time the ICC has targeted the top leader of a close ally of the United States. The decision puts Netanyahu in the company of the Russian President Vladimir Putin, for who the ICC issued an arrest warrant over Moscows war on Ukraine.
A panel of ICC judges will now consider Khans application for the arrest warrants. Khan said the charges against Sinwar, Haniyeh and al-Masri include extermination, murder, taking of hostages, rape and sexual assault in detention.
Lonestarblue
(10,503 posts)Voltaire2
(13,689 posts)He is the legitimately elected prime minister of a democratic republic.
Lonestarblue
(10,503 posts)Voltaire2
(13,689 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,920 posts)The entire world saw the Russian election as a scam.
Israel's elections were not a scam.
Putin was not legitimately elected. Bibi's party won a plurality then formed a government with allied or semi-allied parties under a parliamentary, coalition government style.
Following your logic, Xi Jinping was legitimately elected because he was voted in 2067-0 at the Great Hall of the People by the "representatives of the people." That's a dictator. Putin's "election" was manipulated, just like the Saar plebiscite in 1936. Hamas was legitimately elected, winning 72 out of the 132 seats in the Palestinian parliament and they haven't had another election since.
questionseverything
(9,702 posts)Voltaire2
(13,689 posts)of the people living in the occupied territories. That is a related issue, and as an apartheid regime the argument that its status as a democracy is dubious has validity. However that still doesnt make Netanyahu a dictator.
questionseverything
(9,702 posts)Let alone a trial
Voltaire2
(13,689 posts)Netanyahu is a dictator, which is why it appeared to me that you were supporting that claim.
questionseverything
(9,702 posts)What bibi is called, wether its murder, monster, bully or butcher doesnt matter to me
I do believe in a true democracy, everyone should have basic human rights but i dont know if any country has met that standard
dembotoz
(16,896 posts)HandmaidsTaleUntold
(327 posts)He dictated after elected.
speak easy
(9,441 posts)Going to be difficult to deny that one.
Voltaire2
(13,689 posts)Darwins_Retriever
(870 posts)just like the US. Due to this, the ICC has no jurisdiction over Israel or any of its citizens.
prodigitalson
(2,529 posts)former9thward
(32,379 posts)And Netanyahu can certainly go to the U.S. which is not a member of the ICC.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,729 posts)he can travel to any country that's not a signatory of the ICC, also, even if he travels to a member country, it's up to the country on whether or not to enforce the warrants and I would imagine that there would be guarantees in place before such travel happens
BumRushDaShow
(131,773 posts)when absent ICC warrants, several countries including France, Germany, Switzerland and even Malaysia issued or threatened to issue arrest warrants for Shrub, Darth, Rumsfeld and others for the Guantanamo Bay torture nightmare and the Iraq War.
Travel to certain locations by them ended up being cancelled and whatnot.
Voltaire2
(13,689 posts)sarisataka
(19,466 posts)But Palestine is.
LeftInTX
(26,270 posts)sarisataka
(19,466 posts)will be swept under the rug. Only one will concern people.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(109,387 posts)Ping Tung
(944 posts)and hold them for extradition for trial. The Brits arrested Pinochet and held him for about 18 months.
Here's a list of the countries that they'd be wise not vacation in.
https://asp.icc-cpi.int/states-parties
I would encourage both to ignore the warrants and take their chances. If they're innocent of the crimes they're accused of they have nothing to fear.
Right?
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,729 posts)and I would suspect that the majority would not enforce the warrants, against either HAMAs or Nuttyyahoo.
Ping Tung
(944 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,729 posts)Neither HAMAs nor Nuttyyahoo would visit a member country of the ICC without guarantees that there will be no attempt to arrest and extradite to the ICC, and I suspect that beyond a few countries, there will be no attempt to enforce these warrants.
Ping Tung
(944 posts)That's the catch. They may try to get certain countries to give guarantees before they travel to them. I believe that many of those countries will refuse to be bullied and issue the enforce the arrests.
We'll see.
sarisataka
(19,466 posts)So should be the first enforcing the warrants.
I have a hunch we won't see that happen, or that we will see many (any) calling on them to do so.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,729 posts)sarisataka
(19,466 posts)Ping Tung
(944 posts)I also imagine that they will ignore the warrants against the Hamas suspects.
I also imagine that somewhere among the other 123 ICC members there will be some who would be willing to arrest and detain both for extradition.
The Brits (to their credit) arrested and detained Pinochet for almost 2 years before they released him to go home to Chile to die.
sarisataka
(19,466 posts)Maybe some of those other 123 countries would be willing to arrest both parties, but I believe one set could travel about anywhere without fear of arrest.
IronLionZion
(45,886 posts)If any of the people under the arrest warrants set foot in the West Bank, I would hope they are arrested for extradition. IDF patrols the West Bank anyway so Mossad would have killed them already if they were there.
They have no authority over Hamas or Gaza and are unable to make arrests there.
The State of Palestine has relatively good relations with western countries. Hamas obviously does not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine#Government_and_politics
MutantAndProud
(855 posts)Cross-post question here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18964350
sarisataka
(19,466 posts)MutantAndProud
(855 posts)Leading up to 10/7? Targeting the precipitating cause for investigation/prosecution seems to be a more logical long term solution to stopping the generational fighting.
Also, historically, the UK leadership may have had similar Christian end time goals with promoting religious Zionism (vs secular/liberal/non religious Zionism) with their displacement of the Palestinians, and thus would also not be amenable to investigations. But I am not an expert on the changes in government thinking since the 1940s or what their parliamentary makeup is right now.
sarisataka
(19,466 posts)that is a non-issue regarding the warrant's applications. They are looking at October 7 to present, not what had gone before.
MutantAndProud
(855 posts)In a roundabout way it adds attention and pressure to look into that and consider an alternative domestically, wasnt clear about that like in my other post on the other thread