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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(109,369 posts)
Wed May 22, 2024, 01:10 PM May 22

Hacked data reveals which US gun sellers are behind Mexican cartel violence

Source: USA Today

Amassive leak of Mexican military intelligence has exposed for the first time in two decades U.S. gun shops and smugglers tied to 78,000 firearms recovered south of the border – and which types of guns are being trafficked.

The nuggets of information are among roughly 10 million records hacked by an anonymous collective known as “Guacamaya” and shared with news outlets by the transparency organization Distributed Denial of Secrets, or DDoSecrets. The Mexican Defense Ministry leak previously made headlines for exposing military corruption and surveillance abuse, and now reveals the trace data on American-sold firearms recovered since 2018.

Despite efforts to stem the flow, these American firearms are smuggled south as part of the cycle of Latin-American narcotics headed north. The violence in Central America fueled, in part, by guns also has contributed to the migration crisis at the U.S. border.

As part of the leak, emails relaying U.S. government data between Mexican military leaders and PowerPoint presentations by Mexico’s attorney general show which American straw buyers were tied to the most weapons as of 2022.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hacked-data-reveals-a-new-nightmare-for-us-gun-industry/ar-BB1mPMSp

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Attilatheblond

(2,496 posts)
2. In AZ, we see occasional news reports of gun smuggling busts along the route south to Nogales.
Wed May 22, 2024, 01:52 PM
May 22

The drugs and people being smuggled into the US? Well people in the US are the cause of that too. If there weren't illegal EMPLOYERS looking for cheap labor they can exploit/abuse, there wouldn't be as many 'load car' drivers (usually American teen-agers) being recruited and paid to take horrible risks and causing a lot of road accidents, injuries, deaths, to smuggle people up from the border and head north. Yes, I know there are actual refugees trying to have a better life away from violent cartels. But look further. The problem goes WAY beyond desperate people walking all those miles to get to the border. The problem is the groups making money off misery.

Politicians on the right don't want to fix anything because they need the issue to campaign on since they don't get many votes for their domestic policies.

If it wasn't for drug users here in the US, there wouldn't be a market for cartel drugs. The cartels would not have the big bucks to buy officials (on both sides of the border) nor would they have the money to buy the guns and ammo US citizens are smuggling into Mexico.

WE are the problem. Walls won't solve the problem. We have to see, accept, and fix OUR responsibility for a big share of the problems at the border.

jaxexpat

(7,050 posts)
7. Perfectly and truly stated. "WE are the problem" caused by our addiction to a lifestyle.......
Wed May 22, 2024, 03:14 PM
May 22

maintained by universal abuse of the most vulnerable of our species. The very least we could do is condemn and ban guns. They are the tools by which thousands of Mestizo communities and their helpless citizens are forced to suffer the petty vagaries of the fractious warlords in their communities. This culture is just now beginning to affect our own in a discernable way. It pronounces itself in our acceptance of a universal wariness for our homes' security. We only fool ourselves when we imagine we can win an arms race with these people by keeping a revolver in the bedside table drawer. Disarm them so that the innocent, and we, stand a chance.

HariSeldon

(465 posts)
14. Look to the reasons Americans want drugs
Wed May 22, 2024, 04:19 PM
May 22

Big pharma getting patients hooked on opiates is one reason. Hopelessness or a life of deprivation are others. So much of the wealth of this country is funnelled more and more to the already rich...and there is no benefit to society. Where is our Enjolras, with people "...singing the song of angry men?" Of course things didn't work out for him (well, he was fictional, but the cause was real and faltered), but where is the fiery spirit that can convince good Americans to put their lives on the line to return the hope of the American Dream?

wolfie001

(2,513 posts)
12. Nothing to this
Wed May 22, 2024, 03:46 PM
May 22

I just know enough to feel the need to pass on the info. I watched a Simpson's episode about 5 years ago and the gags and jokes came at me so fast, it was unwatchable. I remember the original version from the Tracy Ullman Show. Boomer!!! I could follow along back then. I think the humor pacing was much slower.

NBachers

(17,318 posts)
6. On second thought, maybe training and financing the death squads in the 70s and 80s wasn't such a good idea after all.
Wed May 22, 2024, 03:05 PM
May 22

Attilatheblond

(2,496 posts)
9. Life in Southwest cities was literally Bloody Hell during the George H. W. Bush years.
Wed May 22, 2024, 03:24 PM
May 22

Gang warfare, turf battles, shootings like you would not believe, all for making money on drugs and guns. The ol CIA boss sure knew how to wreck havoc on both sides of the border, all for profit.

DFW

(54,876 posts)
8. Lemme guess some of the stores supplying the weapons:
Wed May 22, 2024, 03:23 PM
May 22

Tommy's Tommyguns in Alabama, Cruzi's Uzis in Texas, Gaetz's Glocks in Florida, JD's AKs in Ohio and Mitchi's Machineguns in Kentucky?

Traurigkeit

(932 posts)
15. The G.O.P. politicians have been and are being paid quite quite well to INSURE these weapon manufacturers do not get
Wed May 22, 2024, 04:29 PM
May 22

taken to court and are allowed to have their made items kill as many without a worry in the world.

NEED to strip all those local, state and federal protection laws OFF the books.

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