Ohio Moving to Exclude Biden from Ballot
Source: meidasnews.com
This is heading for the courts.
Ron Filipkowski 2 hours ago
In 2010, the Ohio legislature passed a law creating an arbitrary deadline that candidates for each political party must be nominated 90 days before the election to get on the ballot. That provision has never been enforced to keep a candidate off the ballot - until now.
Both the Republican and Democratic National Conventions took place after the 90 day Ohio deadline in 2012 and 2020. Both times the legislature passed a bill to extend the deadline so there were no issues. However, 2024 is the first time that only one party has their nominating convention after the deadline, and it just happens to be the Democrats which will nominate Biden on August 22, two weeks after Ohio's arbitrary deadline.
The Republican supermajority was asked again, just like in 2012 and 2020, to extend the deadline so there will not be an issue. They have refused to do so. Now, Republican Secretary of State Frank LaRose has just send a letter to the Chair of the Ohio Democratic Party stating that he does not believe the legislature is going to grant an extension so the DNC is going to be forced to either change the date of their nominating convention to satisfy Ohio Republicans, or take them to court.
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The Biden Campaign and the DNC has been largely silent on this issue, apparently attempting to resolve this behind the scenes through negotiations. However, LaRose's letter makes it clear that the time for a settlement to this appears to be at an end with Ohio Republicans prepared to force Democrats to take them to court...........................
Read more: https://meidasnews.com/news/ohio-moving-to-exclude-biden-from-ballot
This is almost unbelievable--trying to keep the Dem nominee off the ballot.
OH Sect of St just sent a letter to the Chair of the OH Dem Party that he will exclude Biden from the OH ballot
since the DNC convention is after their arbitrary deadline.
OH extended the deadline for Repubs in 2012 & 2020, but refuses to do it now. Story.
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Turbineguy
(37,558 posts)Response to Turbineguy (Reply #1)
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Raven123
(5,085 posts)unblock
(52,872 posts)calimary
(81,988 posts)I don't trust Republicans any farther than I can throw my house.
wolfie001
(2,513 posts)Clueless and toothless old Social Security and Medicare (thank you Democratic Party!!!) recipients. Sickening.
peppertree
(22,065 posts)Problem is ,of course, that they're threatening it for everyone else too.
Which suits the donor class just fine.
whathehell
(29,169 posts)I'd like to know just what a "TT" is, and suggest, while I'm at it, that you lighten up on the boomer slams.
wolfie001
(2,513 posts)The old fella (is that an ok description, lol) was spewing nonsense about banning Democrats from voting. You may think, "Oh he's just crazy", well, Ohio repukes are actively working to keep Biden off the ballot. The old man is obviously on Medicare AND Social Security, both programs proudly passed by the Democratic Party. It's just ironic AND infuriating to see someone who is obviously benefiting from our programs to be actively making those vile statements. Cheers
whathehell
(29,169 posts)old people on Tik Tok does not a majority make..Of COURSE they're clueless, but there are, and have been, some of those in EVERY generation. Fwiw, I don't know what happened to Ohio. My understanding is that they were a swing state not so long ago.
wolfie001
(2,513 posts)Cheers Also, if I knew how to repost it I would. It was a bit eye opening to even think someone could come up with that line of thinking.
whathehell
(29,169 posts)but in your own interests, rather than mine.
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markodochartaigh
(1,277 posts)Republicans have not already thought of.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/florida-republicans-bill-ban-state-democratic-party-rcna72917
Diraven
(601 posts)If Trump is president again
Captain Zero
(6,991 posts)For us.
If it stands.
Probably a big reason they are doing it.
dutch777
(3,110 posts)Also kind of curious if this has been on the books since 2010 why Dems didn't take into account when setting Convention date. Seems a bit preposterous on numerous parties' parts.
unblock
(52,872 posts)The constitution doesn't even require an election for the presidency. A state legislature could pass a law making their electors selected by a committee, or appointed by the governor.
So I doubt a filing deadline for an election would be unconstitutional.
It's stupid, of course. And the not granting a waiver but is obviously being done for partisan reasons, no way would they be dropping Donnie from the ballot if it was the republicans who had the later convention.
But i don't see how it's unconstitutional.
dickthegrouch
(3,227 posts)To accommodate every single precinct having a different ballot and needing to compile them, edit for accuracy and distribute them.
Could be a lot of work in some large counties.
unblock
(52,872 posts)Not granting a waiver when the nomination is a new formality at this point seems pretty slimy. But as I said, not likely unconstitutional.
Mr.WeRP
(192 posts)On the ballot? The deadline has been pushed back for Republican nominees in the past, Ohio simply refuses to do it on equal terms.
lonely bird
(1,738 posts)Congress can establish voting rules on the federal level
oh, shit, Republicans again.
Never mind.
Mr.WeRP
(192 posts)It is unconstitutional if you go by latest SCOTUS rulings.
unblock
(52,872 posts)Mr.WeRP
(192 posts)Either states can control who goes on the ballot or they cant. It matters not the justification.
unblock
(52,872 posts)In Donnie's case, the Supreme Court held that only the federal government can enforce disqualification *for the reason of having been an insurrectionist* because their interpretation is that the 14th amendment meant for the federal government to enforce that rule.
That in no way means that states can't have filing deadlines and other criteria such as a minimum number of signatures.
DENVERPOPS
(9,113 posts)it matters little to them whether it is constitutional or not, or even follows the normal Rule of Law.......
This is just the start of a plethora of shit coming our way in the months ahead folks....
This Newly Revised Republican Party will stop at nothing this time around folks......
Katie Bar The Door.
This is their culmination of over 45+ years worth of work. They missed, by just a millimeter, of succeeding in 2020.......
unblock
(52,872 posts)If we were going to win Ohio, we were going to win anyway. In short, we don't need Ohio.
I'm actually wondering how it would play politically if we more or less let this happen. It might bolster the argument that republicans are fascists, don't believe in democracy, etc.
Which might help us in the actual battleground states.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,361 posts)unblock
(52,872 posts)And then the actual convention would technically just be a celebration of the nomination, but I don't see why we couldn't do it this way,
sop
(10,603 posts)There was never any doubt who the nominee would be, so just have the DNC nominate Biden "officially" before the deadline by whatever means necessary.
Voltaire2
(13,687 posts)Begging the Ohio clowns or seeking relief from the clown court is dubious. Just do an end run around their bullshit.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,799 posts)They simply cannot be trusted to ever again do the right thing!
Diraven
(601 posts)The only remedy he believes is legal is changing the convention date.
unblock
(52,872 posts)But an earlier, *official* nomination should be fine.
Think. Again.
(10,037 posts)Chakaconcarne
(2,501 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,263 posts)I can't believe Dems would risk some asshole pulling a stunt like this if they didn't!
Diraven
(601 posts)There's always a bounce in the polls for the party having a convention, and if you can keep more of that bounce closer to the election than the other party then you have an advantage.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,263 posts)TomSlick
(11,230 posts)It shouldn't be that hard to check the requirements of all fifty states.
SWBTATTReg
(22,540 posts)And how does f**king Ohio and other similar states get away w/ this, considering that Biden was the previous winner of the last election cycle? How does f**king Ohio republican scumbags do this, despite being the current front runner for the democratic party since day 1?
jimfields33
(16,673 posts)Think. Again.
(10,037 posts)...to nominate our candidate before the deadline.
Wasn't the 2020 convention a zoom meeting?
jimfields33
(16,673 posts)Itd be so easy to do quick zoom on a Saturday afternoon. No more than 20 minutes and done.
Think. Again.
(10,037 posts)jimfields33
(16,673 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,668 posts)Cant discriminate against Democrats if extension for Republicans.
unblock
(52,872 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,668 posts)unblock
(52,872 posts)For 2024, the Republican convention is earlier, before the convention. So only the democrats need a waiver.
I don't see a legal case here, even if their motives are transparent.
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)If they've ever made an exception for one side because they had their convention late, then they can't deny a waiver for the other side if their convention is late.
That's exactly what equal under the law is about. Ohio can't treat A one way and B another just because some schmuck with delusions of grandeur wants to.
unblock
(52,872 posts)intheflow
(28,559 posts)past exemptions. Only difference is this year one party - the ruling party - planned their convention before the arbitrary date they had ignored before, premeditating their move to bar the current president and presumed candidate from the ballot. Incredibly stinky and hopefully wont stand in court.
Oopsie Daisy
(3,088 posts)BumRushDaShow
(131,746 posts)so it's not required assuming the states won the last time are won again in 2024.
Oopsie Daisy
(3,088 posts)It's just amazing to me how ignorant some voters are, and how vengeful and hateful other voters are.
jimfields33
(16,673 posts)dpibel
(2,958 posts)Winner-takes-all means that there are substantial swaths of voters whose votes never really count.
And, yes: It works both ways. There would be, for instance, some Republican electors from California. And some Democrats from Texas.
But all in all, an apportioned elector system is much more like representative democracy.
jimfields33
(16,673 posts)Thatd be the fairest. But toe have only two states involved. It doesnt change the electoral college since one is democratic and the other republican.
dpibel
(2,958 posts)But if, as you say, the current situation makes no difference, why are we bothering with it?
jimfields33
(16,673 posts)InstantGratification
(196 posts)Maine was watching Nebraska and if they pulled that change to throw an extra EC vote to Trump, Maine was going to pass a law to make the same change and throw an extra vote to Biden.
NowsTheTime
(743 posts)BumRushDaShow
(131,746 posts)However like everything else - it's a matter of GOTV and voters know that there is an election going on and Sherrod Brown is on the ballot in a tight race.
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)live love laugh
(13,383 posts)JohnSJ
(92,740 posts)should take this the the Supreme Court, and if they rule against having Biden put on the ballot, then blue states Democratic legislatures need to exclude trump form the ballot, such as California and New York.
Johnny2X2X
(19,655 posts)There are Dems down ballot that will lose without voter turnout for Biden.
jimfields33
(16,673 posts)Raven123
(5,085 posts)One has to wonder how it would impact Sherrod Browns reelection campaign. On one hand you could imagine a negative impact on Dem voter turnout. On the other hand, La Rose was smack dab in the middle of the attempt to thwart the Reproductive Rights amendment vote last year. Here he is once again with the rest of the GOP. Could this backfire and increase turnout for Dems.
Dont know, but it is worth pondering. Wake up, Ohio
Hope22
(2,002 posts)If Dems cant vote for prez why bother voting. The US Senate will take the loss! Brown must be livid. There better be hella demonstrations here! So sick of this $hit!
NanaCat
(2,332 posts)In any calculations about how to handle this idiocy in Ohio.
Because Biden is not an idiot.
Really.
BeyondGeography
(39,435 posts)By any means necessary.
JohnSJ
(92,740 posts)it is fine to exclude Biden, then California and every major blue state with a Democratic majority needs to pass a law in their state legislatures to exclude trump from the ballot, and that will be the start of a real civil war.
Of course a better approach would be to just have a virtual Convention before the scheduled Convention to nominate the Democratic President.
Enough is enough, there is no point in waiting any longer.
Martin68
(23,399 posts)This is just one of numerous ploys involving voter ID, voting station access, etc.
raging moderate
(4,346 posts)They are NOT kicking Biden off the ballot because his party's convention will occur after the date they have just set for printing the ballots. So clearly this is NOT the reason they are kicking Biden off the ballot. Democrats should get this decision blocked right now. The suggestion of a virtual Democratic Convention seems like a good idea. Then the later real Democratic Convention could still be held as a glorious bonding festival!
mwooldri
(10,321 posts)... don't let the reps from Ohio take their seats. Dem or Rep.
Assuming Biden is not on the 24 ballot in Ohio of course.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,674 posts)Voltaire2
(13,687 posts)As soon as a candidate has secured the votes required the nomination should be officially complete.
NYC Liberal
(20,152 posts)Sure, have a 1-2 day celebration of the official nominees if people want. But theres really no reason why we need a week-long convention just for a formality.
progressoid
(50,128 posts)wryter2000
(46,361 posts)Just for the hell of it...
Lisa Murkowski managed to win her Senate seat one year when she was a write-in. Biden is a lot easier than Murkowski to spell.
former9thward
(32,379 posts)The odds he could win it as a write-in is very small. Clinton could not win it either.
wryter2000
(46,361 posts)There you go with your reality.
tinrobot
(10,980 posts)If Democrats make it a big issue, they'll win as well.
Biden needs to be on the ballot.
jaxexpat
(7,050 posts)That's just . But if it works.....................
chowder66
(9,213 posts)OMGWTF
(4,064 posts)They tried that fuckery in 2008 too but it didn't work. Remember when KKKarl Rove was incredulous that Ohio went to Obama because he thought that the fix was in for McCain, but then someone was jamming the Rethuglican's servers not allowing them to flip votes.
Lie, cheat, steal. It's all they have.
Orrex
(63,430 posts)Expect a decision in early December.
Orrex
(63,430 posts)At least, thats basically the argument that SCOTUS seems to be considering.
Abstractartist
(18 posts)Why cant the delegates do a zoom conference meeting 88 days before the election when President Biden receives enough votes to secure the nomination. Pass the nomination from the delegates to the Ohio congress, use this as an October type surprise push to take the Ohio congress, and pass new legislation. Perhaps after the last primary in June, a special delegate zoom can be officially announced by the DNC and the nomination can occur.
Blue Owl
(51,163 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(1,958 posts)Gore1FL
(21,251 posts)When it is time for the infomercial convention, use the time to advertise Biden more.
lees1975
(4,045 posts)If it doesn't something is wrong.
Botany
(70,897 posts)The congressional races are over before the 1st vote is cast because of gerrymandering.
The republican speaker of the House in Ohio is in prison for his part in taking in 62 million dollars
in bribes in order to get the utility companies 1.6 billion in kickbacks.
The Ohio Democratic Party is the quintessential limp groom on the wedding night.
And with a womans rights being on the ballot the GOP will make sure the state stays red.
And registered voters (black and democrats) are always being dropped from voter lists.
Interstate cross check is still being used.
When a really good doctor worked to stop the spread of C-19 gun toting mouth breathers
Showed up in her and her familys yard and Mike DeWine didnt do shit so she had to quit
her job as director of the States Department of Health.
And I forgot Ohio 2004 and the election that was stolen and when a federal judge said that
the people had the right to see the Countys BOE records from the election in many counties
the Republicans just threw out the paperwork and poll logs. In one county* that said that a
coffee pot broke and so they had to throw away the materials because people might get cut
from the broken glass and in another county** they ordered new poll logs, ballots, and what
not which they filled out in order to match last falls election results.
* Richland
**. Delaware
NowsTheTime
(743 posts)Owens
(230 posts)This sounds like a violation of the election law, if Colorado is forced to keep Trump on the ballot then Ohio should be forced to.
PlutosHeart
(1,367 posts)usually the courts are pretty much bought. Waiting for other States to find any myriad of reasons. And no matter taking this or that to court, they will make certain by cheating and lying to win.
I may sound pessimistic but cannot anyone see how they are more than setting up to make sure X45 will be "ruler"?
I am really sick to my stomach at this point. Actually have a stomach ache right now. I am also angry that our system is putting up with this because it is showing flaws. Disregard for our country. Disregard for the whole planet really.
mn9driver
(4,452 posts)The GOP has become a fascist, authoritarian mob. They do not believe in or accept democracy.
This is just the beginning of an election shitshow like no one alive has ever seen here.
manicdem
(437 posts)Whomever set the date for this year's convention is at fault since the law was in effect for 14 years. That's gross incompetence.
Both parties had late conventions in 2012 and 2020 so it wasn't a partisan issue and the deadline was extended, or else Ohio wouldn't have a vote for the president.
markodochartaigh
(1,277 posts)cropped up, in different states, and with both parties. Previously it was always resolved. I think that most people believe that it will be resolved this time too. However, in the meantime, it is a huge amount of excrement launched into the electric oscillating appliance. At a minimum this is a huge waste of the Democratic party's energy. I think that the chaos is the plan.
Rebl2
(13,785 posts)be a write in candidate? Can democrats sue and try to get it thrown out?
LonePirate
(13,496 posts)keithbvadu2
(37,554 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,781 posts)Don't waste time and money on the courts; they will LOSE, just as the courts let TFG remain on the ballot, slapping the Constitution in the face.
Don't play their games!
JohnnyRingo
(18,816 posts)Whose job is it to be aware of the republican's arcane rules for nomination?
This isn't a tough one to find out.
Of course if the Ohio republicans were decent people, they would work with the Biden campaign on this.
2nd question.... Who was assuming republicans are decent people?
I know somebody better do something. The Ohio Democratic Party was informed of this months ago. I know this because I first heard of it almost three months ago.
Quanto Magnus
(924 posts)This needs to be pointed out every time they pull some BS like this.
LudwigPastorius
(9,486 posts)Anti-democratic pieces of shit!
GenThePerservering
(1,998 posts)calling a special legislative session to get Joe Biden on the ballot.
John Shaft
(460 posts)When will someone responsible, privileged, wealthy, and who is part of "The System" do anything?
Say anything?
These insurrectionists are acting in a shadow government framework: laws; customs; ethics; precedents; institutions DO NOT APPLY anymore.
This all feels scripted.