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Wicked Blue

(6,864 posts)
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 10:49 AM Aug 2024

Angry Senator's brother calls B.S. on JD Vance's attack on Tim Walz

Source: NJ.com

By Matt Arco | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

Scott Kelly is having none of JD Vance’s “stolen valor” attacks against Tim Walz for not having gone to Iraq despite serving more than two decades in the National Guard.

Kelly, a former Navy captain and the identical twin of U.S. Sen. Mark Kelly, took to X to rail against Donald Trump’s running mate after Vance had a lengthy takedown of Walz on the campaign trail. He accused Kamala Harris’s running mate of having “abandoned” his unit in 2005 ahead of a planned deployment to Iraq and instead opted to run for Congress.

“He has not spent a day in a combat zone,” Vance said. “What bothers me about Tim Walz is the stolen valor garbage. Do not pretend to be something that you’re not.”

Scott Kelly clapped back:

“You know what really bothers me @JDVance, is when you attack a fellow veterans military service. I respect your service and the service of @GovTimWalz and all of those honorably discharged. He was eligible for retirement after 24 years and submitted his retirement paperwork before his unit received orders (or even warning orders) to deploy and then he continued his service as a member of congress,” Scott Kelly said.

Read more: https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/08/angry-senators-brother-calls-bs-on-jd-vances-attack-on-tim-walz.html

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Angry Senator's brother calls B.S. on JD Vance's attack on Tim Walz (Original Post) Wicked Blue Aug 2024 OP
The repugs are grasping at straws. It looks like they may have caught a 2x4 erronis Aug 2024 #1
This was a very stupid move by Vance. yardwork Aug 2024 #2
It is a very stupid move. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #3
I assume they thought they saw a chance to swiftboat. yardwork Aug 2024 #4
Yes this stupid move is raising questions for sure. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #5
Is it true that Don Jr. is running the campaign? yardwork Aug 2024 #6
Good question. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #7
We should know a bit more after the presser today. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #8
Don Jr. couldn't run a Mr.Bill Aug 2024 #18
MAGA has conflated Rules #2 and #7 resulting in confusion, fear, repetition and retreat. Marcuse Aug 2024 #9
Well, Vance seems (acts, and speaks) like a very stupid guy. calimary Aug 2024 #19
Just exactly what we want in an opposition candidate. Just Dumb Vance should keep talking! Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2024 #20
An EXTRAORDINARILY stupid move. There are millions of past and present National Guard servicemembers. TygrBright Aug 2024 #12
Any candidate team that includes Chump can hardly criticize the military service of others FakeNoose Aug 2024 #15
Especially BonnieJW Aug 2024 #13
He is such a weasel. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #14
He's a couch fucking shitweasel ...nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #22
You spruced up my cussing very nicely. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #25
I'm good at that. nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #29
J D Vance has not denied that he's a lying couchf****r surfered Aug 2024 #10
I screwed up. Peace all. twodogsbarking Aug 2024 #11
You would think with Vance's military service, he would know valleyrogue Aug 2024 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Aug 2024 #17
Vance went after Barry McCaffrey for his service, too. Gore1FL Aug 2024 #21
Don't mess with the Kelly boys! NBachers Aug 2024 #23
Vance bromeando Aug 2024 #24
Democrats act with honor BoRaGard Aug 2024 #26
If you're on the ticket with cadet bone spur deferrment, lees1975 Aug 2024 #27
No more swift boating bullshit! shotten99 Aug 2024 #28
Who's the weakling whining Mr. Mustard 2023 Aug 2024 #30

erronis

(17,356 posts)
1. The repugs are grasping at straws. It looks like they may have caught a 2x4
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 10:56 AM
Aug 2024

swung by a group they shouldn't want to offend.

yardwork

(64,942 posts)
2. This was a very stupid move by Vance.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 10:57 AM
Aug 2024

Reminding voters that rich guy Trump got a medical deferment is not a winning position.

yardwork

(64,942 posts)
4. I assume they thought they saw a chance to swiftboat.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 11:28 AM
Aug 2024

It's a fail all around. Kerry was vulnerable to the lies about his service because he had protested against the Vietnam War after serving. Also, at that time the Republicans rolled out a whole strategy, complete with supposed witnesses, books, a film.

This is a different time, different war, different candidates. To accuse a veteran of stolen valor because he retired after 24 years is ridiculous, comes off as hysterical.

Team Trump are amateurs and it shows. Vance wasn't ready for prime time.

Irish_Dem

(60,851 posts)
5. Yes this stupid move is raising questions for sure.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 11:31 AM
Aug 2024

Trump's campaign staff, where are they?

Why are they re-cycling old tactics which are no longer workable in today's setting?

To me it looks like there is no campaign staff or they are just phoning it in?

Did Trump pocket all the campaign budget?
Does the staff know it is over?

Even Putin knows it is over.

Irish_Dem

(60,851 posts)
8. We should know a bit more after the presser today.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 11:35 AM
Aug 2024

If it is really bad, we know the Trump campaign staff are AWOL.
Junior is in charge.

Marcuse

(8,069 posts)
9. MAGA has conflated Rules #2 and #7 resulting in confusion, fear, repetition and retreat.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 12:08 PM
Aug 2024

calimary

(84,823 posts)
19. Well, Vance seems (acts, and speaks) like a very stupid guy.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 01:07 PM
Aug 2024

JUST EXACTLY what we want, a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

TygrBright

(20,987 posts)
12. An EXTRAORDINARILY stupid move. There are millions of past and present National Guard servicemembers.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 12:24 PM
Aug 2024

Insulting an accomplishment like achieving the highest possible enlisted rank over 24 years' service cuts at the service of ALL Guard and Reserve personnel throughout the services. That's about 3/4 of a million active members and millions more retirees. And their families. And active-duty servicemembers who see guard and reserve service as important reinforcements and adjunct service providers.

Keep the dumb coming, GOPpies!

encouragingly,
Bright

FakeNoose

(36,193 posts)
15. Any candidate team that includes Chump can hardly criticize the military service of others
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 12:53 PM
Aug 2024

My God ... the nerve of them! The nerve of JD Vance!

valleyrogue

(1,267 posts)
16. You would think with Vance's military service, he would know
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 12:55 PM
Aug 2024

what "stolen valor" is. It is a federal crime. He is accusing Walz of committing a federal crime. It is unbelievably stupid.

So much for Yale Law graduates being so-called "geniuses" just because they got into it. There are as many idiots from the Ivy League as elsewhere.

Response to Wicked Blue (Original post)

Gore1FL

(22,025 posts)
21. Vance went after Barry McCaffrey for his service, too.
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 01:21 PM
Aug 2024

This is what Vance said:

"Your entire time in military leadership we won zero wars. You drank fine wine at bulls—t security conferences while thousands of working class kids died on the battlefield. Oh, by the way, how much do you stand to gain financially from a war with Russia, Barry?"


Besides rising to th rank of General, McCaffrey earned Two Silver Stars, Three Purple Hearts, and commanded the "left hook" attack by the 24th Infantry Division in Desert Storm during his career.

Vance is a douchebag.

BoRaGard

(3,450 posts)
26. Democrats act with honor
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 01:31 PM
Aug 2024

republicons act like republicons

and they wonder why people see them as deplorable.

weird.

lees1975

(6,173 posts)
27. If you're on the ticket with cadet bone spur deferrment,
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 01:51 PM
Aug 2024

then you have no business criticizing anyone who actually served.

shotten99

(678 posts)
28. No more swift boating bullshit!
Thu Aug 8, 2024, 02:12 PM
Aug 2024

I’ve been furious with the Republicans for 20 years because of their bs in 2004. This just reopened an old wound.

Mr. Mustard 2023

(264 posts)
30. Who's the weakling whining
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:40 AM
Aug 2024

about women with cats?

When Republicon J.D. Vance sees a woman with a cat, he hides behind Dear Leader because Vance is so, very afraid of women. And cats.

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