JD Vance says school shootings are a "fact of life"

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Salon

Published September 5, 2024 9:39PM (EDT)


Republican Vice Presidential nominee JD Vance said that school shootings were simply a “fact of life” after a shooting at a Georgia high school left four dead — the 45th school shooting in the United States so far this year.

The comments, made at an Arizona rally on Thursday, come after Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate Tim Walz called for enhanced gun control measures in their own campaign rallies following the shooting.

“If these psychos are going to go after our kids we’ve got to be prepared for it,” Vance said, bucking a question asked on gun control measures and instead championing efforts to spend more on school security, per the Associated Press. “We don’t have to like the reality that we live in, but it is the reality we live in. We’ve got to deal with it.”

Vance, who noted that the event was an “awful tragedy,” faced criticism in June for calling gun violence in schools a “fake problem” and called an attempt to ban bump stocks, used in the Las Vegas shooting that killed 60, a “huge distraction.”

Read more: https://www.salon.com/2024/09/05/jd-vance-says-school-are-a-fact-of-life/

[2naSalit]

1. So...

The campaign message here is that the repugs think that shootings are a fact of life and we should just get over it and move on whenever they happen.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Easy for him to say

Snipers? Check
Obvious Agents? Check
Thick Glass? Check

[BattleRow]

58. Not a fact of life,but

a grim reality that has evolved since the GOP and NRA elevated guns to God status.

Their golden calf is made of molten gunmetal.

[Ray Bruns]

2. Like I have said in other posts, J D Vance can go fuck himself.

[Magoo48]

17. Just another republican sociopath bumbling before the willfully ignorant cultists.

[BattleRow]

52. Maybe this is to encourage fear,

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to dismantle public schools and encourage homeschooling..moms stay at home,and childcare costs go down,no teachers union,no gun restrictions..

We can revert all the way back to covered wagons and little couch on the prairie.

[appalachiablue]

79. ++

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

26. And, as the couches in the chat know, he would fuck himself if he could

[Moon_Dog]

47. J D Vance can go fuck himself

He does...fuck himself... every time he opens his pie hole.

[smb]

84. J-DiVan-ce Can Go Fall Onto His Fainting Couch nt

[Irish_Dem]

3. Bastard.

[Walleye]

4. Of course, since he's a Republican, he won't feel anything for the victims, and unless one of his children is torn apart

With a powerful weapon, his beautiful children. Typical Republican thinks his kids are more important than other people’s. Can’t possibly imagine grief. These other parents are going through His only solution is more violence. This is their party now. Here’s a new slogan for you, children over party. Of course they can’t even tell you what children really are. They think any cluster of fertilized ovum is a child.

[sarge43]

18. "They think any cluster of fertized ovum is a child."

Until it's born, then it's just target practice.

[BattleRow]

57. Cannon fodder

[sarge43]

62. Wage slaves

[BattleRow]

63. SS branded cattle

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

5. Nothing more traditional at the holler than a good old shoot 'em up

Is that what you mean JD?

[Probatim]

6. That some people don't want to have kids is also a fact of life.

Lots of facts of life for JD - like 60% of Americans think you can go fuck yourself.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

7. The Republican party benefits by destroying public education. Republican gun policies are therefore terrorist tactics.

School shootings are not a fact of life in sane countries.

[PJMcK]

8. That's rich

Vance is talking about "facing reality?!"

He should send that message to Trump.

[Vinca]

9. They think somehow they're immune. Even after the Trump incident. I don't get it, I really don't get it.

JD is pretty much saying, "It's an irritation, like poison ivy. Get over it."

[magicarpet]

80. Vance is saying,...

Whatever will be,...

Will be......

Nothing we could or should do about it,... it is God's Will.

?si=6vVsK3-Kxj_6PUw8

[twodogsbarking]

10. As long as you hand out guns like candy on Halloween you can expect it.

I don't see that changing.

[truthisfreedom]

11. Banning bump stocks is a huge distraction? But your candidate

did it by executive order, you nitwit!

“ Trump administration moves to ban bump stocks
BY MICHAEL BALSAMO
Published 4:07 PM CDT, December 18, 2018”

https://apnews.com/article/6c1af80fb290472c89fb930e223505af

[IronLionZion]

12. Arm the kids, an armed society is a polite society

That never goes wrong ever. The real problem is that these gun free zones don't have enough guns. The answer is more guns.





Since Vance wants us to accept the unacceptable, let's win enough seats in a blue wave to change it.

[Seinan Sensei]

44. "The only thing to stop a Bad Guy with a gun, is a Good Guy with a gun"

Well, except when it isn't

Uvalde had three-hundred seventy-six law enforcement officers
held at-bay by one 18-yr-old with an AR-15-style rifle

So, nope
Left-swipe
We know what works. We know what doesn't.
First of all, get JD to shut the f--k up

[Aussie105]

14. Vance telling you who he is.

And believe him, he is serious!

What is Charlton Heston's line at the end of the Planet of the Apes?

Oh yeah!

“You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!”

Some people just want to blow up America, one school shooting at a time.
And smile while they are watching it on the news.

[IronLionZion]

22. And what Charlton Heston said while NRA president

"From my cold dead hands".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlton_Heston#NRA_president

He's dead so let's go for it. "Oh yeah!"

[Zambero]

15. Society needs more "replacement kids"?

to account for ho-hum no-big-deal school massacres? Now I can begin to comprehend the type of reasoning where Vance bemoans "childless cat ladies" not doing their part to ensure that there is "no net loss" following a never-ending succession of school mass shootings. Simple population math to remedy an inconvenient "fact of life"!

[chouchou]

16. I'd like to ram this up JD Vance's ass...

Search
# Country Number of School Shootings
1 United States of America 288
2 Mexico 8
3 South Africa 6
4 India 5
5 Nigeria 4
6 Pakistan 4
7 Afghanistan 3
8 Brazil 2
9 Canada 2
10 France 2
11 Azerbaijan 1
12 Estonia 1
13 Germany 1
14 Greece 1
15 Hungary 1
16 Kenya 1
17 People's Republic of China 1
18 Russia 1
19 Turkey 1
20 Argentina 0
21 Australia 0
22 Italy 0
23 Japan 0
24 Netherlands 0
25 Spain 0
26 Switzerland 0
27 United Kingdom 0

[Prairie_Seagull]

43. Thank you seems weird so I will say

I appreciate you efforts.

[Clouds Passing]

19. They don't need to be, you effing moron!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

20. JD Vance calls school shootings 'a fact of life,' faces pushback

To hear JD Vance tell it, deadly school shootings, such as this week's tragedy in Georgia, are "a fact of life.” The comments generated swift pushback.

Link to tweet

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/jd-vance-calls-school-shootings-fact-life-faces-pushback-rcna169900

In general, in the immediate aftermath of a deadly school shooting, Republican officials have spent recent years sticking to a familiar playbook. They (1) offer “thoughts and prayers”; (2) say something along the lines of, “This isn’t the time to talk about politics”; and (3) roll out stale culture-war ideas such as regulating video games and pushing state-endorsed religion in public schools.....

But Republican politics in the Trump era has been a little different.

It was earlier this year, for example, when Donald Trump responded to a school shooting in Iowa by urging supporters to “move forward,” adding his belief that people “have to get over it.”

The former president’s comments came to mind after seeing new and related remarks from his 2024 running mate. The Associated Press reported:

Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance said Thursday that he lamented that school shootings are a “fact of life” and argued the U.S. needs to harden security to prevent more carnage like the shooting this week that left four dead in Georgia.

.....But Vance nevertheless concluded, “I don’t like that this is a fact of life.”

Link to tweet

......In a statement issued soon after Vance’s public comments, the Harris/Walz campaign team issued a written statement that read, “Yesterday, Vice President Harris said ‘it doesn’t have to be this way’ in response to another senseless school shooting. Donald Trump and JD Vance think school shootings are a ‘fact of life’ and ‘we have to get over it.’

“Vice President Harris and Governor Walz know we can take action to keep our children safe and keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Donald Trump and JD Vance will choose the NRA and gun lobby over our children. That is the choice in this election.”

[Skittles]

78. but of course, he is "pro-life"

[Kid Berwyn]

21. Therefore, there's nothing we can do about school shootings per JD Vance.

Weird.

[RobinA]

42. All He Knows

is reaction. If for no other reason, not the guy I want trying to get along with belligerent nations and their psycho leaders.

[Kid Berwyn]

45. In addition to separating AR-15s from nutjobs...

...I suggest an idea from Pablo Casals:



Like souls awakening, children raised to treat others with love and kindness will grow to discover and appreciate their own remarkable and unique natures. And while Casals never had biological children of his own, to express the above sentiment shows that he sure loved kids.

[Hope22]

23. Looking at this photo I have to ask...

What country do we live in? Couple more pieces of glass and he could officially be the turd in the punch bowl!

[Scully]

24. Fuck you, JD Vance.

We don't have to deal with that being a fact of life. We have to change the reality.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on and your bulletproof glass and your weird shiftiness and your insane, misogynistic views and everything about you and that perspective.

Oh, and off topic, but fuck Governor Kemp too for being a coward and not having a published email address so I can send him a piece of my mind too on this. My kid shouldn't have to be scared to go to school.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

25. The Harris Walz campaign just released this SCATHING statement on JD Vance calling school shootings a "fact of life."

Link to tweet

[keep_left]

60. If you want "scathing", one of those media groups...

...like Meidas or the Lincoln Project should really satirize Vance with one of those SNL-style "cold open" fake ads using the Facts of Life TV show theme. I can just hear it now...

You take the good,
You take the bad,
You shoot the kids,
and there you have
the Facts of Life,
the Facts of Life!

(and there are additional lyrics as well...)

Yeah, I know...poor taste...too soon...etc. But what is more disgusting than the complete lack of action after the Newtown shooting in 2012? That was when the point of no return was reached; the society truly hit rock bottom. It became clear that nothing would be done--even when 20 children and six school staff were murdered--all to placate the gun fetishists and their bought-off lackeys in Congress.

[wryter2000]

27. Well...

We'll stop talking about childless cat ladies now, so he accomplished something.

[MuseRider]

28. Way to problem solve

you jackass. I do not like anything about you but I will be nice enough to remind you that you are playing on the big field. Take good precautions because not all your nut job followers will like everything you say.

Try solving this problem for ALL of us who do not deserve to have to be fearful all the time or possibly lose those dear to us.

Keep your smart ass responses to yourself.

[Linda ladeewolf]

29. Not when

I grew up! Where I lived, the guys used to come to school with gun racks in the back windows of their trucks and guns in them. I don’t think they ever thought of killing anyone with them. So, what changed in America, that now this is so common? We had bullies back then too. What is the catalyst that changed everyone’s responses to each other?

[Evolve Dammit]

65. NRA became a domestic, Russian backed fascist organization?

[Linda ladeewolf]

71. That and

Social media and I believe the advent of video games had a lot to do with it.

[smb]

85. Not This "Video Games" Nonsense

Every industrialized country has video games. A lot of them (e.g. Japan) have much more intense video game cultures than the US.

[Linda ladeewolf]

88. Very true

Our children see violence on television, games, movies, continually. Then there is that other thing which drives me nuts, they see all the violence, but on the news, they always blur out the reality, the results of that violence. The blood, the deaths are kept hidden because it might offend our delicate sensitivities. I don’t think the reality ever really sinks in to anyone’s mind. Other nations are not having this problem, why are we the only ones? We are doing something wrong, whether we like it or not. What do we do that is different? It may not be the video games themselves, but something that goes along with it.

[BlueWavePsych]

30. This is what happens when all they care about are themselves.

[twodogsbarking]

31. School shootings are a fact of death.

[patphil]

32. It's the reality we live in, we've got to deal with it.

OK, so let's deal with it.
You can change reality if you want to; if you have the will to do what it takes; if you give a shit about all those dead and wounded people you can fix the problem.
Obviously, Just Dumb Vance is a big NO on all of this.

Anyone who thinks 60 dead people, killed by a person using a AR-15 with a bump stock, is just a "huge distraction" has a callous disregard for life. What the fuck is it we are being distracted from?

And he believes he's pro-life. F**k him.

[Wicked Blue]

33. Someone needs to sit CouchTool down and tell him about the birds, bees and bullets

and the impact that the bullets have on human bodies.

[Martin68]

34. J.D. Vance's idiocy, lack of empathy, and total ignorance is a fact of life.

[birdographer]

35. If we listened closely at the time he said this

I do believe we would hear the velcro-like sound of many parents peeling away from voting republican in November.

[IronLionZion]

36. ours is the only country where this is a regular occurrence

Everywhere else it is a rare thing and not a fact of life at all.

[keithbvadu2]

37. Abortions are also a fact of life. Let's try thoughts and prayers for them

instead of more laws.

[Prairie_Seagull]

38. My kids are grown (like many here)

They have begun (terrible word in this context) their lives as teachers.

At what point is our country inhospitable? MineralMan had a thread about being prepared with proper documentation for travel and voting should it be needed.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19422144

I would add inhospitable.

This shit ain't normal and we know it.

[usonian]

39. So schoolkids should be Kamikaze's for Vance?

GO TO SCHOOL IN THEIR BURIAL ROBES?

END THIS FUCKIN MADNESS
BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS

AND VANCE

(sorry about the caps, I am smoking mad)

[Oopsie Daisy]

40. You take the good, you take the bad, you take them all, and then you have the Facts of Life!

[barbtries]

41. So we should just accept that?!

no, no, no, no!

They are not "just" a fact of life anywhere else in the world. As Joe Biden said, how can we say we're the greatest nation on earth when mass murder is routine?!

I hope he catches lots and lots of shit for this statement

[ancianita]

46. Then he's a bad, bad Catholic.

[Keepthesoulalive]

50. This man is not a catholic

He is a bought and paid for idiot.

[ancianita]

53. He's both. Baptized Catholic in 2019 and bought and paid for idiot ever since.

And he's a bad, bad idiot, too.

[BattleRow]

64. Paging Opus Dei

[ancianita]

66. When he loses he'll have the rest of his life to repent. lol

[BattleRow]

68. If there is justice,

hopefully a lot of others will,too.

With an eternal and especially sharp , and uncomfortably tight ,cilice belt as an uncomfortable reminder.

[ancianita]

69. Oh, there is.

It will be served up by The People on Nov 5.

Then will Thiel have anything to do with him? Probably not. He'll be on his own.

[BattleRow]

70. There is absolutely no honor

among thieves.

[ancianita]

72. okay then...thanks for the non sequitur

[BattleRow]

74. Yw

[Jean Genie]

48. A fact of life

Just like death and taxes, eh, J.D.?

[JimmyGnarlyFL]

49. Yeah we see his 'kind:

Bet 2$ the ' holy man - baloney - owed money, maybe construction $ etc.. who knows. Shameful as they go.

!?

[C0RI0LANUS]

51. Thanks to the GOP and NRA, school shootings are indeed at fact of life for us. Begone J Dunce Vance!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

54. Trump response to school shooting: "We have to get over it"

Link to tweet

[Old Crank]

55. Just disgusting.

School shootings weren't "a fact of life" when I went to school and we had the occasional pickup with a gun in a gun rack at our HS. These progun idiots worshiping murder machines.

[Ford_Prefect]

56. According to Vance the Earth is flat and Gravity is only a 'theory'.

[agalisgv]

59. "If these psychos are going to go after our kids we've got to be prepared for it..."

Like they were in Uvalde?

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/20/uvalde-police-shooting-response-records

[Raven123]

67. Doesn't feel the same about abortions however

[Brainfodder]

73. He is just another PAY to SAY. This is for soundbites/cips for their base, sans the stupid AF stuff!

Do you think the FIX news outlets show JD looking bad on the regular?

If the civil war starts, is it over when Hannity's head is on a pike next to TSF or what?

[markodochartaigh]

75. Authoritarians believe that it is

the prerogative of the powerful to change, or to dictate, reality and that everyone else must struggle the best we can under those conditions.

[OAITW r.2.0]

76. What can I say, that has not already been said?

He's an asshole.

[elias7]

77. How could you vote for that?

School shootings were not a fact of life until recently, which makes them not a fact of life, but a fact of poor cultural, and ultimately ideological choices.

[Beartracks]

81. "Purported Pro-life Guy Says Kids Getting Murdered at School is 'Fact of Life' "

[IcyPeas]

82. Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC this morning

Said Vance's comment was taken out of context...

[Nasruddin]

83. Like midterms and detention

[TommieMommy]

86. No no no, they should not be a fact of life, what an idiot 😡

[republianmushroom]

87. An idiot possibly, but more like a bearer of bad news.

How Many Guns in America?
In 2017, there was estimated to be near 400 million guns in the United States between police, the military, and American civilians. Over 393 Million (Over 98%) of those guns are in civilian hands, the equivalent of 120 firearms per 100 citizens.

https://americangunfacts.com/gun-ownership-statistics/

It is estimated there are more that 20 million AR type rifles in the US.

[TBF]

89. Shady likely thinks children are completely replaceable -

women can just give birth to more. After all, he thinks that is all women are good for. I loathe that monster.