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muriel_volestrangler

(105,628 posts)
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:11 PM Jul 2025

Trump says Epstein 'stole' underage victim Virginia Giuffre from his Mar-a-Lago spa, leading to feud

Source: MSN/The Independent

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said he ended his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein because the disgraced financier “stole” young women working at his Mar-a-Lago spa too many times — including a 17-year-old Virginia Giuffre.
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Pressed further on whether the workers poached by Epstein included Giuffre, then a Mar-a-Lago pool locker-room attendant whose groundskeeper dad got her a job there, Trump confirmed she was among the poachings.

“I told him, I said, listen, we don’t want you taking our people, whether it was spa or not spa. I don’t want him taking people. And he was fine. And then, not too long after that, he did it again. And I said, out of here,” he said, describing Epstein as having “stolen” his spa workers.

Asked point blank if one of them was Giuffre, who died aged 41 by suicide earlier this year, he replied: “I think she worked at the spa. I think so. I think that was one of the people.”

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/trump-says-epstein-stole-underage-victim-virginia-giuffre-from-his-mar-a-lago-spa-leading-to-feud/ar-AA1JwRwN



Trump thought he owned a 17 year old girl.
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Trump says Epstein 'stole' underage victim Virginia Giuffre from his Mar-a-Lago spa, leading to feud (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2025 OP
Sure RandySF Jul 2025 #1
+1. probably the response deserved -(nt)- stopdiggin Jul 2025 #2
I need to change my shoes and socks. AZ8theist Jul 2025 #37
Growing up in Texas a half century ago in a family who struggled to stay in the working class, markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #3
MAGA wants to take us back to those days IronLionZion Jul 2025 #10
I thought iit was that real estate deal that jeffie won over orange? niyad Jul 2025 #4
In 2007, an anonymous Mar-a-Lago source said it was Epstein abusing (trying to abuse?) a masseuse muriel_volestrangler Jul 2025 #7
"about 18 years old" tanyev Jul 2025 #13
Sounded just like him. "Tried to get her to do some things" is trump-speak. Hekate Jul 2025 #38
That was the original original excuse underpants Jul 2025 #31
Paternalism...that virginity prize is mine! travelingthrulife Jul 2025 #47
What was it that they use to say in the olden days? Baitball Blogger Jul 2025 #5
We are talking about the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #6
So the GE was rigged, so Dems might as well not turn out speak easy Jul 2025 #25
I sarcastically said it was an underaged female Epstein stole Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2025 #8
I remember some poster said that just as I read the info! electric_blue68 Jul 2025 #15
Like a protege from Woltz International C_U_L8R Jul 2025 #9
"she was the best piece of ass I have ever had ...." Botany Jul 2025 #21
So Donnie barely knows Epstein but remembers a 17 year old employee that Epstein poached. progressoid Jul 2025 #11
Did Dumb Donald just convict himself of employing underage girls (and possibly sex trafficking)? ificandream Jul 2025 #12
Ohhh, pul-leaseeee, yes!!! 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 electric_blue68 Jul 2025 #16
Uhm, no. It's long been known that Virginia Giuffre worked at Mar-a-lago when she was 16. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #26
First I'd heard of it. ificandream Aug 2025 #50
It just makes me sick... CapnSteve Jul 2025 #14
So they were arguing over teenage girls. Not the least bit surprising. Sick fucks. Solly Mack Jul 2025 #17
A virgin is a valuable commodity in sex trafficking world. travelingthrulife Jul 2025 #48
Dropped a dime on the perv, huh, Donnie? Kid Berwyn Jul 2025 #18
... orangecrush Jul 2025 #19
G O P MW67 Jul 2025 #20
He's sinking deeper and deeper. mwb970 Jul 2025 #22
Not really. Guys like Charlie Kirk are coming johnnyfins Jul 2025 #30
We'll see. mwb970 Jul 2025 #40
Neither do I. Just an example of the message johnnyfins Jul 2025 #41
For the record, Giuffre was working at Mar-a-lago in 2000 (at age 16, not 17 as the article says) Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #23
Appreciate the fact check. Thank you for posting this. emulatorloo Jul 2025 #32
so WHAT IS TRUMP HIDING Skittles Jul 2025 #39
Translation: He was angry because he considered her "his" sexual property . . . SarcasticSatyr Jul 2025 #24
Uhm No. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #27
GODDAMN you, politico. A 16-year old is NOT a woman, she is a MINOR. niyad Jul 2025 #36
trump lies often and a lot. republianmushroom Jul 2025 #28
So, he knew her name? A locker room attendant? From how long ago? underpants Jul 2025 #29
I know what I think. ananda Jul 2025 #33
It sure is helpful that Virginia is dead, ain't it? choie Jul 2025 #34
Yep. Her testimony survives, though. johnnyfins Jul 2025 #42
Trump frantically spinning the story as usual. cstanleytech Jul 2025 #35
He was asked on AF1 and at first he said "I don't know..." but couldn't shut up underpants Jul 2025 #49
It's a bit late to report the theft, Donnie bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #43
"Trump thought he owned a 17 year old girl." Texin Jul 2025 #44
Gaslighting to no end. spanone Jul 2025 #45
You hire people, you steal property eom Maeve Jul 2025 #46

markodochartaigh

(5,079 posts)
3. Growing up in Texas a half century ago in a family who struggled to stay in the working class,
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:29 PM
Jul 2025

it was common knowledge that many local employers would not hire you if you quit or lost your job working for one of their peers. They felt that they owned their employees, or at least that their employees owed them for providing them a living. Of course this created a class of workers who were not inclined to make any kind of "trouble" and who were poorly paid and treated. Unless you could move a few hundred miles away or get one of the few jobs working for a national business or the government you were trapped.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,628 posts)
7. In 2007, an anonymous Mar-a-Lago source said it was Epstein abusing (trying to abuse?) a masseuse
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:48 PM
Jul 2025

It is two sides of the same coin. The worker in question was allegedly someone Epstein hired away to abuse. His victims were known as masseuses

Lindsay Beyerstein (@beyerstein.bsky.social) 2025-07-29T18:03:02.451Z


Meanwhile, the Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach last night confirmed a Web site report that Epstein has been banned there. “He would use the spa to try to procure girls. But one of them, a masseuse about 18 years old, he tried to get her to do things,” a source told us. “Her father found out about it and went absolutely ape-[bleep]. Epstein’s not allowed back.” Epstein denies he is banned from Mar-a-Lago and says, in fact, he was recently invited to an event there.

https://pagesix.com/2007/10/15/sex-case-victims-lining-up/

Giuffre's father was a maintenance manager at Mar-a-Lago.

underpants

(195,107 posts)
31. That was the original original excuse
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:52 PM
Jul 2025

Which would have been a nice clean summary ….BUT, hold on - here we go, Trump implied things which are what know about Epstein and THEN brought up a 16 year old girl working as a locker room attendant 25 years ago that Epstein “stole” ….,from HIM. He did that today. He remembers that.

You steal property.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
6. We are talking about the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:46 PM
Jul 2025



Even though it is now clear the election was rigged, how in the FUCK did over 70 million vote for him AGAIN

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make sure and watch all 3 parts...

speak easy

(12,595 posts)
25. So the GE was rigged, so Dems might as well not turn out
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:18 PM
Jul 2025

the midterms because they are likely to be rigged too. Is that what you are saying? I can think of any claim more counter prodcutive. We have a full on emergency not that demands our full attention. Unless there are concrete provable instances that pass muster ... to shore up conduct of the midterms, what's the point? To depress turnout? Surely that is not what you want?

Why post this under an OP about Epstein?

progressoid

(52,632 posts)
11. So Donnie barely knows Epstein but remembers a 17 year old employee that Epstein poached.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 05:25 PM
Jul 2025

MmmHmm....

Wiz Imp

(9,085 posts)
26. Uhm, no. It's long been known that Virginia Giuffre worked at Mar-a-lago when she was 16.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:19 PM
Jul 2025

There is no law prohibiting 16 year olds from being employed by resorts. In this case, it was apparently a summer job and she likely got the job because her father was a maintenance manager there. Giuffre has repeatedly said that she never observed any wrongdoing by Trump. And you jump from this to thinking it could be evidence of sex trafficking?

Nothing incriminating here, just lies from Trump about why he broke off the friendship with Epstein.

ificandream

(11,709 posts)
50. First I'd heard of it.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 12:33 PM
Aug 2025

And given the responses to this news about her, a lot of other people didn't know either.

CapnSteve

(393 posts)
14. It just makes me sick...
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 05:42 PM
Jul 2025

...everyone knew this about Donnie before 2016, before 2010, before 2000. Bad actors (Russians, Republicans, the pedophile billionaire class) manipulated social media and low info, non-critical thinkers fell into line.

There needs to be a reckoning and justice for his many victims. Take his money and throw him in jail, along with anyone who enabled this bullshit. Now.

We the people have this power. Vote vote vote...

johnnyfins

(3,486 posts)
30. Not really. Guys like Charlie Kirk are coming
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:48 PM
Jul 2025

to his rescue. Kirk just called the actual files, some "Comey File". He went on to say that Maxwell is where the REAL info is.

These files will NEVER be released under TSF. They may never be released at all. Maxwell will either stay in prison or be disappeared.

TSF will eventually skate on this just like everything else. It will dog him until the end of his term, but he will skate. It's a sick fucking world we live in.

mwb970

(12,095 posts)
40. We'll see.
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 05:18 AM
Jul 2025

I don't look to Charlie Kirk, whoever that is, for clues about the future.

johnnyfins

(3,486 posts)
41. Neither do I. Just an example of the message
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 05:43 AM
Jul 2025

They are trying to put out there. Files=hoax, truth=Maxwell.

Wiz Imp

(9,085 posts)
23. For the record, Giuffre was working at Mar-a-lago in 2000 (at age 16, not 17 as the article says)
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:02 PM
Jul 2025

when Maxwell came up to her while Giuffre was reading a book on massage therapy and Maxwell offered her a job with Epstein to give him massages. It is well know that Trump and Epstein continued to be close friends and socialize with tach other until at least 2004. Now Trump is claiming he "broke up" with Epstein over Epstein "stealing his employees". So why did he wait 4 years to do it after? Epstein & Trump remained close for 4 years after Giuffre was lured away from Mar-a-lago. This is a rather obvious lie on Trump's part.

SarcasticSatyr

(1,360 posts)
24. Translation: He was angry because he considered her "his" sexual property . . .
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:11 PM
Jul 2025

He's a POS rapist and pedophile.

Wiz Imp

(9,085 posts)
27. Uhm No.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:24 PM
Jul 2025
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/09/epstein-mar-a-lago-trump-1456221
The unsealed files don’t appear to include any allegation that Trump had sex with Giuffre or other women working for Epstein.

Giuffre also denied aspects of a reporter’s claim that she said: “Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey’s. He didn’t partake in any sex with any of us but he flirted with me. He’d laugh and tell Jeffrey, ‘you’ve got the life.’”

“’Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey’s.’ That part is true. ‘He didn’t partake in any’ of — any sex with any of us but he flirted with me.’ It’s true that he didn’t partake in any sex with us, but it’s not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me,” Giuffre clarified later.

underpants

(195,107 posts)
29. So, he knew her name? A locker room attendant? From how long ago?
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 07:31 PM
Jul 2025

25 years ago???

Giuffre met Epstein’s accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell, at Mar-a-Lago in 2000, she told the BBC, and she offered her an interview to train as a massage therapist. Giuffre was ultimately recruited and groomed by Maxwell and raped by Epstein on numerous occasions after being ostensibly hired as a “masseuse” by the pedophile.

underpants

(195,107 posts)
49. He was asked on AF1 and at first he said "I don't know..." but couldn't shut up
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 11:19 AM
Jul 2025

Then he confirmed that it was Virginia. Mind this was a 16 year old girl working at the spa as a summer job or at best part time 25 years ago and he remembers her.

Texin

(2,834 posts)
44. "Trump thought he owned a 17 year old girl."
Wed Jul 30, 2025, 08:00 AM
Jul 2025

"Owned" as in chattel property? Or "owned" as in his personal sex slave? The more he talks, the deeper the hole. Keeps digging.

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