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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 07:40 PM Dec 2012

Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama has signed into law a five-year extension of the U.S. government's authority to monitor the overseas activity of suspected foreign spies and terrorists.

The warrantless intercept program would have expired at the end of 2012 without the president's approval. The renewal bill won final passage in the Senate on Friday.

Known as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the law allows the government to monitor overseas phone calls and emails without obtaining a court order for each intercept.

The law does not apply to Americans. When Americans are targeted for surveillance, the government must get a warrant from a special 11-judge court of U.S. district judges appointed by the Supreme Court.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/30/obama-fisa-warrantless-wiretapping_n_2385690.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Dec 2012 OP
Nah, this won't be abused... NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #1
"When Americans are targeted for surveillance, the government must get a warrant". However... Melinda Dec 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Third Doctor Dec 2012 #3
American exceptionalism at its worst. MindPilot Dec 2012 #4
A shame. TomPaineintheBrain Dec 2012 #5
I heard SoapBox Dec 2012 #6
Senator Feinstein is up for reelection in 2018 Freddie Stubbs Dec 2012 #8
.. the bill says spying on Americans requires a warrant.... lib2DaBone Dec 2012 #7
Hey Mr. President: Gormy Cuss Dec 2012 #9
It's Just Like Old Times Again..ala "1984" triplepoint Dec 2012 #10
k/r historylovr Dec 2012 #11
I'll wait for a Republican to take office before I condemn this. Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #12
Pathetic pmorlan1 Dec 2012 #13
Even if Romney had won, Obama would still be President until January 20 Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #14

Melinda

(5,465 posts)
2. "When Americans are targeted for surveillance, the government must get a warrant". However...
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:07 PM
Dec 2012

when Americans on foreign soil are targeted for death by drones or other means, due process of law does not apply. In these instances, the 5th and 14th amendments to the US Constitution go out the window. Screw the Bill of Rights, and fuck any equal protection of the law.

That is all.

Response to Freddie Stubbs (Original post)

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
4. American exceptionalism at its worst.
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 08:40 PM
Dec 2012

"The law does not apply to Americans." Only Americans are protected--or led to believe they are protected--from the excesses of the US government. The rest o' y'all just aren't good enough to have rights respected by the USA.

This country really has lost its way.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
6. I heard
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:42 PM
Dec 2012

Dianne Feinstein yapping on the radio this morning how, there are processes and procedures that do not need to be made public, "at this time"...

blah, blah, blah.

She makes me sick...she's DINO and is a War Hawk.

We (as in California) need to replace her with a true Democrat, better yet, a Progressive.

 

lib2DaBone

(8,124 posts)
7. .. the bill says spying on Americans requires a warrant....
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 10:03 PM
Dec 2012

However... any committee oversight monitoring this process was conveniently deleted from the bill.

And of course...Obama signed it.. because he is a "Constitutional" scholar.

 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
10. It's Just Like Old Times Again..ala "1984"
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 01:26 AM
Dec 2012

http://www.bugbrother.com/echelon/spookwordsgenerator.html


Sample:

From: Michael_Miron@ita.doc.gov
To: info@opic.gov
Subj: COBEOWEHHO (CLASSIFIED - Russia)

George J. Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence (CIA), told North Korea Reconnaissance Bureau about Mayotte (Indian Ocean) frenchelon station : a cryptoanarchist sent EloAufkl (german Elektronische Aufklärung)`s web based CGI proxys & Anonymizers logs to Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA) a.k.a. Euzkadi Ta Askatasuna !

Ask 634th Military Intelligence`s contact of Vivendi Universal pollution Dpt via http://www.odci.gov/ic/ for Ref. Waihopai, INFOSEC, ASPIC, MI6, Information Security, SAI, Information Warfare.



---Post it all over the Net. Permanently monkey wrench Echelon altogether. It's the patriotic thing to do.
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Now, if you're REALLY interested in monkey wrenching the Blue Meanies, hack one of their domestic drones (30,000 strong in the near future):

Researchers use spoofing to 'hack' into a flying drone

American researchers took control of a flying drone by "hacking" into its GPS system - acting on a $1,000 (£640) dare from the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

A University of Texas at Austin team used "spoofing" - a technique where the drone mistakes the signal from hackers for the one sent from GPS satellites.

The same method may have been used to bring down a US drone in Iran in 2011.

Reference Link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18643134
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Obsession with National Security (#7 of "The 14 Characteristics of Fascism&quot :

"Inevitably, a national security apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting “national security,” and questioning its activities was portrayed as unpatriotic or even treasonous."
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*Reference Link:
"Fascism Anyone?" by Laurence W. Britt
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=britt_23_2
 

Bad_Ronald

(265 posts)
12. I'll wait for a Republican to take office before I condemn this.
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:41 AM
Dec 2012

I don''t want to violate the ToS again.

Hope & Change!

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
13. Pathetic
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:58 AM
Dec 2012

Gee, I'm so glad Romney didn't win. Why he might have signed this surveillance bill. We are so fortunate to have a Democrat in the WH. Yeah, right. Pathetic.

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