'It infuriates us': Veterans rage at 'abusive' Trump over reports of him stiffing soldiers

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: Raw Story

August 31, 2025 8:53AM ET


Donald Trump has reportedly gone out of his way to avoid paying national guard troops sent in to Washington, D.C., resulting in outrage from veterans. The reports started earlier in the summer that Trump was utilizing a loophole when deploying the national guard, and avoiding paying those individuals certain additional benefits. In June, Vote In Or Out reported that "Trump deployed National Guard troops on multiple 29-day orders—specifically choosing durations under 30 days to avoid paying full Basic Allowance for Housing Type 1 (BAH‑1)."

"Under Title 32 regulations, if orders run fewer than 30 days, members receive only the reduced 'BAH‑Type 2,' not full BAH‑1; full benefits begin only on day 31 and only apply from that point forward—not retroactively," the group wrote. "By repeatedly cycling short orders—ending them on day 29 and restarting on day 31—the administration saved roughly $2,500 per service member per month, based on differences between BAH‑Type 2 and BAH‑1."

Now, there are rumors circulating from veterans on Reddit and other social media that it's happening again. Early Sunday morning, military analyst WarMonitor reported, "White House put DC National Guard on 29-day orders... 1 day short of 30 needed for full housing and health benefits."

Ex-GOP lawmaker Adam Kinzinger, himself a veteran, also raised the issue on Sunday morning, writing, "So Trump put the national guard on 29 day orders?!" "Why does this matter: They don’t pay full housing allowance and no health insurance until 30 days," Kinzinger added. "What an abusive commander in chief. So Trump."

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[twodogsbarking]

1. If you thought Trump would help you, you need more help than you thought.

[UpInArms]

2. Well, I would certainly not want to

piss off the guys who are actually trained military members

[Deuxcents]

3. TSF is not smart enough to know about such loopholes, so who is responsible for this abuse?

[vapor2]

6. has to be one of his sycophants but not sure which sicko

[GP6971]

19. I'm sure WhiskeyPete is involved.

[MadameButterfly]

50. He's not smart enough either

Vance or Miller et al. have hired some people capable of pouring through all the regulations with orders to cut costs by any means possible (other than the obvious solution of not doing it at all)

[barbtries]

14. project 2025

miller, vought, and the like.

krasnov is doing next to none of the thinking going on at the WH these days.

[yardwork]

57. Trump never pays his bills.

I'm sure he told his minions not to pay for the troops and they found an excuse.

[BoRaGard]

4. "Ha ha. Suckers and losers. Ha ha." - Krasnov (r-Draft-Dodger/Felon/GolfCheat)

having a republicon draft dodger as the so-called commander-in-chief is an insult to every American who has served this nation.

Disgusting republicon lack of respect, honor and patriotism.

[Stargazer99]

31. This needs to be put on every TV station but since we worship capitalism and you owns the media they won't allow it to

be shown

[vapor2]

5. He has stiffed people his entire life

so maybe a wake up call for these vets

[Deuxcents]

8. Time to pack up and go home to their families and day jobs. We will support them if they need us

[PatSeg]

26. You'd think it was HIS money

I think he gets a thrill out of stiffing people even when it isn't his money.

[sheshe2]

46. Well, he sees it that way.

He is pocketing the difference and screwing our forces.

[sakabatou]

7. Hasn't he be known to stiff people for decades?

[mwmisses4289]

11. Yes.

Actually drove some mom and pop type businesses to bankruptcy.

[barbtries]

16. And at least one man to suicide.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchAgainstNazis/comments/1g2tv35/david_herring_talks_about_how_his_contractor/

need to go to reddit to see the video, it is worth it.

[mwmisses4289]

33. Oh, wow.

No words, except how incredibly sad.

[MadameButterfly]

51. Thisi should be an OP

[hildegaard28]

9. What did

They expect from a deadbeat? Guess they should have listened to Democrats.

[Jim__]

10. I do hope that he pisses the army off.

Go get 'em Trump, show 'em who's boss.

[Crowman2009]

15. I think he already pissed of the Marines with that L.A. BS.

You deprive a Marine of their weekend of booze, strip clubs, and maybe even gay bars; then you'll have a pissed off Marine. Especially if you stiff them on their pay.

[DFW]

12. Trump hiring people for services rendered and then not paying them

Where have we heard that before?

Oh, yeah, NOW I remember. Donald Trump used to do that all the time. What’s he up to these days, anyway?

These “patriots” expected something different? Somebody remind us all of the definition of insanity again…….

[Orrex]

13. Waiting for some principled National Guard troops to refuse these immoral orders

Waiting.

Waiting.

Waiting.

[paleotn]

23. Well, it's not like they're actually doing anything....

other than wandering around, seeing the sights. Now getting stiffed on housing and healthcare allowance for the privilege. A ginormous waste of everyone's time and money. And time away from their families and day jobs.

[3auld6phart]

17. D

Damn I wuld be totally pised alo. Christ some. S…TThat lump of steaming snail shit…

[Demobrat]

18. Because of course he did

If he can screw you he will. It’s who and what he is.

[JoseBalow]

20. Not paying people is what drumpf does best

because he's an asshole.

[chowder66]

21. I was just thinking about the $50k signing bonus. Are they going to stiff those guys or are they going to make them

work for his whole term for $50k?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

22. trump is stiffing our National Guardsmen

[underpants]

29. I read the story as him waiting a day and then reissuing on day 31

If I’m correct this is a “Hey guys, you’ve got a day off” type thing. The NCO or officer saying so might now be aware of the situation.

[GB_RN]

24. Stiffing People?!?!

Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent? The guy who made a career of stiffing people? And stiffing people he called losers?!?! Noooo! Let me find me shocked face…oh, wait.🙄

[AnnaLee]

27. SOB

I guess the critters are in favor of this tax break for the rich example. Make it up, one penny at a time off the lives of soldiers.

[watertiger]

28. He would throw our soldiers in a meat grinder, just like Putin does his

[LilElf70]

30. Ruthless

is an understatement. FAFO

[underpants]

32. Hey look, I'm paying them for yard work, I'm not paying for their housing

I read the story as him waiting a day and then reissuing on day 31

If I’m correct this is a “Hey guys, you’ve got a day off” type thing. The NCO or officer saying so might now be aware of the situation.

[Traildogbob]

34. Stiffing soldiers

But paying Pardoned convicted prisoner treasonous thugs $80,000+ with $50,000 signing and bonuses per capture.
With a budget most other countrie’s militaries would love to have, From OUR and those Military people’s Taxes. Trump and most of his cabinet do not pay taxes.
Plus he fired every highest ranking officer of each branch. Then had soldiers on their knees laying red carpet for the worlds worst murdering dictator, a known enemy of our nation.
While fucking the VA more every day. The draft dodging coward. How the fuck can any active or vet accept this shit? I for one despise this shit. Instead of thanking me for service tell me you will never vote for a Republican again, and you hate this piece of shit CIC, and Miller, and Hogsbreath.

[hatrack]

35. Semper FAFO!!!

Yeah, why pay Guard soldiers when you can fuck them, like every other organization or business you've ever worked with, you pustulent FUCK?

[ReRe]

36. Nobody knows how much I hate the SOBs running this country.

[sop]

47. I know.

I probably hate them more.

[Paladin]

37. Well, one thing about trump's attitude towards the military: it's consistent. (nt)

[usonian]

38. He has ALWAYS despised and mistreated soldiers and veterans.

Let me count the years.

[Martin68]

39. Trump is alienating a number of key demographics that have been supporting him. I think that's a good sign.

[synni]

40. BWA-HA-HA-HAAAAA!

That's what they get for doing his evil bidding. Those leopards are getting so fat, I'm sure they've all got diabetes by now.

[patphil]

41. 35 billion for ICE, but no housing allowance or health insurance for soldiers?

As usual, Trump shows his true colors when it comes to his ability to disrespect the military.

[MadameButterfly]

52. You would think he'd be taking care of men in arms he needs to prop him up

when he needs the military to have his way. I'm guessing this means he is writing off the National Guard and expecting ICE to defend him when the fighting starts?

I do hope he will manage to screw the army, the navy, and ICE too. That would be our salvation. Unlikely, but nothing has been likely so far, and he might be that stupid.

[patphil]

58. He has a casual disregard for anything that doesn't immediately gratify or enrich him.

Add to that his steady mental decline and long history of disdain for the military, and this becomes quite the normal thing for him. Besides, he sees them as just pawns in his power game.
Why should he spend "his" money on them.

Note: I'm sure he feels that all the government's money is his money.

[NBachers]

42. What will it take for "Always Vote Democrat" to penetrate the "Republicans are stronger on Deefence" crowd?

[travelingthrulife]

55. Nothing penetrates. Every single time GOP is in control,

they blow up the budget, increase the debt by billions, and everyone marvels at their fiscal discipline.

[oasis]

43. The "Stiffing Grifter" strikes again.

Not what you signed up for eh?

[BoRaGard]

49. #StiffingGrifter (r) now going viral

[Bayard]

44. He really does think they are suckers

I guess they get court martialed if they walk off the job.

[cstanleytech]

45. Well any of them that voted or supported Trump are reaping their reward 🎻

The ones that didn't support Trump in any way are the only ones I feel sympathy for.

[BoRaGard]

48. Sooner or later, G.O.P. golf cheat suckers everyone

repubes are fine with this.. So unpatriotic.

[Vthestate]

53. what would a Veterans (plus national guard) uprising look like?

We have been worn down and the cruel and greedy has become common place. The outrage coupled with the feeling
of no recourse has built a sense of complacency .....what would a Veterans (plus national guard) uprising look like?

[mucifer]

54. Putin taught him that

[mjvpi]

56. "Suckers and losers." Even if they don't die.

[quakerboy]

59. They are supposed to take the spoils of war

Just like pretty much every invading army through history.

[Montauk6]

60. Isn't it too early for BAH-Humbug?

[DiamondShark]

61. Sounds like a change is in order.

First make it retroactive. Second change the wording to be any 15 days worked in a 30 day period, any 10 days worked in a 30 day period can be done as well.

[EndlessWire]

62. I wouldn't forget about this, would you?

I'd publicize this until all members of the military branches know of this cheating of benefits. The Orange Pedophile can't maintain his dictatorship without the military. He totally disrespects the military. But, he'll need them to maintain his rule. He has weakened his control of them.

You don't do this if you want something from someone. You don't say, "Work harder for me, and I'll give you less." Right now, they are recruiting ICE to be his personal army, and offering huge sums of money to them. I doubt they'll ever see those rewards, but clearly, they are placed above our standing National Guard.

So, the best thing is to tell all the military what he has done. The rank and file should know this.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

63. trump was famous for not paying his contractors. Now, this unscrupulous cretin is short-changing the National Guard.

I was part of the Clinton Victory Counsel program and was on the team that reviewed 6,000+ trump lawsuits. A few of the lawsuits that I reviewed were trump stiffing contractors. trump is up to his old tricks

Back when Donald was a failure in real estate, he was famous for not paying his contractors. He would come up with fictional fault in their work as an excuse not to pay them. Now, this unscrupulous cretin is short-changing the National Guard.
www.rawstory.com/trump-infuri...

— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2025-09-01T19:40:29.226Z

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-infuriating-29-day-orders/

Donald Trump has reportedly gone out of his way to avoid paying national guard troops sent in to Washington, D.C., resulting in outrage from veterans.

The reports started earlier in the summer that Trump was utilizing a loophole when deploying the national guard, and avoiding paying those individuals certain additional benefits. In June, Vote In Or Out reported that "Trump deployed National Guard troops on multiple 29-day orders—specifically choosing durations under 30 days to avoid paying full Basic Allowance for Housing Type 1 (BAH‑1)."

"Under Title 32 regulations, if orders run fewer than 30 days, members receive only the reduced 'BAH‑Type 2,' not full BAH‑1; full benefits begin only on day 31 and only apply from that point forward—not retroactively," the group wrote. "By repeatedly cycling short orders—ending them on day 29 and restarting on day 31—the administration saved roughly $2,500 per service member per month, based on differences between BAH‑Type 2 and BAH‑1.".....

"Why does this matter: They don’t pay full housing allowance and no health insurance until 30 days," Kinzinger added. "What an abusive commander in chief. So Trump."

A self-identified veteran replied to Kinzinger, writing, "I’m an ex-Military guy too, and we all know this is the kind of BS thing that infuriates us."

"We swear an oath to the Constitution, not a man - and when a mere man abuses his power this way, we have every right to refuse an order we think is illegal," wrote the user, @EpicJourneyMan1. They added, "Before he pisses us off!"

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

64. trump is stiffing and cheating our national guard personnel

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