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riversedge

(79,577 posts)
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:33 AM Sep 2025

Massie: Trump 'may be covering for some rich and powerful people' in Epstein files

Source: the hill



by Tara Suter - 09/03/25 8:14 AM ET

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) late Tuesday said President Trump “may be covering for some rich and powerful people,” as the lawmaker pushes for more transparency in the case of convicted sex offender and late financier Jeffrey Epstein.


“I think the best way to clear President Trump’s name is to release all the files,” Massie told MSNBC’s “All In” host Chris Hayes. “I actually don’t think he’s done anything criminal; I think he may be covering for some rich and powerful people that are friends of his. And in fact, some of those billionaires are running ads against me in Kentucky right now.”

“One of them is in Epstein’s black book. So, we’re, you know, we’re getting close to the center of power here,” he continued in the clip, highlighted by Mediaite. “And I think, you know, embarrassment is not a reason to conceal all of this stuff.”.............







Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5483247-massie-trump-epstein-files/

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Massie: Trump 'may be covering for some rich and powerful people' in Epstein files (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2025 OP
May be covering? EYESORE 9001 Sep 2025 #1
He is covering for no one but himself. gab13by13 Sep 2025 #5
Okee dokee EYESORE 9001 Sep 2025 #6
True leftieNanner Sep 2025 #28
That is 100% correct. trump doesn't care if everyone else falls, he las no loyalty to anyone but himself, so NO Escurumbele Sep 2025 #39
And you can bet, if there were as many high roller democrats in that slightlv Sep 2025 #45
And How Rarely Do We Hear of a Liberal/Progressive Making (OK, for The Roux Comes First Sep 2025 #52
Yep... With the price for a great escort being around $3,000 and the over night part adding in an additional $10,000, LiberalArkie Sep 2025 #11
Like himself Mz Pip Sep 2025 #2
... UpInArms Sep 2025 #3
Another BS article from The Hill gab13by13 Sep 2025 #4
Like himself? His wife? Autumn Sep 2025 #7
His donors Bayard Sep 2025 #16
He doesn't care about his donors. He's protecting himself. Autumn Sep 2025 #18
That too Bayard Sep 2025 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Sep 2025 #20
For someone claiming innocence or that the whole thing is all a "Democrat hoax" I'll just paraphrase... the nelm Sep 2025 #47
Oh. The people he gives awards to. bucolic_frolic Sep 2025 #8
If it was working class people going to markodochartaigh Sep 2025 #9
If they are rich and powerful why would they care? Like, if they are, who can touch them? They will still have their Srkdqltr Sep 2025 #10
Epstein's pedophelia ring was likely a vast international kompromat effort, probably backed by foreign sop Sep 2025 #12
This is alluded to in Michael Wolff's books... slightlv Sep 2025 #46
Let's not be fooled, Rep. Thomas Massie has his own angle on this story FakeNoose Sep 2025 #13
Ruh roh. twodogsbarking Sep 2025 #14
What a guy, taking a huge political hit to protect his friends William Seger Sep 2025 #15
Yeah, himself. choie Sep 2025 #17
Massie, I'm betting he is trying to cover his own ass. republianmushroom Sep 2025 #21
Massie wouldn't do this unless he thought it would benefit him in some way. patphil Sep 2025 #22
I suspect Massie knows that trump's guilty as hell, 70sEraVet Sep 2025 #23
"I actually don't think he's done anything criminal" Rob H. Sep 2025 #24
Yeah, that caught my attention, too not fooled Sep 2025 #25
What credibility? mwmisses4289 Sep 2025 #29
"covering for some rich and powerful people that are friends of his" - Aiding and abetting isn't a crime?? Beartracks Sep 2025 #26
Trump only protects or enriches himself. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #27
No kidding popsdenver Sep 2025 #40
I think Putin already has the list. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #42
Maybe the terse meeting popsdenver Sep 2025 #43
Yes quite possible. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #44
Hans? underpants Sep 2025 #30
Duh Deep State Witch Sep 2025 #31
Uh YEAH Faux pas Sep 2025 #32
Like himself Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2025 #33
Don't forget popsdenver Sep 2025 #41
d'oh BoRaGard Sep 2025 #34
donors Evolve Dammit Sep 2025 #35
Massie is a fucking idiot if he genuinely thinks Trump isn't in there and he's doing this just to protect his old Karasu Sep 2025 #36
Unless he could get a great payoff from them? Yoyoyo77 Sep 2025 #48
Maybe it's Maybelline Blue Owl Sep 2025 #37
Since when did the Orange Rapist/Pedifile nwduke Sep 2025 #38
If it's not because he's in them, then it's because he's needs to get something out of them $$$. ToxMarz Sep 2025 #49
Release the Pedogate file already! Aussie105 Sep 2025 #50
Now, Please Bow Your Heads, and Open Your Prayer Books to the Epstein Client List MrWowWow Sep 2025 #51
Two things to check Snoopy 7 Sep 2025 #53
Michael Wolff says Epstein show him polaroids of Trump with topless young girls on his lap. mackdaddy Sep 2025 #54

leftieNanner

(16,118 posts)
28. True
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:06 PM
Sep 2025

But I heard massive say the same thing on Chris Hayes last night.

The Goon is probably protecting others, but mostly himself.

Escurumbele

(4,025 posts)
39. That is 100% correct. trump doesn't care if everyone else falls, he las no loyalty to anyone but himself, so NO
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:01 PM
Sep 2025

he is not covering for anyone but himself.

slightlv

(7,447 posts)
45. And you can bet, if there were as many high roller democrats in that
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:16 PM
Sep 2025

info as the right tries to scream about, trump would have unleashed the files a long time ago. Nope. Don't believe it. The files contain HIS name on every page, each description of sexual abuse is exampled by him, and his list of movers and shakers in the repug world are overly represented. How many times do you hear about a dem arrested for pedophilia, vs a repug... or a right wing preacher?

The Roux Comes First

(2,167 posts)
52. And How Rarely Do We Hear of a Liberal/Progressive Making (OK, for
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:21 PM
Sep 2025

Sex-abuse claims about their opponents?!

LiberalArkie

(19,342 posts)
11. Yep... With the price for a great escort being around $3,000 and the over night part adding in an additional $10,000,
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:00 AM
Sep 2025

I wonder how much the island costs? Add in how much more the underage part cost the John? And at a protected resort?

I would figure that at Epstein's price would be cheaper with the Russians picking up the tab for a bit of it because of the cameras and all, but still I can't imagine a normal person, even a CEO would ever be invited there.

gab13by13

(31,330 posts)
4. Another BS article from The Hill
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:39 AM
Sep 2025

The rag that John Solomon wrote article after article about the stolen 2020 election.

When in the world would Krasnov care about anyone but himself?

The notion that Krasnov doesn't want to release the Epstein files is because it would hurt powerful people is laughable and is a right wing talking point.

Krasnov doesn't want those files released because it would show the world the pedophile that he is.

Response to Autumn (Reply #18)

the nelm

(245 posts)
47. For someone claiming innocence or that the whole thing is all a "Democrat hoax" I'll just paraphrase...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:36 PM
Sep 2025

Shakespeare. "Methinks he dost protest too much". (And he apparently never learned the lesson from the Nixon years. The coverup can be worse than the crime. Unless, of course, it turns out that he is, in fact, in it up to his eyeballs.)

markodochartaigh

(5,066 posts)
9. If it was working class people going to
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:54 AM
Sep 2025

Epstein's island the full list would have been available on day one.
Of course it is rich and powerful people.

Srkdqltr

(9,399 posts)
10. If they are rich and powerful why would they care? Like, if they are, who can touch them? They will still have their
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 08:57 AM
Sep 2025

money. and power.

sop

(17,557 posts)
12. Epstein's pedophelia ring was likely a vast international kompromat effort, probably backed by foreign
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:04 AM
Sep 2025

intelligence agencies, maybe even domestic ones. It's pretty clear Trump was somehow involved. Ripping the lid off and exposing all the sleazy details of Epstein's sex-with-underage-girls-blackmail operation will seriously damage a lot of people. That's a good thing.

slightlv

(7,447 posts)
46. This is alluded to in Michael Wolff's books...
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:18 PM
Sep 2025

and it makes the most logical sense when all the players (and possible players) are considered.

FakeNoose

(40,288 posts)
13. Let's not be fooled, Rep. Thomas Massie has his own angle on this story
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:06 AM
Sep 2025
"... And in fact, some of those billionaires are running ads against me in Kentucky right now.”


This strategy might come back and bite him on the butt. Or maybe not ... if Chump is too busy putting out fires to notice.

William Seger

(12,226 posts)
15. What a guy, taking a huge political hit to protect his friends
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 09:46 AM
Sep 2025
Yeah, that's our favorite malignant narcissist, alright.

republianmushroom

(22,124 posts)
21. Massie, I'm betting he is trying to cover his own ass.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:30 AM
Sep 2025

He could care less about anybody else ass except for his.

Massie, how dumb are you ?

patphil

(8,736 posts)
22. Massie wouldn't do this unless he thought it would benefit him in some way.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:18 AM
Sep 2025

He's been in the House since January of 2013. Why this big push now?
I don't think he's worried about his seat in the House; he won by a huge margin in the last 2 elections. He sees Trump as weak on this issue, and isn't worried about a primary challenge.
My guess is he has political ambitions beyond the House.

70sEraVet

(5,260 posts)
23. I suspect Massie knows that trump's guilty as hell,
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:22 PM
Sep 2025

But he's got to play for his voting base. His base wants the release of the Epstein files, but they are convinced that the files will not reveal any wrong-doing by the Tangerine Traitor.

Rob H.

(5,788 posts)
24. "I actually don't think he's done anything criminal"
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:43 PM
Sep 2025

Based on Trump's thus far sterling reputation, or...?

not fooled

(6,608 posts)
25. Yeah, that caught my attention, too
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 12:59 PM
Sep 2025

"I actually don't think he's done anything criminal"



Geez, how dumb does he think we are? His credibility just vanished.


Beartracks

(14,387 posts)
26. "covering for some rich and powerful people that are friends of his" - Aiding and abetting isn't a crime??
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:04 PM
Sep 2025

I don't think covering up for pedophiles is part of the President's official business, so it's still wrong even when the President does it.

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Irish_Dem

(80,000 posts)
27. Trump only protects or enriches himself.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:04 PM
Sep 2025

If he is protecting others they have paid him well for it.

popsdenver

(1,618 posts)
40. No kidding
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:27 PM
Sep 2025

Trump already has the entire client list and all of the evidence, and is planning on his largest grift ever........Black mailing all of Epstein's clients.........

Maybe that was the reason for the Alaska meeting........Putin was demanding half and wanted to tell Trump in person.......

Irish_Dem

(80,000 posts)
42. I think Putin already has the list.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:44 PM
Sep 2025

I think Putin was involved with Epstein, there is a Russian connection.

Putin is already involved in sex and drug trafficking.

popsdenver

(1,618 posts)
43. Maybe the terse meeting
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:49 PM
Sep 2025

in Alaska, was Putin telling Trump to not horn in on HIS blackmailing the clients........( Actually, Trump called it repeatedly, "the meeting in RUSSIA&quot

Irish_Dem

(80,000 posts)
44. Yes quite possible.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 05:01 PM
Sep 2025

Trump wanted a cut of the profits.
And more info on the blackmail.

Putin blackmail might be a reason why all the billionaires, congress, courts, judges, corporations, etc
have folded like lawn chairs giving Trump and Putin what they want. Were many of them
ensnared in Putin's trap?

Putin is an old KGB agent. He knows how to run this kind of operation.

Deep State Witch

(12,594 posts)
31. Duh
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 01:12 PM
Sep 2025

That's the whole point of this. We know he was in thick with Epstein. The question is, who else was a client? Putin? Netanyahu? MBS?

popsdenver

(1,618 posts)
41. Don't forget
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 04:31 PM
Sep 2025

that Rush Limbaugh was running similar jet junkets to Thailand, etc, with the CEO's, Politicians, and UBER rich.....

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
36. Massie is a fucking idiot if he genuinely thinks Trump isn't in there and he's doing this just to protect his old
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 02:46 PM
Sep 2025

friends...all of whom he'd gladly throw under the bus without a second thought if it came down to them or him.

nwduke

(486 posts)
38. Since when did the Orange Rapist/Pedifile
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 03:53 PM
Sep 2025

care about anyone but himself! He’s runner scared and looking more and more guilty as he continues to hide and obstruct and use his favorite word for getting busted “hoax”!

ToxMarz

(2,765 posts)
49. If it's not because he's in them, then it's because he's needs to get something out of them $$$.
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 07:14 PM
Sep 2025

Either pay me to keep them under wraps, or pay me to release them. Everything is a grift.

Aussie105

(7,660 posts)
50. Release the Pedogate file already!
Wed Sep 3, 2025, 11:09 PM
Sep 2025

The one the victims (aka eyewitnesses) are compiling.

Then we will know who Trump is protecting. Hs own ass or others?

Snoopy 7

(720 posts)
53. Two things to check
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 05:43 AM
Sep 2025

There are two thing to check to verify trumps involvement with epstine crimes. One the rich should be dumping millions into trumps crypto (aka bribery). Second why isn't anyone looking at the epstine's actual handler, ISRAEL, they are the ones who used epstine as a spy. Therefore, they knew of the child abuse and condoned the abuse of children, don't forget prince charles's payoff of £12m to survivor Virginia Giuffre. The Israelis were blackmailing some very powerful leaders of this world.

mackdaddy

(1,948 posts)
54. Michael Wolff says Epstein show him polaroids of Trump with topless young girls on his lap.
Thu Sep 4, 2025, 06:51 AM
Sep 2025

And I would not be surprised if there is not tapes of Trump with young girls as in the Katy Johnson complaints.

Trump is protecting himself.

He probably did not realize how much and how bad what Epstein has really was. And, this is the first real thing that would seriously chunk at his base. MTG is not following lockstep for god's sake.

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