Trump ally Charlie Kirk fatally shot in Utah as 'person of interest' in custody

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Source: The Guardian

Wed 10 Sep 2025 18.48 EDT
First published on Wed 10 Sep 2025 14.45 EDT


Charlie Kirk, the powerful rightwing activist, Trump ally and executive director of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), was killed on Wednesday afternoon, shot in the neck while speaking at a university campus event in Utah.

In video posts circulating on social media, Kirk, 31, can be seen being struck by a bullet while speaking and sitting beneath a tent in the Utah Valley University (UVU) courtyard in Orem, Utah. Kirk was there as part of The American Comeback Tour, which is hosted by the TPUSA chapter at UVU. Video footage also shows students on campus running away from the sound of gunfire. In a post on X on Wednesday afternoon, the university said the campus was closed.

After initial reports that a suspect had been apprehended, this turned out not to be the case shortly afterwards and then, around four hours after the incident, the FBI director, Kash Patel, posted on X that “the subject for the horrific shooting today that took the life of Charlie Kirk is now in custody.”

At a press conference shortly after, Utah governor Spencer Cox, a Republican, added that law enforcement had “a person of interest” in custody who was being interviewed. The authorities did not reveal a name.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/10/charlie-kirk-shot-utah

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Trump ally Charlie Kirk fatally shot during event at Utah Valley University

Wed 10 Sep 2025 16.46 EDT
First published on Wed 10 Sep 2025 14.45 EDT


Charlie Kirk, the powerful rightwing activist, Trump ally and executive director of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), has died after being shot in the neck on Wednesday while speaking at a university campus event in Utah.

In video posts circulating on social media, Kirk, 31, can be seen being struck by a bullet while speaking and sitting beneath a tent in the Utah Valley University (UVU) courtyard in Orem, Utah. Kirk was there as part of The American Comeback Tour, which is hosted by the TPUSA chapter at UVU. Video footage also shows students on campus running away from the sound of gunfire.

In a post on X on Wednesday afternoon, the university said the campus was closed. A spokesperson for Utah Valley University told the New York Times that Kirk was struck by a suspect who had fired from a building about 200 yards away. Ellen Treanor, a university spokesperson, said: "A suspect was in custody, but they are no longer a suspect." There is no suspect in custody. "The incident is currently being investigated by four agencies: Orem police, UVU police, FBI and Utah department of public safety," Treanor added.

In an internal email to staff members that was posted online on Wednesday evening, the Turning Point USA COO, Justin Streiff, said: "It is with a heavy heart that we, the Turning Point USA leadership team, write to notify you that earlier this afternoon Charlie went to his eternal reward with Jesus Christ in Heaven ... However, in the meantime, Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action will be closed for business until Monday, the 15th - likely longer."

Trump says Charlie Kirk shot dead during event at Utah Valley University

Wed 10 Sep 2025 16.46 EDT
First published on Wed 10 Sep 2025 14.45 EDT


Charlie Kirk, the powerful rightwing activist, Trump ally and executive director of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), has died after being shot in the neck on Wednesday while speaking at a university campus event in Utah, president Donald Trump has confirmed.

"The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!" Trump wrote on Truth Social on Wednesday evening.

In video posts circulating on social media, Kirk can be seen being struck by a bullet while speaking and sitting beneath a tent in the Utah Valley University courtyard. Kirk was there as part of The American Comeback Tour, which is hosted by the TPUSA chapter at Utah Valley. Video footage also shows students on campus running away from the sound of gunfire.

A law enforcement official told the Associated Press that Kirk was in critical condition at a hospital. A TPUSA official told CBS of Kirk that "it doesn't look good" and confirmed he was shot in the neck.

Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot during event at Utah Valley University

Wed 10 Sep 2025 15.56 EDT
First published on Wed 10 Sep 2025 14.45 EDT


Charlie Kirk, the powerful rightwing activist, Trump ally and executive director of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), was shot on Wednesday while hosting an event in Utah and is in critical condition at a hospital.

In video posts circulating on social media, Kirk can be seen getting struck while speaking and sitting beneath a tent in the Utah Valley University courtyard. Kirk was there as part of The American Comeback Tour, which is hosted by the TPUSA chapter at Utah Valley. There is also video footage of students on campus running away from the sound of gunshots.

A law enforcement official told the Associated Press that Kirk is in critical condition at a hospital. A TPUSA official told CBS of Kirk that "it doesn't look good" and confirmed he was shot in the neck.

In a post on X on Wednesday afternoon, the university said: "UVU campus is closed. Classes cancelled. Those on campus, secure in place until police officers can escort you safely off campus. We ask for your patience throughout this process. We are providing updates as best as possible. This is an ongoing and unfolding event." A spokeswoman for Utah Valley University told the Times that Kirk was struck by a suspect who had fired from a building about 200 yards away. There is no suspect in custody.

Wed 10 Sep 2025 15.51 EDT
First published on Wed 10 Sep 2025 14.45 EDT


Charlie Kirk, the powerful rightwing activist, Trump ally and executive director of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), has been shot on Wednesday while hosting an event in Utah.

In video posts circulating on social media, Kirk can be seen getting struck while speaking and sitting beneath a tent in the Utah Valley University courtyard. Kirk was there as part of The American Comeback Tour, which is hosted by the TPUSA chapter at Utah Valley. There is also video footage of students on campus running away from the sound of gunshots.

"Today at about 12.10 a shot was fired at the visiting speaker, Charlie Kirk," the university said in a statement. "He was hit and taken from the location by his security. Campus police is investigating, a suspect is in custody." The school added that the campus has been closed and that classes are canceled until further notice. "Police are investigating," the university added. "Leave campus immediately."

A spokeswoman for Utah Valley University told the Times that Kirk was struck by a suspect who had fired from a building about 200 yards away and that the suspect was not a student.

Charlie Kirk apparently shot during debate at Utah university

Wed 10 Sep 2025 14.57 EDT
First published on Wed 10 Sep 2025 14.45 EDT


Charlie Kirk, the powerful rightwing activist and executive director of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), has been shot on Wednesday while hosting an event in Utah.

In video posts circulating on social media, Kirk can be seen getting struck while speaking and sitting beneath a tent in the Utah Valley University courtyard. Kirk was there as part of The American Comeback Tour, which is hosted by the TPUSA chapter at Utah Valley. There is also video footage of students on campus running away from the sound of gunshots.

The TPUSA press team confirmed to Fox News that Kirk had been shot, but that his condition was unknown.

Mike Lee, a Utah senator, posted on X shortly after reports broke that Kirk had been shot to say he is "tracking the situation at Utah Valley University closely. Please join me in praying for Charlie Kirk and the students gathered there." Ashley Moody, another Utah senator, also posted on X to say her "office is monitoring the situation at Utah Valley University. I pray for Charlie Kirk, the students, and this nation." A spokesperson with Utah Valley University police confirmed to the Guardian that shots were fired on campus.

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Wed 10 Sep 2025 14.45 EDT
Last modified on Wed 10 Sep 2025 14.50 EDT


Charlie Kirk, the powerful rightwing activist and executive director of Turning Point USA (TPUSA), appeared to have been shot on Wednesday while hosting a debate in Utah.

In video posts circulating on social media, Kirk can be seen getting struck while speaking and sitting beneath a tent in the Utah Valley University courtyard. Kirk was there as part of The American Comeback Tour, which is hosted by the TPUSA chapter at Utah Valley. There is also video footage of students on campus running away from the sound of gun shots.

Mike Lee, a Utah senator, posted on X shortly after reports broke that Kirk had been shot to say he is "tracking the situation at Utah Valley University closely. Please join me in praying for Charlie Kirk and the students gathered there."

A spokesperson with Utah Valley University police confirmed to the Guardian that shots were fired on campus.

More details soon ...

[FakeNoose]

1. Was he really shot ... or was he "Chumpy" shot?

Asking for a friend....

[BoRaGard]

10. Guess I'll start ignoring the G.O.P. Epstein pedophila problem

[JustAnotherGen]

84. Yeah - for now

We start back up at 4:00 PM today. Take a moment to rest - then lets get back out there and attack the pedo protection party.

[Dem_in_Nebr.]

162. Does GOP

Stand for Gnarly Old Pedo?
Asking for a friend. . .

[JustAnotherGen]

248. magapubs

Hate it when you call them pedos.

[DoBW]

133. "Wow, nothing's working on this Epstein mess" ...

"Hey, people any ideas?"

[Clouds Passing]

250. They did have that dinner meeting last night minus CK 🤔

Was Kirk a release the trumpstein files guy?

[LoveSucky]

42. There's up close video. If he ain't dead I'll be shocked.

[Callie1979]

235. Yes, he has died. nt

[barbtries]

61. thank you

my exact same first thought. the next one was am I supposed to feel bad about this.

[mcar]

2. Another source

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-shot/

Thoughts and prayers.

[RockRaven]

3. Temu Butler stunt?

[orangecrush]

80. Nope

[OnlinePoker]

4. At 2:51, someone (not suspect) in custody

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Shot from 200 yards away.

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-republican-shot-utah-valley-live-updates-2127895

Edit to clarify suspect not arrested.

[JI7]

20. The older bald white hair guy ?

[Mr.WeRP]

43. There is close up video at this link. Don't think he survived. Extreme graphic warning

https://www.reddit.com/r/CharlieKirkSupporters/s/FIxWznYQrh

[LeftInTX]

48. Yikes!

[OnlinePoker]

60. Yes, that's the one I saw on X.

I didn't want to post because of the graphic nature and I agree he' unlikely to have survived.

[barbtries]

65. we'll soon know

if he died. according to him, his death is worth it to keep the Second Amendment.

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113

[llmart]

178. Good find.

Live by the gun, die by the gun.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

"You can take my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands." (Quote from Charleton Heston)

[otchmoson]

264. My 2-cents:

Words have consequences.

[quakerboy]

196. except

Id bet money this will be used to bring targeted gun control

[Chemical Bill]

236. Yeah, liberal protestors. n/t

[Bengus81]

261. Tots and pears...now EPSTEIN EPSTEIN EPSTEIN

[MissB]

72. yeah that doesn't seem survivable in any way, but I'm not a doctor

So what do I really know.

Still, I won't be surprised when it is announced that he is dead.

[Queso Delicioso]

88. I mean, you kinda need your carotid artery

[MissB]

92. I suppose so

I read some of the comments at the. link to the video. Not sure they're anymore of an expert than any of us, but the consensus appears to be not survivable. Brutal video.

[quakerboy]

215. you've got redundancy, two of them

Its not ideal, but my understanding is most mamnals can get by with one.

The bigger issue is you need blood inside your body. And an open carotid is a quick way for it to all exit.

[Queso Delicioso]

243. On the plus side...

it'll get rid of any problems you have with high blood pressure!

[orangecrush]

79. Holy fuck

[LeftInTX]

83. Looks like they got the aorta. (Actually got the carotid or jugular, but leaving it up since I already got replies)

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He was shot in the neck, so it wasn't the aorta. I based it on where I saw the large amount of blood what appeared to be gushing out from the chest, but when I froze the frame, the bleeding started at the neck.

[orangecrush]

99. Hopefully he didn't suffer

Shit is sliding out of control, and I hope the country can pull back from the edge of the cliff.

[LeftInTX]

112. I froze the video. It looks like the neck. At first, I thought he was shot in chest due to the location of the blood.

[orangecrush]

121. Reddit took it down already.

Looks like it was instant lights out.

[Moostache]

122. Welcome back to 1968...

Charlie Kirk is infinitely less important than Martin or Bobby...
All I can say to his family is I guess that price for the unfettered 2nd ammendment was more costly than anticipated.

Tots and Pears.

[joshcryer]

167. He is instantly lights out. I don't think he even registered it.

[Attilatheblond]

120. more like the carotid artery, the one that is along side of neck and feeds the brain

If that old guy is the shooter, and hit from 200 feet, he's one helluva shot.

[LeftInTX]

135. I agree. I froze the video. At first I thought it was the aorta because of the location of the blood

[Mr.WeRP]

155. I am military marksman rated, not even sharp shooter

You need to hit a small target from 400 yards to get marksman.

[Mr.WeRP]

153. It was his neck, likely jugular... loss of blood to the brain

Large and immediate. Would take a world class triage team on site to save someone with that injury and it likely severed his spinal cord.

[markodochartaigh]

233. Aorta is in the chest/abdomen.

In the neck there is the jugular vein which would have dark blood and the carotid artery which would have bright blood. Obviously a bullet could sever both jugular and carotid.

[LeftInTX]

234. I know. I was wrong. I was basing on the blood spewing out, but the blood was pumping downward.

[lapfog_1]

86. it would take a expert trauma team right on the spot

to save him from that.

[likesmountains 52]

177. Not enough O- anywhere to save him. I believe he bled out in minutes

[angrychair]

93. No way he survived that

I don't believe in violence but the guy made a life of spreading hate and fear so while I condemn violence I can also not be surprised when it happens to people like him.

[3Hotdogs]

150. Dunno. I'm offering lots'a pears.

[WiVoter]

102. OMG

Charlie Kirk or not, that's horrible. I don't see how that survivable.

[orangecrush]

104. They took it down

[WiVoter]

110. Reddit Just Removed It

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But I saw it. Terrible

[Bev54]

111. It has been pulled by Reddit

[LeftInTX]

134. I recorded it.

[JoseBalow]

124. Login required

[Bernardo de La Paz]

151. I'm seeing report say blood is AI. I haven't looked and I'm not going to. I'll let written postings sort it out. . nt

[Mr.WeRP]

266. That report was prob written by AI

The video I saw was from someone at the event and it was as real as it gets.

[NickB79]

163. Yeah, a neck shot from 200 yd implies a rifle cartridge was used

And even at 200 yd, a 5.56mm or .308 carries 3-5 times more energy on impact than a 9mm does point blank.

[underpants]

183. Nope

No suspect in custody, university says

Authorities do not have a suspect in custody, according to Utah Valley University spokesperson Ellen Treanor.

The school had said earlier in an alert that police had detained a suspect.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/live-updates-shooting-charlie-kirk-event-utah-rcna230437

[Cha]

226. Charlie Kirk, a prominent conservative activist and Trump ally, dies after shooting at Utah campus event

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/10/politics/charlie-kirk-obituary

[Callie1979]

237. Apparently NOT the shooter. NO suspect in custody.

[Jilly_in_VA]

5. Tots and pears for Charlie

About all he deserves.

[Attilatheblond]

96. Isn't he the entitled whiner white guy who said "I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage"

I will save my empathy for those who haven't made bank on trying to destroy civil society.

Tots in the freezer. Pears now added to my shopping list.

[gopiscrap]

195. that fucker doesn't even deserve that

hope he survives as a mute paralytic

[Ocelot II]

6. Thoughts 'n' prayers.

Sorry, that’s all I’ve got.

[LeftInTX]

7. Will he be sporting a Kotex?

[Attilatheblond]

100. After watching the video: I doubt it very much

If he survived that, it was all special effects and a big bag of stunt blood.

[QueerDuck]

192. I'm sure the mortician will be able to fix it right up with wax and spackle. Nobody will even notice.

[Ponietz]

34. Fuck that

[The Grand Illuminist]

87. Again, war is hell.

nt

[Ponietz]

199. That's why you used a clap emoji!

SMDH

[JustAnotherGen]

90. Probably

[KS Toronado]

144. You know they will, it's in their DNA

I hope like hell it was an unhinged MAGAt.

[TexasBushwhacker]

145. In Utah! Not likely n/t

[Duppers]

154. GUN RIGHTS,

Gun rights❗

What's that old bible verse?: "What you sow, you shall reap."

[Farmer-Rick]

204. Musk just claimed Democrats are the party of murder

As if Nazi like him never killed anyone....

We fought WWII to be rid of all these Nazis. Many a good American patriot were murdered by the likes of Nazis like Musk.

[Bengus81]

263. Atta boy Musk...that statement will improve sales of Tesla

FUCK OFF YOU POS...............

[Dulcinea]

11. What, no good guy with a gun?

That solves everything, right? Right??

[JustAnotherGen]

12. It is what it is

[MrWowWow]

13. Reminds Me of When George Wallace Was Shot

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That was my first thought after reading this news.

Reference Info:

George Wallace, the segregationist governor of Alabama, was shot on May 15, 1972, during a campaign stop in Laurel, Maryland. The shooter, Arthur Herman Bremer, was caught immediately at the scene.

Bremer was convicted of attempted murder and sentenced to 63 years in prison, later reduced to 53. He served 35 years and was released on parole in 2007.

Wallace Quote:

"I draw the line in the dust and toss the gauntlet before the feet of tyranny, and I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.'

[Probatim]

14. Thoughts and prayers to good ole' Chuck.

Anyway, what's for dinner?

[Mark.b2]

15. The vid showed up on my X feed...

I’ll be surprised if he lived. Looked very bad.

[joshcryer]

26. I saw the close up video, he is 100% dead.

He death poses and everything. It simply isn't survivable.

[EarthFirst]

16. Meh.

This is the reality he openly advocates for…

[joshcryer]

31. Charlie Kirk: "It's worth to have [...] some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the 2nd Amendment."

Talk about becoming a statistic you argued for...

[EarthFirst]

62. Yup.

Carry on; Charlie…

[AZJonnie]

74. Looked up the actual quote

Charlie Kirk said:

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."

Tough luck, kid.

[joshcryer]

82. So sorry, I thought I posted the link, here's the link for prosperity:

https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-its-worth-have-cost-unfortunately-some-gun-deaths-every-single-year-so-we

They blew his neck open, pretty gruesome way to be remembered.

[OMGWTF]

131. Hoist, meet petard.

[Mtnmama]

142. And what about when the victims are innocent

Children in school, church, wherever? Still worth it then???!!! That can't be the values of a civil society.

[orleans]

225. that's what i keep thinking as i'm reading this thread...

kids...

if he was all in on guns then he couldn't have cared much about all the kids that have been slaughtered in these mass shootings

so...

[electric_blue68]

259. Sooo worth it, right? Wow

[RockRaven]

21. Everything Trump Touches Dies

That includes ever single American institution, even the opposing party. Nothing will ever again be what it was before Trump.

[JustAnotherGen]

32. The poster didn't say that

[RockRaven]

41. Amongst all the reading comprehension failures posted on DU regularly, this one stands out.

[Eliot Rosewater]

172. Getting real easy to spot the ones that have a different agenda, isn't it.

[mcar]

55. Show me where the poster said that

[The Grand Illuminist]

28. Sadly, war is hell.

This was unfortunate, but yet...

[JI7]

29. No, that's Republicans who shot and killed democratic officials

in Minnesota.

[JustAnotherGen]

30. Get used to it

There are a lot of us who see this as a war and will only vote for people who are willing to go scorched earth.

Part of our problem has been our 'nice' factor. But nice never beats evil . . . wicked does.

[The Grand Illuminist]

113. You are right

But this was not by choice, but pushed into resorting.

[LeftInTX]

36. We don't know who shot him.

A shooting a few months ago was done by a far-left radical type, not affiliated with the Democratic Party, but at one time affiliated with a communist group.

There's a difference between those types and the Democratic Party.

But we don't even know yet. Could be a mentally ill right winger or just a delusional nobody for all we know.

[live love laugh]

109. If it's a Republican, you won't know. The media makes sure to downplay that.

[Orrex]

184. If he's a Republican, he's a mentally ill lone wolf acting alone

If he’s a Democrat, then he’s a leftist extremist radicalized by the woke mind virus.

[muriel_volestrangler]

44. No one in this thread before you "hoped" he, or anyone else, would die

There's a lot of "who cares?"-type comments. But that, as I'm sure you're really aware, is not "hoping everyone dies".

[Ponietz]

45. Yeah, pretty chickenshit to cheer murder

[CrispyQ]

47. Hoping he dies & being apathetic to his situation are not the same thing.

I don't see anyone hoping he dies, only offering the same thoughts & prayers their side offers when a classroom of children are gunned down.

Let's hope he'll change his tune after this experience.

[calguy]

118. I don't think he'll have a tune to change after this

After watching the video clip, I doubt he can survive a hit like that. I hate to see anyone killed, but I will shed no tears when they announce his death.

[Eliot Rosewater]

171. Thank you of course they are not

Getting real easy to pick out the folks that might just have a different agenda than the rest of us.

Thank you for showing the courage to responding.

[GoneOffShore]

49. "If we don't make it dangerous to be a Nazi, they'll make it dangerous not to be."

[mike_c]

75. this

[Torchlight]

85. Try not to confuse individual opinions with "Democratic Party plans"

This being a message board doesn't change the taste of mustard.

[live love laugh]

97. You tripped over yourself ignoring Republicans, who are actually trying to kill millions, to point fingers for "hoping"?

Pfffftt

[bluestarone]

101. Gosh, where were you when 11 people were massacred in a little boat?

Oh, you didn't give a fuck about that right?

[cpamomfromtexas]

119. What proof is there that the shooter was on left?

[tonekat]

130. Hate to tell you

But they sure want us dead.

[OnlinePoker]

18. Saw the video on X.

Shot in the neck and his head immediately went over as he slumped in his chair. I don't think he's going to make it.

On edit: Maybe Trump will send in the troops to stop this lawlessness in Utah.

[underpants]

38. I just saw it too. Doesn't look good nor does this report

Videos circulating online appear to show Kirk recoiling after a shot was heard, with blood pouring from his neck.
A suspect is in custody, according to an alert the university sent to students.



https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/live-updates-shooting-charlie-kirk-event-utah-rcna230437

[sarisataka]

19. I do not support violence

and I will not deviate even when the victim is despicable.

[get the red out]

33. He may have become an example of

The gun problem in this country. I wish the right would actually look at the problem, but they won't and they are elegible too.

[sarisataka]

81. Yes it is a problem, however if I oppose other shootings

but make an exception for his shooting, I am a hypocrite.

The only valid use of a firearm against another is in self-defense to an immediate threat.

[get the red out]

94. I don't understand

Wanting to work to reduce gun violence isn't promoting gun violence. It can hurt anyone, why doesn't the right care? Just stating that liberals aren't the only people getting shot.

[sarisataka]

105. There are more than a few here cheering this action

Why doesn't the right care? I don't know, I could speculate that they simple don't care about anyone but themselves- but that is merely my opinion. I doubt this will change their position.
I am against anyone getting shot

[get the red out]

221. I hate it when someone is shot

I just heard that he has passed. It is always a tragedy that this happens.

[JustAnotherGen]

59. You are a better person than I am

He's a Christo Fascist. His violence of thoughts, beliefs, politics, dehumanization of the other, etc. etc. put him in that space and place.

[orangecrush]

91. Same here

[JCMach1]

257. Sometimes justice happens to true evil without any help

Charlie Kirk was an evil piece of 💩

[sarisataka]

262. Evil, yes. But is "justice"

Someone arbitrarily deciding a person needs to die, then murdering them?

[JCMach1]

271. Justice is a concept and it doesn't always come the way you would prefer

[sarisataka]

272. I would be careful when wielding a blade with two edges

It can cut both ways.

[JCMach1]

273. This is the agenda they have been pushing for years

Literally his last words.

[sarisataka]

275. Yes indeed, there is much karmic irony in his death

Following statements he made previously and his last words.

Yet to call an assassination justice open a very large can of worms.

[JCMach1]

276. Not in this case. I can look at Saddam, Qadaffi, even stepping back to Mussolini

I have 0 qualms in saying the air is a little cleaner and a form of justice done with what went down.

Kirk did real damage, real evil to this country. People died because of how he lived his life.

So no, there is no tragedy here and some measure of justice.

Then Jesus told him, “Put your sword back in its place because all who take up the sword will perish by the sword. Matthew 26:52

[sarisataka]

277. Luke 22:36

He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

So maybe we all should buy AR-15s
/sarc/

[hlthe2b]

25. The ONLY comment I will make is to ask UTAH?

Go figure...

[JustAnotherGen]

37. Fair comment/point

I guess SLC or wherever this was will need a troop invasion to end this lawlessness.

[obamanut2012]

51. This is in Orem, quite red

[JustAnotherGen]

56. Well

Looks like they've gone 'out of control gun violence'.

Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

[LeftInTX]

70. Oh the carnage!

[JoseBalow]

27. Fingers crossed

[StarryNite]

35. Collateral damage for the right for gun humpers to carry guns.

Maybe they will ban gun ownership for all people who looked like the shooter? Or only for Democrats if it was a white guy?

[underpants]

46. Direct quote from 2023

“I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.” -Charlie Kirk

Link to tweet

?s=46&t=3VBm1LJ8j8qLp6JTs_8J2A

[StarryNite]

52. Wow! Oh the irony!

[LiberalLovinLug]

114. Of course in that tweet, Charlie frames it as simply "the second amendment' banner.

Nothing about also being against some form of gun control, background checks, etc which the majority of Americans support.
And how many of these shooters received their weapons in spite of some violent or mentally unstable past?

[IzzaNuDay]

194. Definitely tragic but not a surprise.

IROOF to give for Charlie Kirk. It is indeed a tragic situation, but no surprise based on his gun safety stance.

Reminded me of a classmate’s saying: make sure the words you say are sweet, because you never know which words you’ll have to eat!

Shot by his own words.

[QueerDuck]

39. Well that's a damn shame, ain't it?

Well, he never had a lick of sense, pass the biscuits please...

[SoFlaBro]

40. MAGA fuckstain chickens coming home to roost. MAGA is all shitty. Piss on those fucking turds.

[jgmiller]

50. Trump didn't waste any time saying he's praying for Kirk

That alone proves just how sick Kirk is, we already know how sick Trump is.

[Beachnutt]

129. If trump is praying for him

he ain't gonna make it.

[Bluestocking]

53. Who is Charlie Kirk

Since I get all my news and info from DU if he wasn’t talked about on DU he doesn’t exist to me. Is he related to Captain Kirk from the Enterprise?

[OnlinePoker]

64. Right wing firebrand and Trump supporter. n/t

[Miguelito Loveless]

161. I hope not

Trump will make him a martyr, and that will be his excuse for martial law.

[jgmiller]

249. He will make him a martyr but I'm sure there are only two things going through Trump's mind right now

First is how does he get his hands on the money in Kirk's organization and second that he's upset this happened in Utah and not a blue state so he could use it in his campaign for martial law.

[Marcus Pullarius]

270. I agree

The impotent troll becomes far more powerful as a martyr for the extreme right wing.

[roamer65]

54. IDC.

Yawn.

[AZJonnie]

57. Tots and Pears

I have never wished anybody dead, but I have read some obituaries with considerable amusement.

[moonshinegnomie]

58. no sympathy whatsoever

[Resistance1]

63. Thoughts and Prayers

That is all

[OC375]

66. Horrific

Given several politicians from both parties have been shot or killed in less than a year, this doesn't feel like something that's going away. Seemingly like school shootings, once it happens enough times, the line is crossed and it's just another part of the new reality.

[Jacson6]

68. My sympathies and prayers for Kirk.

I don't agree with him, but he should not be shot for speaking his viewpoint.

[Ponietz]

98. Thanks for sanity

[Jacson6]

108. I always think what if someone shot me for my views. n/t

[calimary]

219. Yep. Saddest thing of all is that it's so possible by now.

No longer unthinkable.

[WiVoter]

107. Same Here

[moonshinegnomie]

128. he literally said that gun deaths are acceptable to insure gun rights

so i have zero sympathy

[DBoon]

140. ridiculed and shunned but not shot and killed

[C Moon]

71. Wow. He looked(s) young, too. He probably would have been a future rightwing evil leader.

[Vinca]

73. I haven't really been keeping up with the loons. Is Kirk currently in the Trump good graces because he's not

talking about Epstein so MAGA is pissed at him or is it the opposite?

[Queso Delicioso]

78. Welp. One less.

[Smilo]

89. Live by the gun

... die by the gun

kirk has caused so much fear and hurt and stirred the pot of hate and anger maybe this is divine will.

And no I won't be saying a prayer for kirk or his ilk. But my thoughts are with the shooter.

[NewHendoLib]

95. Bots and bears

[Denvermosaic]

103. Violent country, violent rhetorics, firearms everywhere, so unfortunate

[CanonRay]

106. Damn shame

One less asshole

[Chakaconcarne]

115. Compare how this crowd scatters as opposed to the trump incident

[Denvermosaic]

116. Soooo he's sending the National Guards, right?

[Upthevibe]

117. Socks and pears....n/t

[Grokenstein]

123. Now maybe the GOP will take gun violence seriously? Maybe?

I mean, probably not, there's still profits to be made, and trash like Chuckles are a dime a dozen. (No, I'm not going to be "civil" or offer thoughts and prayers or perform any other useless gesture. All of these bastards, from king krasnov himself to the most worthless alex jones xerox, have courted violence for years and snickered publicly about school shootings. This is the next stage of FAFO for them.)

[moonshinegnomie]

125. twitter is reporting hes dead

i saw the video of it. it looks like he was hit in the neck in an artery

[Kali]

126. wow

[kimbutgar]

127. He has been critical of the orange felon lately so I wouldn't be surprised if the shooter is a magaloon !

[WiVoter]

132. If He Were To Survive

How might it affect his stance on gun safety?

[Aristus]

147. Reagan survived a shooting. Didn't change his stance on guns.

They're incapable of learning...

[3catwoman3]

203. Mike Lee was shot at a congressional...

…baseball game and it didn’t change his mind.

[BumRushDaShow]

260. I think that was Steve Scalise.

[3catwoman3]

265. I think you're right. My apologies.

I’m doing all this on my phone while we are on a 10 hour road trip and it’s cumbersome to fact check with only one device.

(My husband is driving, BTW. I never text while driving.)

[BumRushDaShow]

269. I understand!!

I just remember when that happened and people figured he would finally "get it" (when he was "on his deathbed" as it was described, with shattered hip, etc). But he went right back to being an ass and even more so.

[LW1977]

136. What I wanna know is.

Where were the “good guys with guns”?

[exboyfil]

137. Just what we need

To make this a__hole a martyr. Congratulations nutcase you have just made the country worse.

There are plenty more Charlie Kirk's were he came from. Not so many martyrs to his screwed up cause. Would love for it to be a jealous husband/wife, but we aren't going to be that lucky. We will hear about it into the next election at a minimum.

[moonshinegnomie]

138. a quote from him a couple years ago

“I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

[calimary]

223. Quote of the year.

Charlie Kirk:
“I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

[BidenRocks]

139. Fuck him!

He did it to himself trying to overthrow our government!

No tots!
No pears!

[sarisataka]

149. Welcome to DU

What is your favorite pizza? Double pepperoni or vegitable?

[Mysterian]

143. A preacher of hatred apparently got somebody to hate him

No doubt there were not enough guns in the area to keep everybody safe.

[Beacool]

146. He reaped what he sowed.

Well, when you spread racism, bigotry, misogynism and homophobia, your karma won't be good.

[Cha]

148. Uh NO.. no "prayers" for CK.

Fascist Advocator of Guns Guns Guns.

He got "shot" at one of his brainwashing sessions.

[CanonRay]

152. How soon untill the National Guard arrives in Utah?

[not fooled]

156. His final act for red don

After helping brainwash a bunch of gullible idiots into voting puke, he goes out by helping compete with the Epstein coverage.

His epitaph might read: Everything Trump Touches Dies.

[634-5789]

157. Kirk was answering a question about transgender mass shooters in America seconds before he was shot

Seconds before Charlie Kirk was shot, he was heard on video answering a question about transgender mass shooters in America.

Here’s a look at the exchange:

Audience member: “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?”

Kirk: “Too many.”

The same audience member went on say the number is five, and proceeded to ask if Kirk knows how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years.

Kirk: “Counting or not counting gang violence?”

Seconds later, the sound of a pop is heard and the crowd screams as Kirk gets shot and recoils in his seat.

[Ponietz]

224. Instant karma

Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon you're gonna be dead
What in the world you thinking of
Laughing in the face of love
What on earth you tryin' to do
It's up to you, yeah you

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/T9mrBxWLcbM]

[yobrault1]

158. Obviously shot - I mean "thoughts" and

prayers…

[orangecrush]

202. ...

[Montauk6]

160. Of course, the number 1 suspect, I'm sure, is...

"all the hateful Woke Demoncrat libtard commie rhetoric that has destroyed any semblance of rational political discourse" or something like that.

The names may change but the Playbook stays the same. This may even energize the push to deploy troops to US (BLUE) cities.... (well, they ain't sending troops to UTAH, that's for damn sure).

[twodogsbarking]

164. Promoting viiolence leads to, well, violonce.

[kerouac2]

165. The irony is just so...

[denbot]

166. Saw the clip, he was definitely shot.

I don’t think I can post this here, my wife captured it before it was taken down.

[wolfie001]

170. The clip I saw was from a front seat vantage point

Survivability from what I saw in the clip appeared very low.

[TexasBushwhacker]

169. Critical condition as of 3 pm CT.

If they hit his carotid artery, he could be dead in 5 minutes. Jugular vein takes a bit longer. If blood was spurting, it was the artery.

[Kali]

174. Deseret News reporting he is dead

[LeftInTX]

180. Probably the most accurate source

[Justice Brandeis]

187. Never heard of them

nt

[Kali]

188. pretty big if not main news org in Utah

[orangecrush]

209. Saw the clip before it was taken down

Looked like Mickey Mantle went upside the back of his head

[Kali]

230. I saw a clip that looked like a movie prop

it was bad

[orangecrush]

241. Not a gun expert

But I'm guessing .30 caliber, not 5.56 AR

[Kali]

244. I have no idea

pretty wild - all of it - location, victim, potential distance, single shot...

[orangecrush]

252. Utah

Of all places.

[TexasBushwhacker]

210. As if 2:41 MT they are saying his condition is unknown

Deseret also says the suspect IS NOT in custody.

[Kali]

232. think they caught somebody, or maybe not

I'm listening here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220623985

[SSJVegeta]

173. Hope he pulls through and comes out with a renwed perspective on things.

[riversedge]

175. nbc 3m ago / 3:14 PM CDT No suspect in custody, university says: The school previously said in an alert that police had

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/live-updates-shooting-charlie-kirk-event-utah-rcna230437?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

Live updates: Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
Kirk, the right-wing activist and founder of Turning Point USA, was giving a presentation at Utah Valley University.
LIVE

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Updated Sept. 10, 2025, 3:14 PM CDT
By NBC News
What we know

Right-wing political activist Charlie Kirk was shot at an event he was hosting at Utah Valley University in Orem, just north of Provo.
Kirk was removed from the premises by his security team, the school said.
Videos circulating online appear to show Kirk recoiling after a shot was heard, with blood pouring from his neck.
A suspect is in custody, according to an alert the university sent to students.

3m ago / 3:14 PM CDT
No suspect in custody, university says
Lindsay Good and Doha Madani

Authorites do not have a suspect in custody, according to Utah Valley University spokesperson Eleanor Treanor.

The school previously said in an alert that police had a suspect detained.

[underpants]

185. I was just about to post that. NO SUSPECT IN CUSTODY

[Brainfodder]

176. Rotten Ego Aggressive Propoganda

Shot? Oh Well!
-----------------------------
Due to his activities, I can't wish him any recovery.

[RecoveringJournalist]

179. Not Good

My fellow liberals, regardless of how much you hate his guts (I do also) please think in larger terms. He's close to Trump. This could be the catalyst that triggers the long discussed emergency declaration and military takeover. And if there are thousands and thousands of liberal expressions of joy that the Right can cite, they can just as quickly say "it's time to crack down on all liberals." Please think in these types of terms because they're looking for an excuse.

[orangecrush]

214. No problem

I don't crack easily.

[bucolic_frolic]

181. Hasn't AI found the suspect YET?

[AverageOldGuy]

182. I'm hearing reports . . .

. . . that he is at death's door.

Praying that he is pulled through.

Hmm. That didn't come out right. Or maybe it did.

[Orrex]

198. I'm sure he'll achieve the best possible outcome

[orangecrush]

217. ...

[RANDYWILDMAN]

186. Sounds like a dangerous place

Maybe dummmass should send in the national guard to get control


Thoughts and prayers

[mnhtnbb]

189. watching Nicolle Wallace

She is reporting that Marjorie Taylor Greene is asserting Kirk is alive.

Dr Gupta now describing bleeding and airway compromise, and possibility of spinal cord and GI compromise, given the location of bullet entry to his neck.

[ananda]

200. This almost makes me wish he'd survive..

just to suffer for the rest of his miserable life.

[Karasu]

190. This is clearly the kind of country Republicans want (including Kirk himself), so I couldn't give less of a fuck.

[underpants]

191. I'm not posting it but there's a close up video. I can't imagine he lives through this.

A lot of blood suddenly out of his neck. A lot.

[Blue Full Moon]

193. Clots and hair nows not the time.

He said that gun deaths were unfortunately worth it to keep the 2nd amendment. Meaning someone else and not him.

[cer7711]

197. Revolutionary times breed revolutionary violence.

This is not a celebratory comment but a lament.

How much pain, suffering and death do you think the working- and middle-classes will endure before dealing out a little payback of their own?

We need a new FDR to save capitalism from itself.

PS. Also: Where is the looooooooong overdue ban and control of certain problematic guns?

[Karasu]

253. Never happening, because even the Republicans feigning outrage over this won't do fucking shit when it comes to gun

laws.

This is clearly the kind of country they want, where anyone can be fucking shot at any time. Well, sadly, they've got it. They hold the levers of power and crush every single attempt to do anything about this.

This is 100% on them.

[mnhtnbb]

201. Trump has posted Kirk is dead

On his social media.

[timms139]

205. The orange

Blob just said he is dead .

[rustysgurl]

206. Elections Canceled???

So is this what Trump is going to use to try to cancel elections?

For the record, I do not condone this shooting, despite the fact that I wholeheartedly disagree with everything this man espoused. His shooting/2nd amendment quote sure didn't age well, did it?

[Karasu]

211. He was planning on doing that regardless, or at least controlling them and turning them into a Russia-style farce.

See this topic:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143526506

[barbtries]

207. He died according to krasnov

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-09-10-25

[BumRushDaShow]

208. AP "Live Updates" has 45 reporting that he has died. Waiting for The Guardian update.

[A_Steel_Magnolia]

212. Charlie Kirk has died!

[OC375]

213. He's a Memory Now

He has millions of followers. Hope they stay calm. No shooter yet either. I hope they get the guy if only for closure and focus.

[Aviation Pro]

216. Yeah, I'm going to wait for a report from someone who isn't a habitual, fucking liar

And why is the fucking pedophile issuing statements like this?

On edit: confirmed by Utah law enforcement.

[BumRushDaShow]

218. The Guardian has now updated.

[YoshidaYui]

220. CNN reporting he is dead

———-.

[barbtries]

222. People reporting it also

https://people.com/charlie-kirk-dead-utah-college-shooting-11807587

[orangecrush]

254. Some people say ...

[Mawspam2]

227. TRUMP: Charlie Kirk is dead.

TRUMP: Now, can we forget about Epstein? Hey, I was shot, too. ME ME ME ME ME!!!

[LPBBEAR]

228. The future suddenly

looks a bit brighter.

(No sympathy here)

[hamsterjill]

231. I can't seem to muster any sympathy.

I don’t know what that even means as to myself, except that I know one of the families of one of the victims in the Uvalde massacre, and I can’t believe anyone would oppose common sense gun laws.

Karma just bites sometimes. This was one of those times.

[quakerboy]

229. How about the Epstein files, Mr Dictator?

[Marthe48]

238. I'll wait for a reliable source

n/t

[LeftInTX]

240. Every reliable source says he was shot and is dead.

https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-conservative-activist-shot-546165a8151104e0938a5e085be1e8bd

[LT Barclay]

239. So, not The Onion? Reality is so confusing!

[Blue Full Moon]

242. Keep this thought.

“I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage” - Charlie Kirk

[QueerDuck]

245. Some jackass GOP politician will demand that Kirk's body lie in state in the Rotunda of the Capitol bldg.

Or maybe in the National Statuary Hall. It's coming. Mark my words. They will try to make him as much of a martyr as Babbit.

[bromeando]

246. Kirk

One less fascist to worry about.

[BigDemVoter]

247. The video of the shooting was very nasty.

Ewww. Interesting that he was talking about shootings when this happened. I wonder if that was just concidence?

[Xipe Totec]

251. Tots and Pears. nt

[UpInArms]

255. Charlie Kirk Says Gun Deaths 'Unfortunately' Worth it to Keep 2nd Amendment

APR 06, 2023

Charlie Kirk, the conservative founder and president of Turning Point USA, said during an organizational event on Wednesday that gun deaths in exchange for the preservation of Second Amendment rights is part of America's reality.

Kirk's comments come about one week after three children and three adults were killed at the Christian Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee.

https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113

And … then … I haven’t even picked nothing more to add

[Deminpenn]

256. According to Galatians 6

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

[Exp]

258. Okay. nt

[Sam I Yam]

267. Hey, Chuck

Tell Satan I said hi!

[PCB66]

268. This is not good for us

[Polybius]

274. A disgusting act of senseless violence

No one should ever have to worry about violence while delivering a political speech of any kind. My thoughts and prayers are with the Kirk family.