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highplainsdem

(59,810 posts)
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 02:08 PM Sep 2025

New details emerge on Hegseth's unusual mass gathering of top brass

Source: Washington Post

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered hundreds of generals to travel on short notice from around the world to hear him make a short speech on military standards and the “warrior ethos,” multiple people familiar with the event told The Washington Post.

Hegseth’s orders, which were sent earlier this week to senior generals and admirals worldwide, require anyone in a command position with the rank of one-star general or rear admiral and above, as well as their senior enlisted leaders, to be at Marine Corps University in Quantico, Virginia, on Tuesday.

Exceptions will be granted on a rare basis with approval from top military officials, the people familiar with the matter said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive planning.

-snip-

The timing of the event has been of particular concern: The speech is set for Sept. 30, the last day of the fiscal year. If there is a government shutdown, it could leave key staff stranded in Virginia as military commands across the globe are juggling the security implications of Russia’s war against Ukraine, Israel’s renewed offensive in Gaza and the continued threat to U.S. personnel in the Middle East, where the Houthis and other Iranian-backed militias continue to fire missiles and drones at U.S. interests.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/09/26/hegseth-generals-meeting-warrior-speech/



According to the article, Hegseth posted a sarcastic "Cool story, General" response after a retired lieutenant general tweeted about German generals being required to swear a personal oath to Hitler in 1935.

Hegseth will reportedly give two more short lectures this year, one on the defense industrial base and the third, on deterrence, in California in December.
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New details emerge on Hegseth's unusual mass gathering of top brass (Original Post) highplainsdem Sep 2025 OP
The fact that this man demands respect and authority is appalling. NCDem47 Sep 2025 #1
I think it was a test. -Who will knuckle under and who won't?- So you better show up... mpcamb Sep 2025 #19
The Answer Not Heard Roy Rolling Sep 2025 #40
He has to command it, Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2025 #47
shithole and the administration are getting crazier....................... Lovie777 Sep 2025 #2
See what one can waste money on when you have a trillion dollar budget. sinkingfeeling Sep 2025 #3
I Cannot Fathom the Cost to the Amerrican People of What Appears to be Absolutely Shameful Grandstanding The Roux Comes First Sep 2025 #4
Whenever I hear Pete Hegseth blathering about "warrior ethos", I think that man is really worried about the size of his jls4561 Sep 2025 #5
Maybe Pete has an "innie", not an "outtie". erronis Sep 2025 #8
Standards and warrior ethos... ananda Sep 2025 #6
Sounds like a bullshit cover story to me JoseBalow Sep 2025 #7
Yup orangecrush Sep 2025 #18
I don't understand why this story isn't bigger MadameButterfly Sep 2025 #9
Freak. speak easy Sep 2025 #10
"end of the fiscal year" SeattleVet Sep 2025 #11
Not just military dixiegrrrrl Sep 2025 #45
Yep, anything with gov funds. SeattleVet Sep 2025 #46
They wouldn't even need to use Zoom jmowreader Sep 2025 #50
We're paying to fly people in from all over the world for a short speech??????????? Vinca Sep 2025 #12
And it could have all been done via secure video link. groundloop Sep 2025 #14
Ahh, But See... GB_RN Sep 2025 #24
speaking of security popsdenver Sep 2025 #49
Scary... GB_RN Sep 2025 #51
Good time for Russia to Stir the Pot tonekat Sep 2025 #54
One hour is what I hear vapor2 Sep 2025 #27
No, you don't understand. Shipwack Sep 2025 #29
The idea of our top military leaders moniss Sep 2025 #13
reply to monies Scarlet Begalas Sep 2025 #35
I think "military standards" and "grooming" will end up being... IrishAfricanAmerican Sep 2025 #15
Send Hegseth to 1960s Vietnam Roy Rolling Sep 2025 #16
He'd be "Fragged by his own troops" tonekat Sep 2025 #55
A grandstanding buffoon in charge of our security. What could go wrong? Let's put all our top military leaders in one Martin68 Sep 2025 #17
One word- Stalin James48 Sep 2025 #20
Saddam Hussein had a major purge in July 1979 Seinan Sensei Sep 2025 #38
I read about his "cool story" BS, which is scary as hell. Another thing is this meeting has been telegraphed for a week Cheezoholic Sep 2025 #21
We assume security will be "iron clad" intrepidity Sep 2025 #44
So hundreds (and staff...) were summoned from around the world... EarthFirst Sep 2025 #22
Earth First Reply Scarlet Begalas Sep 2025 #34
My thinking as well. yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #52
"Cool story, General"? GenThePerservering Sep 2025 #23
You really don't need a tin foil hat to consider the implications and possibilities surrounding this bazaar action. Scalded Nun Sep 2025 #25
Right, surprised others haven't mentioned it Ponietz Sep 2025 #30
Except it might mean his own ouster. Frasier Balzov Sep 2025 #56
The generals have got to be groaning inwardly at his idiotic blatherings. viva la Sep 2025 #26
I fear he will have them all take an oath to 47 and discard the constitution vapor2 Sep 2025 #28
Or fire the majority, who won't sign up. thought crime Sep 2025 #37
The gist of Hegseth's speech: LudwigPastorius Sep 2025 #31
"Generals gathered in their masses..." ZZenith Sep 2025 #32
Trumpers Are Traitors Scarlet Begalas Sep 2025 #33
All the Admirals have probably read "The Caine Mutiny". thought crime Sep 2025 #36
WTF does that pompous blowhard know about warrior ethos. paulrevere2018 Sep 2025 #39
I suspect that Hegseth's version of warrior ethos is the heinous behavior of US troops at Abu Ghraib. Lonestarblue Sep 2025 #41
Is This Going to Be a Sign the Loyalty Oath or Be Forced Out Assembly? MrWowWow Sep 2025 #42
James Bond villain was my first thought! sindri Sep 2025 #43
We likely will be in a number of military conflicts soon. Du916 Sep 2025 #48
Generals gather in their masses... CentralMass Sep 2025 #53

mpcamb

(3,177 posts)
19. I think it was a test. -Who will knuckle under and who won't?- So you better show up...
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 04:50 PM
Sep 2025

His masters might have figured that angle out ... He's to goddam dumb to, but it's it's a very plausible explanation and
a way of figuring out what fecal matter sinks and what floats and what you can get away with for a daily news cycle.

(apologies for the scatological reference, but, - hey, cmon, who are we dealing with?)

Roy Rolling

(7,412 posts)
40. The Answer Not Heard
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 06:28 AM
Sep 2025

All of those generals have been trained for decades to spot a charlatan like HedgeHog. He can give all the speeches he wants but he can’t demonstrate a lifetime of honor and moral steadfast character like them.

This is gonna be interesting.

Those who remember the word “Westmorlend” can recognize the problem.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,480 posts)
47. He has to command it,
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 01:20 PM
Sep 2025

otherwise he won't get any.
😂

Sorry. None of this fascist crap is funny, but it is laughable.

Lovie777

(21,631 posts)
2. shithole and the administration are getting crazier.......................
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 02:17 PM
Sep 2025

something is off with shithole, the 6 RW US SC justices, and most of the Republican party, including the RW corporations.

The Roux Comes First

(2,139 posts)
4. I Cannot Fathom the Cost to the Amerrican People of What Appears to be Absolutely Shameful Grandstanding
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 02:17 PM
Sep 2025

Of course hundreds if not thousands of Secret Service sleepovers at the "resorts" at $10K a pop may be in the same general ballpark.

jls4561

(2,828 posts)
5. Whenever I hear Pete Hegseth blathering about "warrior ethos", I think that man is really worried about the size of his
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 02:23 PM
Sep 2025

penis.

I have no reliable information about the size of Hegseth’s penis. I just think he’s inflicting his insecurities on America, and that we are the worse for it.

And don’t even get me started on Fat Donnie from Queens.

erronis

(22,603 posts)
8. Maybe Pete has an "innie", not an "outtie".
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 02:27 PM
Sep 2025

Sorry - old boys camp joke. But penile worries seem to bother most of the trump entourage.

Maybe Noem has the biggest?

ananda

(34,345 posts)
6. Standards and warrior ethos...
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 02:23 PM
Sep 2025

Meaning, attack and kill any person or country
who criticizes Trump, and/or which isn't white
enough.

MadameButterfly

(3,737 posts)
9. I don't understand why this story isn't bigger
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 02:37 PM
Sep 2025

Last edited Sat Sep 27, 2025, 05:23 AM - Edit history (1)

The risks to our security and our democracy are potentially huge.
I expect this is about purging the military of any remaining professionals who won't follow illegal orders.
Our main hope in saving democracy is a military that won't enforce Trump's autocratic agenda.
This is right out of Hilter's playbook.
Are we going to wait until it's too late to get alarmed about this?

SeattleVet

(5,825 posts)
11. "end of the fiscal year"
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 02:47 PM
Sep 2025

When I was in the Air Force those were the words that told us to order whatever we wanted so that we could spend all the money allocated for that year. We were told that if we didn't spend every penny (and then some) that had been budgeted for this year they'd cut our budget for next year, since we obviously didn't need as much as they gave us.

Lots of money wasted at the end of each fiscal by every government department trying to show that they really needed all the money that had been budgeted.

Flying every general officer to DC to participate in something that could easily be done via Zoom is a massive waste of money and personnel resources (they aren't getting to DC by themselves - they'll need aircrews, ground transportation, lodging, etc.).

SeattleVet

(5,825 posts)
46. Yep, anything with gov funds.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 01:13 PM
Sep 2025

I also saw it at a DoD entity and at a Dept.of Commerce agency.

jmowreader

(52,882 posts)
50. They wouldn't even need to use Zoom
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 08:00 PM
Sep 2025

Generals can read. The military uses the Defense Message System which sends what look a lot like modern-day emails, and it could have been transmitted that way.

The problem Hegseth has, is when you stick two high-ranking officers in the same room they talk. When you stick everyone wearing a star and all their sergeants major in the same room, they talk A LOT...and they'll be talking about what to do about Donald Fucking Trump and the platoon leader he put in charge of the military.

popsdenver

(1,486 posts)
49. speaking of security
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:08 PM
Sep 2025

anyone here but me thinking that gathering the entire worldwide group of our top Admirals and Generals, in ONE place, and at ONE time.....is beyond ludicrous????

I terrifies me to think about what they're thinking of doing............

GB_RN

(3,506 posts)
51. Scary...
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 08:04 PM
Sep 2025

And not for just the “cutting the head off the snake” reason. Tuesday is the end of the federal fiscal year. Absent a budget deal/temporary extension bill, all the major military leadership (officers and senior noncommissioned personnel) could be STUCK in Virginia.

Besides the nightmarish shenanigans Caligula and Kegseth could get into, it provides a major opportunity for adversaries to do some shit.

tonekat

(2,439 posts)
54. Good time for Russia to Stir the Pot
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 08:43 PM
Sep 2025

While the Command Staff is away? Shades of Milo Minderbinder cutting a deal with the Germans to bomb their own base! I would't put it past trump to do such a thing for a chance to build hotels in Moscow.

moniss

(8,656 posts)
13. The idea of our top military leaders
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 02:57 PM
Sep 2025

being lectured to by a sloppy drunk TV personality is on brand for this bunch in the cabal of Crumb the 1st.

Scarlet Begalas

(72 posts)
35. reply to monies
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 10:56 PM
Sep 2025

The military brass probably find this highly insulting. And I wouldn't blame them.

IrishAfricanAmerican

(4,380 posts)
15. I think "military standards" and "grooming" will end up being...
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 03:42 PM
Sep 2025

new rules to force black servicemen with no-shave waviers out. I think their goal is an all-white or pre-Truman segregated forces. Women will be sent packing. Just a guess.

Roy Rolling

(7,412 posts)
16. Send Hegseth to 1960s Vietnam
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 03:44 PM
Sep 2025

He just missed by 50 years the chance to demonstrate his warrior bullshit against real live enemy fire.


Martin68

(27,002 posts)
17. A grandstanding buffoon in charge of our security. What could go wrong? Let's put all our top military leaders in one
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 03:53 PM
Sep 2025

location and publicize it world-wide.

James48

(5,082 posts)
20. One word- Stalin
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 04:58 PM
Sep 2025

When Stalin purged his generals , he had a big meeting, and had them all arrested and sent to Siberia, or murdered. In 1937, Stalin ordered a meeting of high up members of the military, and the Politbureau.

Ninety three of the 139 Central Committee members were killed and 81 of the 103 generals and admirals were executed. In 1941, a further 46 generals were murdered.

If Putin wanted to harm the USA, I can imagine him sending a missile to Quantico when every single flag officer was present. Just a small nuke would pretty much erase our entire military leadership.

Yes, Hegseth IS that stupid.

Seinan Sensei

(1,347 posts)
38. Saddam Hussein had a major purge in July 1979
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 11:39 PM
Sep 2025

In a matter of two hours, he purged 66 ‘traitors.’

Iraqi leaders had been invited to a congress without knowing what was on the agenda.

Cheezoholic

(3,516 posts)
21. I read about his "cool story" BS, which is scary as hell. Another thing is this meeting has been telegraphed for a week
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 05:03 PM
Sep 2025

While I'm sure something sinister is not likely, but how smart and SAFE is it to have perhaps over 500 of our top military leaders of active duty troops around the world all sitting in the same building at the same time? While I'm sure security is iron clad (maybe with these idiots?) our enemies would be salivating to hit a target like that (or clandestinely eavesdrop). We don't do that with the top civilian chain of command, we separate them when needed i.e. the State of the Union address. Whatever the reason for it it's stupid and foolish as fuck to me.

intrepidity

(8,551 posts)
44. We assume security will be "iron clad"
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 12:20 PM
Sep 2025

but logically, all evidence is that competence simply does not factor into this admin, only loyalty. At some point, we will see what that means in the security realm.

EarthFirst

(3,938 posts)
22. So hundreds (and staff...) were summoned from around the world...
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 05:05 PM
Sep 2025

…to hear a speech on “warrior ethos” for less than one hour in duration?

Forgive me but I’m not fucking buying it.

I’ll have more details please…

There’s something far more nefarious brewing.

Scarlet Begalas

(72 posts)
34. Earth First Reply
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 10:52 PM
Sep 2025

They're really doing a great job saving taxpayer money with a stunt like this, huh?

Scalded Nun

(1,598 posts)
25. You really don't need a tin foil hat to consider the implications and possibilities surrounding this bazaar action.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:54 PM
Sep 2025

viva la

(4,476 posts)
26. The generals have got to be groaning inwardly at his idiotic blatherings.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 08:56 PM
Sep 2025

All he wanted, I'm sure, is to feel like The Big Man.

Scarlet Begalas

(72 posts)
33. Trumpers Are Traitors
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 10:49 PM
Sep 2025

"The speech is set for Sept. 30, the last day of the fiscal year. If there is a government shutdown, it could leave key staff stranded in Virginia..." These people really are trying to destroy this country.

thought crime

(1,163 posts)
36. All the Admirals have probably read "The Caine Mutiny".
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 11:15 PM
Sep 2025

The book gives guidance for officers in situations like this.

paulrevere2018

(84 posts)
39. WTF does that pompous blowhard know about warrior ethos.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 06:21 AM
Sep 2025

Im sure he learned that at Princeton or while being a jail keeper in Guantanamo. This is just a chance for him to cosplay being a battle hardened warfare expert.

Lonestarblue

(13,210 posts)
41. I suspect that Hegseth's version of warrior ethos is the heinous behavior of US troops at Abu Ghraib.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 06:34 AM
Sep 2025

Hegseth was against prosecuting those soldiers for their behavior.

sindri

(66 posts)
43. James Bond villain was my first thought!
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 07:51 AM
Sep 2025

Does he have a shark tank in which to dump those who don't go along with him?

Du916

(139 posts)
48. We likely will be in a number of military conflicts soon.
Sat Sep 27, 2025, 01:42 PM
Sep 2025

I was just speaking to a recently retired career military intelligence officer who specialized in WMDs. He mentioned a high probability of conflict in Taiwan, as well as in Venezuela. He also mention heightened tension with Russia that he thinks will soon erupt. We did not talk party/MAGA politics because I assumed he would be a Repub. But when I tried to tease a response by stating that the current administration is burning down the United States, he remarked that it’s gotten really bad and the whole world is on fire.

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