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BumRushDaShow

(169,948 posts)
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:47 PM Oct 2025

Vance says ACA credits fuel fraud as Democrats push for extension to end shutdown

Source: Reuters

October 12, 2025 11:15 AM EDT Updated 1 hour ago


WASHINGTON, Oct 12 (Reuters) - Vice President JD Vance criticized Affordable Care Act tax credits on Sunday, labeling them vehicles for fraud and calling for regulatory reform, even as Democratic lawmakers seek to extend healthcare subsidies in the standoff over the government shutdown.

"The tax credits go to some people deservedly, and we think the tax credits actually go to a lot of waste and fraud within the insurance industry. So we want to make sure that the tax credits go to the people who need them," Vance told CBS News' "Face the Nation."

Vance's view contrasts with the stance of Senate Democrats who have used their legislative leverage for the past two weeks to withhold votes for a stopgap funding bill to reopen government.

Most Democrats in the upper chamber have held out to push for a range of healthcare fixes such as a possible extension of enhanced insurance tax credits that are set to expire at the end of the year.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/vance-says-aca-credits-fuel-fraud-democrats-push-extension-end-shutdown-2025-10-12/



Let his ass show up in rural Indiana and tell them why they are a bunch of frauds using the ACA.
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Vance says ACA credits fuel fraud as Democrats push for extension to end shutdown (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2025 OP
Latest bullshit excuse. Klarkashton Oct 2025 #1
Actually the insurance companies are the problem. Srkdqltr Oct 2025 #2
". . . So we want to make sure that the tax credits go to the people who need them" yonder Oct 2025 #3
Like ReichWing logic: Some people vote for Democrats so there should be no voting. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #4
Generic republicanspeak BaronChocula Oct 2025 #5
He obviously doesn't know how it works. Phoenix61 Oct 2025 #6
His statements show he has no idea how the tax subsidies work. yellow dahlia Oct 2025 #7
"80% of all premium tax credits ($115 billion) went to ACA Marketplace enrollees in Trump-won states" progree Oct 2025 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Oct 2025 #9
An Ivy league education wasted on Vance Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2025 #10
this is repuke logic about ANY program that helps people Skittles Oct 2025 #11
If that is the case melm00se Oct 2025 #12

yonder

(10,294 posts)
3. ". . . So we want to make sure that the tax credits go to the people who need them"
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:42 PM
Oct 2025

Let that sink in for a second.

The people who need them indeed.

BaronChocula

(4,563 posts)
5. Generic republicanspeak
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:58 PM
Oct 2025

"Assistance to Americans leads to fraud. Aid to Americans leads to fraud."

Why do republicans hate America???

Phoenix61

(18,836 posts)
6. He obviously doesn't know how it works.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 02:11 PM
Oct 2025

No big surprise. I got nailed to the tune of almost $6,000 on my tax return because Florida Blue failed to update my income when I told them to. The government clawed back the ACA subsidy I was not entitled to but had been given. The only way to commit fraud would be to not file or not pay your taxes. If they want to find fraud ask Rick Scott. He know ALL about it.

yellow dahlia

(5,959 posts)
7. His statements show he has no idea how the tax subsidies work.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 02:17 PM
Oct 2025

Or he knows and is distorting the situation, because he thinks his "base" is too stupid to understand.

progree

(13,001 posts)
8. "80% of all premium tax credits ($115 billion) went to ACA Marketplace enrollees in Trump-won states"
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 02:45 PM
Oct 2025
https://www.kff.org/quick-take/more-than-3-in-4-aca-marketplace-enrollees-live-in-states-won-by-president-trump-in-2024

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Open enrollment starts in Idaho on Wednesday October 15 - so they will be the first to see what their plan and other plans will cost. Most states' open enrollment begins November 1.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-congress-is-running-out-of-time-for-an-obamacare-deal/ar-AA1NTxRx

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Skittles

(171,791 posts)
11. this is repuke logic about ANY program that helps people
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 06:33 PM
Oct 2025

SOME may abuse the system so NO ONE DESERVES HELP

melm00se

(5,161 posts)
12. If that is the case
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 06:36 PM
Oct 2025

why not go after the fraud at the insurance company level rather than punish citizens?

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