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BumRushDaShow

(165,346 posts)
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 08:49 AM 9 hrs ago

Zelensky: 15-year US security guarantee part of peace proposal

Source: The Hill

12/29/25 7:56 AM ET


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told reporters on Monday that the United States is offering a 15-year security guarantee in the latest draft of the 20-point peace proposal to end Kyiv’s war with Russia.

Zelensky, answering reporters’ questions on WhatsApp, said he would prefer the Trump administration to commit to up to 50 years to deter Russia from launching any further attacks.

“I would like the guarantee to be much longer,” Zelensky said, multiple outlets reported. “I told him that we would very much like to consider the possibility of 30, 40, 50 years,” Zelensky added. “And that would then be a historic decision by President Trump.”

Zelensky told reporters that President Trump said he would consider the Ukrainian leader’s request for more years, The Associated Press reported.

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/international/5665104-volodymyr-zelensky-donald-trump-ukraine-security-guarantee/

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Zelensky: 15-year US security guarantee part of peace proposal (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 9 hrs ago OP
Any agreement with Trump is meaningless. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #1
I was just about to reply..... wolfie001 9 hrs ago #2
Trump will play both ends. Exact a huge amount of money from both Ukraine and Russia. Irish_Dem 8 hrs ago #7
I think he will only extract money from Ukraine MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #21
It would be interesting to see the real transactions behind the scenes. Irish_Dem 1 hr ago #23
President Zelenskyy needs to understand that. OldBaldy1701E 9 hrs ago #3
Guarantees were already made when Ukraine gave up all its nukes Bayard 4 hrs ago #19
Yep. OldBaldy1701E 4 hrs ago #20
Zelensky understands who he is dealing with MadameButterfly 1 hr ago #22
"Hoping to survive until the US gets rid of Trump." OldBaldy1701E 36 min ago #25
Any agreement with shithole and Putin is meaningless................ Lovie777 8 hrs ago #11
Putin and Trump will double cross everyone including each other. Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #16
Vlad will... Mike Nelson 9 hrs ago #4
And send over some hookers and kids. Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #17
Unfortunately the US has become a four year organization! Hope22 8 hrs ago #5
Trump doesn't follow rules JBTaurus83 8 hrs ago #6
The only way to make this a binding agreement thucythucy 8 hrs ago #8
It would be meaningless angrychair 7 hrs ago #15
Huh uh, that dog don't hunt. no_hypocrisy 8 hrs ago #9
There already is a security guarantee Bluestocking 8 hrs ago #10
I wouldn't trust the US for anything. Trump is lying. travelingthrulife 8 hrs ago #12
Except for revenge, a guarantee from Trump is a joke. Norrrm 8 hrs ago #13
Our word is meaningless angrychair 7 hrs ago #14
Smart move would be during that time - build and hide Nukes, Dan 4 hrs ago #18
So gee, who would I trust the most not to lie about this. ananda 1 hr ago #24

wolfie001

(7,022 posts)
2. I was just about to reply.....
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:04 AM
9 hrs ago

Some russki oligarch will hold a stash of bitcoin at the fat orange imbecile and Ukraine's out the window.

Irish_Dem

(79,486 posts)
7. Trump will play both ends. Exact a huge amount of money from both Ukraine and Russia.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:26 AM
8 hrs ago

They want something from him and they will have to pay out the nose for it.

Then he will screw over both sides.

MadameButterfly

(3,728 posts)
21. I think he will only extract money from Ukraine
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:20 PM
1 hr ago

Territory, minerals, etc.
He'll MAYBE extract promises form Putin which won't be kept.
Trump is not running this. Putin is.

Irish_Dem

(79,486 posts)
23. It would be interesting to see the real transactions behind the scenes.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:29 PM
1 hr ago

Not the fake TV stunts.

Yes Trump will extract something from both sides.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,059 posts)
3. President Zelenskyy needs to understand that.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:06 AM
9 hrs ago

Making any deal with this slimeball is going to backfire on you spectacularly.

Just read some history on the subject.

Bayard

(28,425 posts)
19. Guarantees were already made when Ukraine gave up all its nukes
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:28 PM
4 hrs ago

We see how that's worked.

trump, "considering," on providing protection for more years, like Zelensky wants, is crap. Its not up to him, and if it was Putin asking, it would be shoved down Ukraine's throat.

Zelensky asks, Putin demands.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,059 posts)
20. Yep.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:34 PM
4 hrs ago

The problem, of course, is that Zelenskyy asks, Putin demands, and Trump kowtows.

MadameButterfly

(3,728 posts)
22. Zelensky understands who he is dealing with
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:27 PM
1 hr ago

He has to go through the motions. He is buying time. While Europe arms enough to help and while Ukrainian drones keep getting better. Hoping to survive until the US gets rid of Trump. Making it as hard as possible for Trump politicallly to completely desert Ukraine or publicly allly himself with Putin. Zelensky is smarter than the rest of us.

Mike Nelson

(10,901 posts)
4. Vlad will...
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:07 AM
9 hrs ago

... agree to anything unenforceable and nothing meaningful. He will also tell The Donald how handsome he is, and how much he deserves a Peace Award for all his hard work.

Hope22

(4,437 posts)
5. Unfortunately the US has become a four year organization!
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:22 AM
8 hrs ago

Sir we are into our second year with this one. There are no guarantees. Even the citizens here do not know what their future brings. I suggest you form an alliance with a more stable, trustworthy group. Stay safe. Your bravery and commitment to your people and country is a thing of beauty and strength. I am sorry that the T administration treats you with such disdain. You deserved better.

JBTaurus83

(849 posts)
6. Trump doesn't follow rules
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:25 AM
8 hrs ago

He doesn’t follow laws and financial allocations from Congress. Who would ever trust that the US will make good on security guarantees?

thucythucy

(9,042 posts)
8. The only way to make this a binding agreement
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:36 AM
8 hrs ago

would be for it to be a formal treaty ratified by the Senate.

And even then, there's a good chance we'd still refuse to help if Russia attacks at some point in the future.

Wasn't Ukraine given a guarantee from Russia some years ago? And how did that turn out?

angrychair

(11,644 posts)
15. It would be meaningless
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 10:28 AM
7 hrs ago

We already have a security agreement with them, the Budapest Memorandum, we refused to honor it.
Unfortunately, that wasn't even Mango Mussolini but he also refused to honor it.

no_hypocrisy

(54,159 posts)
9. Huh uh, that dog don't hunt.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:37 AM
8 hrs ago

Russia advances into Ukraine and Trump will be an adversary of Putin?

Bluestocking

(482 posts)
10. There already is a security guarantee
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 09:37 AM
8 hrs ago

It is called the Budapest Memorandum. How about the US and Russia just honor what was already agreed upon when Ukraine gave up its nukes.

angrychair

(11,644 posts)
14. Our word is meaningless
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 10:22 AM
7 hrs ago

Didn't we already have a treaty with them to protect them if they removed their nuclear weapons?

We didn't honor that agreement either.

Dan

(4,934 posts)
18. Smart move would be during that time - build and hide Nukes,
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:17 PM
4 hrs ago

Combined with creating a delivery system. Because trusting Trump and the GOP would be beyond stupid.

ananda

(34,332 posts)
24. So gee, who would I trust the most not to lie about this.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:32 PM
1 hr ago

It's just so hard to choose.

sarcasm

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