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highplainsdem

(59,742 posts)
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:19 AM 7 hrs ago

Russia says Ukraine tried to attack Putin's residence but Kyiv says Moscow is lying

Source: Reuters

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Monday that Ukraine had tried to attack President Vladimir Putin's residence in northern Russia and so Moscow's negotiating position would be reviewed, but Ukraine said it was a lie.

Russia said Ukraine attacked the presidential residence in the Novgorod region overnight with 91 long-range drones, which were all destroyed by Russian air defences. No one was injured and there was no damage, Lavrov said.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said the accusation was a lie, adding that Moscow was preparing the ground to strike government buildings in Kyiv. He said the Russian claim was an attempt to undermine peace talks.

Lavrov said that targets had already been selected for retaliatory strikes by Russia's armed forces. "Such reckless actions will not go unanswered," he said, adding that the attack amounted to "state terrorism."

-snip-

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-ukraine-tried-attack-putins-residence-so-moscows-negotiating-stance-2025-12-29/

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Russia says Ukraine tried to attack Putin's residence but Kyiv says Moscow is lying (Original Post) highplainsdem 7 hrs ago OP
It's way past time for Putin to leave the planet. Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #1
A one way ticket OFF Mother Earth. No return ticket! riversedge 7 hrs ago #5
There are some who say he's already left the planet and that doubles are taking his place. nt in2herbs 3 hrs ago #21
I think this is possible. Or Putin is in deep hiding and sending out doubles. Irish_Dem 33 min ago #27
How many times has Putin tried to kill Zelensky? Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #2
I still think Zelensky shouldn't have eaten the food at tavernier 7 hrs ago #7
Did he actually eat the food or just move it around his plate? Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #17
Such a classic bully tactic PatSeg 3 hrs ago #20
Yes exactly. When victims fight back, bullies are furious. Irish_Dem 2 hrs ago #25
It is so common, yet so bizarre PatSeg 27 min ago #28
Trump is just the front man. The snake oil salesman. Irish_Dem 25 min ago #29
Sadly true PatSeg 16 min ago #31
Classic attempt at a false flag operation... such bull Scheie...nt mitch96 3 hrs ago #22
Putin is just like NuttyYahoo. travelingthrulife 7 hrs ago #3
It's difficult to determine who's the bigger liar: Putin or Trump. surfered 7 hrs ago #4
Putin is the better liar because he is smarter. Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #18
Good idea but taking the dome off the Kremlin will do.... Historic NY 7 hrs ago #6
I'm waiting for putins pet structure to get smoked...The kerch bridge... That would burn his ass...nt mitch96 3 hrs ago #23
I doubt this is true, gab13by13 7 hrs ago #8
Putin doesn't need it an excuse. He tried to kill Zelensky the minute he invade Ukraine. Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #19
Yeah, Putin is lying again, MarineCombatEngineer 6 hrs ago #9
100% correct. AZ8theist 5 hrs ago #16
The ruskies even have a name for it,,, Vranyo...He knows he's lying You know he's lying, and it's accepted. mitch96 2 hrs ago #24
Note to Russia: don't start a war if you don't like attacks on your home. sinkingfeeling 6 hrs ago #10
Ukrainians doesn't waste armaments on symbolic targets. CanonRay 6 hrs ago #11
The "state terrorism" is Russia's alone and all its leaders. ancianita 6 hrs ago #12
I tend to believe Ukraine. pandr32 6 hrs ago #13
Boy! What to do? Believe a brave, kind loving leader or the cousin of an elephant turd? chouchou 5 hrs ago #14
So? Bayard 5 hrs ago #15
If the Ukrainians killed Putin Turbineguy 2 hrs ago #26
I fail to see how that would not be appropriate at any point in the last 4 years?? Ukraine gets short-shrived constantly Evolve Dammit 24 min ago #30

in2herbs

(4,170 posts)
21. There are some who say he's already left the planet and that doubles are taking his place. nt
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:20 PM
3 hrs ago

Irish_Dem

(79,487 posts)
27. I think this is possible. Or Putin is in deep hiding and sending out doubles.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 06:04 PM
33 min ago

It is well known that Putin uses body doubles.

Putin has been in obvious bad health for years now.
He could be dead or in very poor health.
Someone else is doing the public appearances.

And the generals, the oligarchs, and the Russian people are turning against Putin.
He could be in hiding because monsters like him are cowards.

Irish_Dem

(79,487 posts)
2. How many times has Putin tried to kill Zelensky?
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:21 AM
7 hrs ago

But then gets butt hurt when the tables are turned!!

tavernier

(14,242 posts)
7. I still think Zelensky shouldn't have eaten the food at
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:34 AM
7 hrs ago

the mar-a-Lago convalescent center yesterday. There are all kinds of poisons out there and Putin in his two hour talk with Rump could have been giving him a recipe for a delayed action deadly potion. Two weeks later Z dies and everyone is blameless.

Irish_Dem

(79,487 posts)
17. Did he actually eat the food or just move it around his plate?
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:32 PM
5 hrs ago

Maybe aides brought him some clean food.

I agree, Zelensky knows Putin wants to kill him.
And Trump would do it as a favor to Putin.

PatSeg

(52,001 posts)
20. Such a classic bully tactic
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:03 PM
3 hrs ago

Commit violence and pain on others, but act outraged if your victims dare to fight back.

It is often seen in domestic violence. "I can hit you justifiably, but if you fight back that gives me license to scale up my violence." I've witnessed and even experienced it over and over again. It is a timeless maneuver from the Bully Playbook.

Irish_Dem

(79,487 posts)
25. Yes exactly. When victims fight back, bullies are furious.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 04:30 PM
2 hrs ago

They claim victim status to justify their ongoing abuse.

PatSeg

(52,001 posts)
28. It is so common, yet so bizarre
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 06:10 PM
27 min ago

It is a cycle that is almost impossible to break, though I've seen some who just slow down with age.

Irish_Dem

(79,487 posts)
29. Trump is just the front man. The snake oil salesman.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 06:11 PM
25 min ago

His minders are the real power.

travelingthrulife

(4,370 posts)
3. Putin is just like NuttyYahoo.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:25 AM
7 hrs ago

Do not accept this deal. You cannot depend on the us Congress to do it's job.

Historic NY

(39,594 posts)
6. Good idea but taking the dome off the Kremlin will do....
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:33 AM
7 hrs ago

now that you have longer range drones

mitch96

(15,618 posts)
23. I'm waiting for putins pet structure to get smoked...The kerch bridge... That would burn his ass...nt
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:33 PM
3 hrs ago

Irish_Dem

(79,487 posts)
19. Putin doesn't need it an excuse. He tried to kill Zelensky the minute he invade Ukraine.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:33 PM
5 hrs ago

And keeps trying.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,585 posts)
9. Yeah, Putin is lying again,
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:40 AM
6 hrs ago

and even if Ukraine had tried to take out Putin, so what?
How many times has Putin tried to take out Pres. Zelensky?
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

mitch96

(15,618 posts)
24. The ruskies even have a name for it,,, Vranyo...He knows he's lying You know he's lying, and it's accepted.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 03:42 PM
2 hrs ago

It's in their culture...
From the google machine:

Vranyo (враньё is a Russian concept for a specific type of lie where both the speaker and listener know it's untrue, but maintain the fiction for social, political, or cultural reasons, often to save face, or navigate absurd realities, unlike a true "lie" (lozh) meant to deceive. It involves a mutual, unspoken agreement to pretend, seen in everything from polite half-truths to state propaganda, where challenging the obvious untruth is impolite or dangerous.

ancianita

(42,778 posts)
12. The "state terrorism" is Russia's alone and all its leaders.
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 11:56 AM
6 hrs ago

Every attack is a confession, especially by the top international criminal Vladimir Putin.

chouchou

(2,756 posts)
14. Boy! What to do? Believe a brave, kind loving leader or the cousin of an elephant turd?
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 12:42 PM
5 hrs ago

Alex: I'll take door #2 for "Probably Trump and Putin hatched this bullshit"

Bayard

(28,425 posts)
15. So?
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 01:03 PM
5 hrs ago

If they did, I hope they keep trying. Its not like Putin hasn't bombed the hell out of Kyiv. But Moscow is off limits. Ukraine has always had to fight with one hand tied behind their back.

Evolve Dammit

(21,445 posts)
30. I fail to see how that would not be appropriate at any point in the last 4 years?? Ukraine gets short-shrived constantly
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 06:12 PM
24 min ago
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