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BumRushDaShow

(165,993 posts)
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:00 AM Sunday

'I don't know how we recover from this': White House insiders alarmed after Noem's quick response to Renee Good shooting

Source: The Independent

Sunday 11 January 2026 01:18 EST


Some White House insiders are stunned by the Trump administration’s rapid response to the deadly Minneapolis shooting and are concerned that it could undermine confidence in the investigation, according to a new Politico report.

Just hours after Renee Nicole Good was fatally shot by an ICE agent in Minneapolis on Wednesday, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem accused the 37-year-old mom of “domestic terrorism,” prompting concern from within the administration and among current and former ICE officials, the report says.

Insiders fear, according to the report, that her message risks “undermining public confidence in the ongoing investigation” and “expanding the credibility gap between the public and the immigration agency.”

“Do I think it’s domestic terrorism? Yeah, I do,” a Politico source close to the White House said. “But it might not have been wise to say that at the outset, how [Noem] said it.”

The Independent has contacted DHS for comment.

Read more: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/minneapolis-shooting-dhs-response-reaction-b2898220.html



Full headline: ‘I don’t know how we recover from this’: White House insiders alarmed after Noem’s quick response to Renee Good shooting, report says
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'I don't know how we recover from this': White House insiders alarmed after Noem's quick response to Renee Good shooting (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sunday OP
We recover from this by putting Noem in prison. mwb970 Sunday #1
Not just Noem. All of them. paleotn Sunday #9
"Expanding the credibility gap..." mwmisses4289 Sunday #2
It's just another way of saying "opening her mouth". nt Xipe Totec Sunday #17
This is one of the biggest events ever bucolic_frolic Sunday #3
Until he does something worse PatSeg Sunday #11
I'd like to think so.... Bayard Sunday #21
Don't forget to put Epstein files in your various search engines as a poster suggested to keep the algorithm actjve electric_blue68 Sunday #25
I know how- but Republicans need a spine if it's going to happen before midterms biophile Sunday #4
They don't recover from it. DEMOCRATS can refuse to fund DHS & ICE unless... CousinIT Sunday #5
Tactics and focus. ICE should be designed to do three things cstanleytech Sunday #13
Interesting, but that would radically alter the Visa and Asylum process MichMan Sunday #14
No, not ever issued one rather if they are here still after it's expired. cstanleytech Sunday #30
The whole thing needs to be DISMANTLED BumRushDaShow Sunday #22
Only if they don't reform it by firing everyone currently employed and add strong background checks and guardrails. cstanleytech Sunday #31
The problem here is this - BumRushDaShow Yesterday #33
"Do I think it's domestic terrorism? Yeah, I do." Lonestarblue Sunday #6
Repukes saw them on Jan 6 and called them "tourists" because their pedo sent them. Justice matters. Sunday #23
Oh it was the response.they still think it was domestic terrorism. choie Sunday #7
Talk about being full of it. OldBaldy1701E Sunday #8
Credibility gap? paleotn Sunday #10
A brain addled narcissist hires only Javaman Sunday #12
We'd heard she might be in the chopping block but I doubt it now underpants Sunday #27
Naaa, she'll be around till the end Javaman Sunday #28
Trump did as well iemanja Sunday #15
"Do I think it's domestic terrorism? Yeah, I do," GiqueCee Sunday #16
What is a terrorist? By Henry Gibson. usonian Sunday #20
Far too many people fell for her lies valleyrogue Sunday #18
She lied about being stuck in the snow GusBob Sunday #19
DHS ICE Terrorism Pas-de-Calais Sunday #24
Trump is encouraging further violence. sop Sunday #26
There's no credibility. chowmama Sunday #29
What investigation? /nt artemisia1 Yesterday #32
It might help Mz Pip Yesterday #34

mwb970

(12,088 posts)
1. We recover from this by putting Noem in prison.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:06 AM
Sunday

We'll even give her a new dress-up costume to wear!

paleotn

(21,623 posts)
9. Not just Noem. All of them.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 09:46 AM
Sunday

The shooter, Lyons, Herr Miller, all of them. I'm so pissed I wouldn't bat an eye if we didn't stop at incarceration. I don't want my tax dollars keeping Herr Miller from starving. Fuck him. I want his ashes scattered to the wind like another evil little secret police fuck, Lavrentiy Beria.

Sic semper tyrannis! We need our own version of Lucius Junius Brutus to put an end to this shit. And an END to them.

mwmisses4289

(3,278 posts)
2. "Expanding the credibility gap..."
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:12 AM
Sunday

You can't expand what was never there.
A Dem has filed articles of impeachment against noem, which shows how you repubs might potentially fix this, by supporting that effort. It's a potential start. Will you do the right thing? You're repubs, so it's doubtful.

bucolic_frolic

(54,108 posts)
3. This is one of the biggest events ever
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:21 AM
Sunday

It could even define this era, and be remembered 50 years hence.

Bayard

(28,676 posts)
21. I'd like to think so....
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 12:41 PM
Sunday

But I see Epstein dropping off the radar.

Ms. Good's murder may have lit the fuse, but it may take more such murders to really turn the tide. ICE pulled guns on 3 Congresswomen a few days ago who were trying to make an inspection of their facility. Situations like that can turn deadly in the blink of an eye.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20927078

electric_blue68

(26,009 posts)
25. Don't forget to put Epstein files in your various search engines as a poster suggested to keep the algorithm actjve
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 01:35 PM
Sunday

biophile

(1,214 posts)
4. I know how- but Republicans need a spine if it's going to happen before midterms
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:33 AM
Sunday

Right now, the Democrats in office have limited legal options, but citizens can still show up.

CousinIT

(12,284 posts)
5. They don't recover from it. DEMOCRATS can refuse to fund DHS & ICE unless...
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:35 AM
Sunday

..they change their tactics, and whatshisname should be charged with murder.

Further, her family is due recompense. Three children lost their mom.

cstanleytech

(28,241 posts)
13. Tactics and focus. ICE should be designed to do three things
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 10:37 AM
Sunday

1. Find illegal immigrants and people who have stayed longer than their visas allowed and require that they register and pay all taxes like everyone else.
Benefit? By registering it protects them from exploitation and they are paying then for infrastructure that they use like everyone else. Second benefit is employers will have more incentive to pay higher wages to everyone as there won't be as many people to exploit and abuse.

2. ICE arrests should be limited to people that refuse to register and those that have committed major felonies only.

3. Arresting employers that knowingly hire and abuse anyone here illegally with stiff prison terms.

MichMan

(16,666 posts)
14. Interesting, but that would radically alter the Visa and Asylum process
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 10:46 AM
Sunday

Under your proposal, anyone who was ever issued a visitor visa, admitted under TPS, or admitted pending asylum (even if denied), would then automatically have permanent residency granted. That doesn't seem feasible.

cstanleytech

(28,241 posts)
30. No, not ever issued one rather if they are here still after it's expired.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:46 PM
Sunday

They need to be currently gainfully employed and they may or may not have to pay a fine but if so it should be a % of if their income rather than a flat rate and people can still be deported if need be, meanwhile they will be chipping in to pay for part of the infrastructure they are using while they are here. Also it's not full citizenship as they can't vote in elections as that's reserved for those with full citizenship.

BumRushDaShow

(165,993 posts)
22. The whole thing needs to be DISMANTLED
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 12:58 PM
Sunday

REVOKE that whole "Immigration/Border" section of this - H.R.5005 - Homeland Security Act of 2002 that cannibalized a dozen agencies to create the monstrosity called the "Department of Homeland Security" and put it BACK to the way it was.

"Customs" used to be under the Department of Treasury (because $$$$$$$$$$$$$$)
"INS" (Immigration and Naturalization Service) used to be under the Department of Justice (because enforcement).

What is going on right now is a redundant waste of money created by Shrub and the GOP.

cstanleytech

(28,241 posts)
31. Only if they don't reform it by firing everyone currently employed and add strong background checks and guardrails.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:56 PM
Sunday

One guardrail would be that they are moved to be under the Judicial branch of the government and not under direct control of the President or Congress.
But otherwise I can see a need for a limited version of ICE who's main goal is first to protect all immigrants by ensuring they register and holding employers criminally responsible rather than the immigrants for the most part as right now it's completely backwards where the immigrants are grossly punished but the employers usually just get a slap on the wrist.

BumRushDaShow

(165,993 posts)
33. The problem here is this -
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:39 AM
Yesterday

"ICE" = "Immigration and Customs Enforcement".

What CUSTOMS stuff are they doing???

Seriously?

My agency worked with Customs people (before and after the reorg that spontaneously created "DHS" ). There was a very "core" function that they were responsible for and it was/is HUGE and critical to the import/export commerce of the U.S. They are inspecting, tracking manifests of ships, trucks, trains, and planes that go in/out of the U.S. with goods. They are also dealing with the monetary side (assessing/collecting/tracking tariffs/fees, etc), which was WHY they were originally under the Department of Treasury.

Then you have this same 2002-manufactured "CBP" = "Customs and Border Protection".

What are they doing other than duplicating "enforcement" at the border?

And what "literal border" is there when you have people handling customs work away from borders with planes that might land in those cities? That concept makes it all confusing using an explicit term of "border" for those Customs employees who are operating inland but know that their work is handling import/export activity happening at inland airports and in some cases, waterways (river/lake ships).

THEN you have the "replacement" of what was "INS" (Immigration and Naturalization Service) that became "USCIS" (U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services) that took on the original "immigration" function.

So "immigration" was essentially merged with "Customs" and then artificially split up into what is now "ICE", "CBP", and "USCIS".

The whole 2002 reorg thing to create DHS was REDUNDANT and they had to "pad it" by taking away employees from the Department of Transportation to create "TSA" (Transportation and Security Administration" ). They ridiculously took some staff from the Department of Agriculture who worked for "APHIS" (Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service" ), who were originally inspecting agricultural goods coming in the U.S. for pests, and who worked at the docks and airports, handed them guns, and made them LEO. I actually worked with a local one, because our agency had a partnership with APHIS and Customs and coordinated reporting and tracking of goods coming/going across the border to cover our respective "missions".

They need to go BACK to an "Immigration" (people) group and a "Customs" (products) group, and then put "enforcement" BACK under DOJ.

Lonestarblue

(13,246 posts)
6. "Do I think it's domestic terrorism? Yeah, I do."
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:41 AM
Sunday

These people can call Good a domestic terrorist, but she clearly was not. She was exercising her Constitutional right to protest. If Republicans need to see real domestic terrorism, all they have to do is watch the January 6 videos.

With this administration, up is down and nothing is done for the public good.

Justice matters.

(9,435 posts)
23. Repukes saw them on Jan 6 and called them "tourists" because their pedo sent them.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 01:03 PM
Sunday

All is done to bury the Epstein files revelations, and it seems to be working at this time.

Every accusation is a confession.

choie

(6,657 posts)
7. Oh it was the response.they still think it was domestic terrorism.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 09:12 AM
Sunday

Assholes. Why even print this article? It means nothing.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,250 posts)
8. Talk about being full of it.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 09:44 AM
Sunday

Insiders fear, according to the report, that her message risks “undermining public confidence in the ongoing investigation” and “expanding the credibility gap between the public and the immigration agency.”

Are they serious?

That is a level of delusion that I was not aware of when it comes to that level of the regime.

I suppose I should not be surprised. Their entire regime is based on delusion anyway.

(Mainly, the delusion that they are on the right side of history. That is one thing that will burst very soon.)

underpants

(195,065 posts)
27. We'd heard she might be in the chopping block but I doubt it now
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 01:50 PM
Sunday

Noem ran out to show her loyalty and fealty which is a regular competition by the cabinet. She jumped in head first on the first day.

Firing her now would be seen as an admission of guilt or being wrong and he’s never wrong

Look, Ross is 18-42 steps away from the Office of the Presidency and that’s any President. Trump thinks anything anywhere negative is tied to him and more importantly to him he thinks that everyone thinks so because everyone MUST be as obsessed with him as he is.

The guy made a horrible mistake. Just start the investigation and show that he has accountability but NO down the line they have to protect Trump.

Javaman

(65,161 posts)
28. Naaa, she'll be around till the end
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 01:56 PM
Sunday

She’s doing the dirty work he’s too chicken shit to do himself

And he has no problem with her self immolating over this

THEN he will get someone else in

GiqueCee

(3,438 posts)
16. "Do I think it's domestic terrorism? Yeah, I do,"
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 11:05 AM
Sunday

Well, "a Politico source close to the White House" can go fuck itself. The terrorism is being inflicted BY the ICE Gestapo, not TO them.
Watch the goddam videos, you simple-minded skidmark!

usonian

(23,651 posts)
20. What is a terrorist? By Henry Gibson.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 11:43 AM
Sunday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220928748

A terrorist carries deadly weapons with the intent of mayhem.
A terrorist hides his identity.
A terrorist wears garb that belies his intent, for example, cosplay law enforcement.
— Remember the phony cops at the Saint Valentine’s Day massacre?
— They were ice-cold-blooded murderers.
A terrorist drives unmarked vehicles.
A terrorist records his own misdeeds.
A terrorist generally is silent.
A terrorist intentionally defies laws.
A terrorist is part of a secret cadre, hidden from disclosure.
A terrorist kills.



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valleyrogue

(2,599 posts)
18. Far too many people fell for her lies
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 11:11 AM
Sunday

about what had happened and think Good somehow brought this on herself. Ditto Trump and Vance. The proper thing would have been to say no comment pending an investigation.

GusBob

(8,136 posts)
19. She lied about being stuck in the snow
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 11:14 AM
Sunday

Anyone could see that wasn’t true, that’s not up for interpretation

Trump lied about the guy being run over

If the guy is prosecuted can these lies be brought up in court?

chowmama

(1,009 posts)
29. There's no credibility.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 02:39 PM
Sunday

Their investigation will never be completed or even really begun. That way, they can argue that they can't (don't have to) deal with anything because "It's still under investigation".

Any evidence that hasn't been completely destroyed already is in a warehouse somewhere next to the Arc of the Covenant.

They have the credibility of cockroaches.

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