Kathleen Wynne to become Ontario’s first female and openly gay premier
Source: National Post
Long-time MPP and McGuinty cabinet minister Kathleen Wynne will become Ontarios next Premier after Liberal party delegates elected her on a third ballot, following a day of drama that saw her pick up late support from Gerard Kennedy and Charles Sousa.
Ms. Wynnes victory foils a number of trends. She is the rare party leader from Toronto, where she represents the riding of Don Valley West, and she will become the provinces first female premier and also its first openly gay premier. Supporters of Sandra Pupatello, who was beaten on the final ballot, had said the Toronto factor would work against Ms. Wynne, and the incoming Premier provided one of the days biggest surprises when she addressed the question of her sexual orientation in her morning speech to delegates, saying Ontarians wouldnt be troubled by it.
It has been a remarkable night, Ms. Wynne said after the results were announced just before 8:30 local time. She thanked her campaign team, her children and her partner, Jane Rounthwaite.
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Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)But she'll have an uphill battle since the Liberals aren't too popular now. Fortunately for her, Ontarians are election-weary and all of the parties coffers are low. Not sure she'll survive a general election.
UrbScotty
(23,980 posts)The next election isn't until 2015, correct?
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)by the fall of this year. If either of the opposition parties feel that they can afford, and win an election than all they have to do is vote in non-confidence against it triggering an election.
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Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Oy.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,311 posts)They head the party in the provincial parliament, and thus the executive. There's no need to modify the term that Canadians use.
DissidentVoice
(813 posts)Head Of State:
USA: President of the United States (elected)
Canada: Queen Elizabeth II (hereditary monarch) appoints Governor-General (Canadian national) to represent her in Canada on advice of Prime Minister of Canada
Head Of Government:
USA: President of the United States (elected)
Canada: Prime Minister of Canada (elected; leader of majority/coalition party in the House of Commons)
State/Provincial Level Chief Executive:
USA: State Governor (elected)
Canada: Lieutenant (pronounced "lef-tenant" -Governor, appointed by the Governor-General; Premier (elected; leader of majority/coalition party in provincial legislature)
Legislative:
USA: Congress - House of Representatives, Senate (both elected)
Canada: Parliament - House of Commons (elected), Senate (members appointed by Queen/GG until age 75)
Civics lesson over.
Trascoli
(194 posts)They must be praised for this one.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)This is a first for Canada, not for the world at all....
ponsheki
(14 posts)But Iceland is a country of 320K people--Ontario is a province of 13 million with 5.5 million in metro Toronto alone. Kathleen will govern over more people than any other openly gay elected official in the world!
Thank you Ontario for making history!
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)her so-called "Liberal" party is enacting, for no good reason, in Ontario. If she's going to follow her predecessor's example and keep governing like Mike Harris, this milestone won't end up meaning a hell of a lot.
DissidentVoice
(813 posts)It's to the left of the Conservative Party, but not nearly as far as the New Democratic Party (as I'm sure you know ).
The Liberals are roughly analogous to the DLC in the Democratic Party, but the Conservatives aren't nearly as far to the right as the U.S. Republican Party.
If I were Canadian I'd probably vote NDP.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)The constitutional setup here is fairly strict about which levels of government can directly manage which things - for example, provincial governments technically have zero say in foreign affairs or national defense, while the federal government (somewhat more technically) doesn't get to be involved in natural resources or education. As a result, a provincial Liberal or Conservative party can sometimes have a fairly different focus than its federal equivalents do.
I still wouldn't vote for the Conservative party in my province (and in fact helped vote them out a few years ago), but I find them dramatically less odious than the federal Conservatives, mostly because they haven't bought into the Republican attitudes quite as badly as the party has at the federal level. (Also, somewhat more cynically, the federal conservatives have active disdain for my part of the country as a primary aspect of their worldview, which results in their butting heads with their provincial partners somewhat regularly.)
Beyond that it can be hard to pigeonhole the Canadian parties relative to the American ones. I would say that a lot of our federal Conservatives are, in fact, trying to steer as far right as the Republicans in the states, owing to so much GOP involvement in the last few elections and the Conservatives' leadership since '03 explicitly setting itself up as the pro-American party, though they aren't quite there yet. The main interests of the other parties are somewhat more hit and miss about aligning with American equivalents, though; something like the NDP simply doesn't exist down there in any relevant manner, for example, and until their recent collapse the Liberals occupied a kind of king-of-the-hill niche that I don't think American politics has ever really had.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Then again, aren't the Conservative Party that governs Canada and the provincial Progressive Conservative parties that contest for power on that level entirely separate organizations?
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Some of the provincial conservative parties have restructured themselves along the line of the federal conservatives ideologically, and others are trying to remain similar to the Progressive Conservatives of the pre-Stockwell Day era. Generally speaking, someone who's active in one of the parties at the provincial level backs them federally as well, though there's exceptions.
Ontario or Alberta conservatives tend not to be far off from the federal ones; Nova Scotia's PCs aren't terribly different than they were a decade or two ago, and the previous conservative premier of Newfoundland, ah, made no secret whatsoever of his hatred of the federal conservatives.
They're interrelated all over the place, but officially they are basically separate creatures, owing mostly to the constitutional separations between the two levels of government.
DissidentVoice
(813 posts)I live within walking distance of the border with Ontario and go over quite a bit...though not as much since wannabe fascist CBP take it upon themselves to selectively bully US citizens coming back to our own country from Canada, treating us like shit for just going to Canada. Thank you, USA Patriot Act.
I rarely have trouble with Canadian customs ("where ya goin'?" "any firearms or pepper spray?" "any tobacco?" "No? OK, have a good day" ...it's coming back that sucks.
I don't know much about the Ontario and Alberta Tories directly, since of course I'm not Canadian (sigh), don't live there (unfortunately!) and can't vote there. I do remember that Mike Harris' Conservatives came to power in Ontario about the same time that we had the 1994 Gingrich sweep here, but Jean Chretien's Liberals were still in power nationally.
I have never been to Alberta but from what I have been told, politically it's the most like a U.S. farm/oil belt state...quite conservative. I do remember something about former Premier Ralph Klein wanting to institute user fees for health care and having private clinics at some level...again I don't know specifics.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)But they don't stand for ANY of those things now.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Hopefully a trend
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Canada still needs to have its first First Nations, Metis, or "visible minority" head of government, among other things.
DissidentVoice
(813 posts)Her sexuality is just part and parcel of who and what she is as a person.
If I were an Ontario resident/voter, the only thing I would concern myself with is what she could do for the people in her province in keeping with the Canadian ideals of "peace, order and good government."
Don't get me wrong, I'm pleased that Ontarians thought she was the best person for the job and she can be justly proud of what she's achieved. I congratulate her. But I think she should just be looked at as Kathleen Wynne, Premier of the Province of Ontario...who just happens to be a lesbian.
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)She wasn't elected by Ontarians in a general election. She was elected by the Liberal party to replace McGuinty.
I think the Liberals had a real problem between their 2 front runners because Pupatello was out of office, and is a corporate stooge at a time when many people are resentful to the corporate realm, and Wynne who might be able to leverage her past as a school board trustee to smooth over the Liberal's recent Bill 155 fiasco. But the teacher's union claims they won't forget, and in fact had 25,000 people protesting outside of Maple Leaf Gardens (barely mentioned in the news).
I personally agree that her sexual orientation should not matter one iota, but its not going to help a party thats already in trouble. A poll conducted on the eve of the convention showed that the NDP would win the popular vote but loose the electoral vote to the Conservatives if an election was held now.
DissidentVoice
(813 posts)However, I wasn't aware there was a difference in popular/electoral vote in Canada. Does Canada have something like our (stupid) Electoral College?
Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)we don't have ideal equal representation here. Many ridings are geographically based and don't adequately factor in population density. So some underpopulated rural ridings reliably elect conservatives to represent their cattle and fruit trees. Gerrymandering happens here too, though not on the rampant scale of the US.
DissidentVoice
(813 posts)That's what we have with the (stupid) Electoral College.
I live near the border, and the ridings nearest me (Sarnia-Lambton, Chatham-Kent-Essex) do seem to have gone Conservative, both federally and provincially...kind of odd with all the auto workers in Windsor and chemical workers in Sarnia...