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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:11 PM Jan 2013

Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands abdicates in favour of son

Source: Guardian

Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, the oldest reigning Dutch monarch, announced her abdication on Monday evening in a sudden move three days before her 75th birthday.

After 33 years on the throne following her mother's abdication in 1980, Beatrix said she would relinquish the crown at the end of April, leaving the monarchy to Crown-Prince Willem-Alexander, the oldest of her three sons.

The queen went on national television and radio on Monday evening to announce the departure, having recorded the broadcast earlier in the day. The prime minister, Mark Rutte, delivered a statement on television shortly afterwards, with both stressing that the crown prince had been intensively prepared for the role of monarch.

"The queen was there for us in good times, but also in bad times. Her knowledge and compassion made her an icon of the Netherlands," Rutte said in his statement.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/28/queen-beatrix-netherlands-abdicates

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Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands abdicates in favour of son (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jan 2013 OP
Classy. SheilaT Jan 2013 #1
Wow. derby378 Jan 2013 #2
God bless her and I hope she enjoys her retirement. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #3
My grandparents came from Amsterdam, Worried senior Jan 2013 #4
Is he single? Myrina Jan 2013 #5
No, married to a beautiful woman called Maxima. SwissTony Jan 2013 #14
"A member of the Bilderberg Group" "Among Europe's wealthiest" loudsue Jan 2013 #6
why do European countries keep royalty around? Mosby Jan 2013 #7
Don't worry about it. dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #8
I don't think anyone is "worried about it". ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2013 #9
Costs us a dollar a year each. dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #11
Think of how many bombs you could be making with that money. progressoid Jan 2013 #12
Isn't the Dutch royal family wealthy in its own right? Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #13
You still need someone to cut the ribbon at train station openings... brooklynite Jan 2013 #10
Not just European countries. The Canadian Head of State is Queen Elizabeth II (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #15
Because they want to. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #23
Count me among the anti-royal types fishiefish Jan 2013 #16
The role of the Dutch Royal Family during WWII is worth reading about obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #17
I wish the Q of UK Ghost Dog Jan 2013 #18
She's a figurehead dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #19
You're fast. And right... Ghost Dog Jan 2013 #20
Could do better. For example: Ghost Dog Jan 2013 #21
United States Air Force in the United Kingdom dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #24
2011 census shows Forest Heath District Council has 13% of inhabitants born in the USA muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #27
Note here re. Forest Heath dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #28
Detailed numbers (for all of England and Wales) here: muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #29
after they leave ....... dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #32
Reply here, mate. Ghost Dog Feb 2013 #31
There's a bit of irony that you link to a Spanish radio station muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #22
Ok. Thanx guys. Ghost Dog Feb 2013 #30
Nethermind underpants Jan 2013 #25
lol dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #26

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
14. No, married to a beautiful woman called Maxima.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jan 2013

They have a couple of kids.

She's very popular in Holland (I live in Holland).

Mosby

(16,306 posts)
7. why do European countries keep royalty around?
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:54 PM
Jan 2013

Just in case democracy does not work out?

I think the whole thing is fucking weird.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
9. I don't think anyone is "worried about it".
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 05:11 PM
Jan 2013

If your country wants to piss away 113m a year then by all means. Mosby was just asking a question and I think its valid.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
11. Costs us a dollar a year each.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 05:24 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:13 PM - Edit history (1)

What you got for a dollar ?

Yes - should've said don't be concerned.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
10. You still need someone to cut the ribbon at train station openings...
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 05:23 PM
Jan 2013

From what I understand, the Dutch Monarchy is a pretty low cost operation.

 

fishiefish

(23 posts)
16. Count me among the anti-royal types
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:23 PM
Jan 2013

It would be like me walking around in a pirates outfit and demanding to be taken seriously.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
17. The role of the Dutch Royal Family during WWII is worth reading about
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jan 2013

Queen Wilhelmina and her family escaped to Britain, where she set up a government, and was a huge morale booster for those living under the Nazis in the Netherlands. Or so family friends who lived through all of this have said, as well as reading I've done.

Her SIL, Princess *and later Queen) Juliana's husband Prince Bernard, was an RAF Wing Commander, and was an active fighter pilot during WWII.

I find them one of the more interesting of Europe's monarchies.

on edit: Queen Wilhelmina had to be forced to flee the Netherlands during the Nazi invasion. She wanted to retreat to a more remote part of her country. Advisers convinced her she would be defeated and captured, and would be more use in an exile government. She was. She was also about 60 when this happened. She kicked ass.

It's worth reading the WWII part: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelmina_of_the_Netherlands#World_War_II

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
19. She's a figurehead
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:28 PM
Jan 2013

Doing just fine as far as c. 70% of our population are concerned which is all that matters.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
21. Could do better. For example:
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jan 2013

How come US military is still all over UK? Didn't we pay them off already?

¿Madame?

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
24. United States Air Force in the United Kingdom
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 06:00 AM
Jan 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_in_the_United_Kingdom

I think they may have been uprated a bit due to Iraq. Funnily enough the son-in-law of a friend in US is on his second placement whatever at RAF Molesworth now. When he's here he doesn't actually leave the country.

Madame ? : no Bloke/Geezer.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
27. 2011 census shows Forest Heath District Council has 13% of inhabitants born in the USA
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:48 AM
Jan 2013

due to the Mildenhall and Lakenheath American airbases. Only only other council in the whole country has a higher percentage of people born in another country other than the UK - Tower Hamlets, with people born in Bangladesh (15.3%).

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
28. Note here re. Forest Heath
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:20 AM
Jan 2013

In March 2011, the population of Forest Heath was 59,700, made up of 25,400 households. These figures suggest that Forest Heath has grown by nearly 7.5% over the last ten years. Whilst the population has been ageing, the district had a more youthful profile than the rest of the region, with almost two thirds of the population being working age (15-64) and only 5% aged 65 or over, an update of this information from Census 2011 will not be available until later in the year.

Forest Heath is the most ethnically diverse district in Suffolk (13.2% of the population was non-white in June 2009, compared to the national average of 12.5%) and has the largest foreign population in the county. The 2009 Annual Population Survey suggested that over 15% of the population are non-UK nationals, compared to a Suffolk average of 4.2%.

The district's diversity and youthful age profile can be attributed to the presence of the United States Air Force in Europe (USAFE) bases in Mildenhall and Lakenheath and the number of migrant workers in the district's horse racing and agricultural industries.

http://www.forest-heath.gov.uk/info/100004/council_and_democracy/526/about_the_district

Your figure was 13% which represents about 7700. I'm not disputing it but sounds a bit high for two bases ?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
29. Detailed numbers (for all of England and Wales) here:
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jan 2013
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census/2011-census/key-statistics-for-local-authorities-in-england-and-wales/rft-table-qs203ew.xls

59,748 people, with 7,746 people born in the USA. Perhaps there's a tendency for some Americans to stay in the area after they leave the Air Force?

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
32. after they leave .......
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 06:56 PM
Feb 2013

By coincidence my neighbour , who is from St Louis , was based here mid fifties with the US Army down the road apiece at the old Linconsfield base where the US 8th Airforce Fighter Command was during the war and he did exactly that - stayed here.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
22. There's a bit of irony that you link to a Spanish radio station
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:17 PM
Jan 2013

Spain - Prop.: His Majesty Juan Carlos Alfonso Víctor María de Borbón y Borbón-Dos Sicilias

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
30. Ok. Thanx guys.
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 06:41 PM
Feb 2013


Bloke I was talking to in a pub in S. Devon on my way through (to catch the ferry out) the other day, local, with a son in the RAF based at one of those (shared) locations down in Cornwall, watching the Western Approaches, mentioned that in some recent highly technical exercises the UK lads did a better job than the cousins, by far, he said he said...

Now, a bit of healthy competition and/or collaboration can sometimes be a fine thing. That way everybody wins, right? Only question is: who pays; who really pays... in the end.

Similarly, in Spain. The Rota base, amongst many others, for example, is essencial to the USA's current projection of power, um, let's just say, beyond its borders. I'm sure much is learned and/or otherwise gained from such, uh, collaboration, by all sides. But, nevertheless, one has to ask: Who's paying? Who's really paying? What price?

Edit: ... And, by way of laterally-thinking illustration I'll append today's following DU thread from the fine Octafish: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022304958

¡Salud! Santé.

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