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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:49 PM Feb 2013

Benedict XVI to Keep His Name and Become Pope Emeritus

Source: NY Times

Pope Benedict XVI will keep the name Benedict XVI and become the Roman pontiff emeritus or pope emeritus, the Vatican announced Tuesday, putting an end to days of speculation on how the pope will be addressed once he ceases to be the leader of the world’s 1.1 billion Roman Catholics on Thursday.

Benedict, the first pope to resign voluntarily in six centuries, will dress in a simple white cassock, forgoing the mozzetta, the elbow-length cape worn by some Catholic clergymen, the Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, told reporters at a news briefing.

And he will no longer wear the red shoes typically worn by popes, symbolizing the blood of the martyrs, Father Lombardi said, opting instead for a more quotidian brown. “Mexicans will be happy to know that the pope very much appreciated the shoes” he received as a gift last year in León, Mexico, he added. “He finds them very comfortable.” It was after the grueling trip in March 2012 that the pope began to seriously consider resigning, the Vatican said after the pope announced his resignation on Feb. 11.

Father Lombardi said the pope had decided on his couture in consultation with other Vatican officials. Benedict will also stop using the so-called fisherman’s ring to seal documents. It will be destroyed by the cardinal camerlengo, the acting head of state of Vatican City during the “sede vacante,” the canon law term used when the papacy is vacant.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/27/world/europe/benedict-xvi-to-keep-his-name-and-become-pope-emeritus.html?_r=0

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Benedict XVI to Keep His Name and Become Pope Emeritus (Original Post) Redfairen Feb 2013 OP
The Catholic Church can spend more time on useless stuff Botany Feb 2013 #1
And any cardinals who didn't like it got a blast of Force Lightning, I presume? Arkana Feb 2013 #2
I think "Pope in Hiding" is more appropriate. nt SunSeeker Feb 2013 #3
Emeritus faculty enlightenment Feb 2013 #4
Oh, is that what they're calling kiddie-chasers now? sofa king Feb 2013 #5
I would have preferred "defendant". nt Jerry442 Feb 2013 #6
Ah, now I see what the crafty little Nazi was up to Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #7
X-Pope Benedict's Plan won't work for long..Bible Prophecy okplowboy Feb 2013 #23
Don't believe in prophecy Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #26
I think he should change it to KamaAina Feb 2013 #8
What if the new pope feels unwell one day will he call on Benny to teach asjr Feb 2013 #9
If religion were real SCVDem Feb 2013 #10
Ramen formercia Feb 2013 #11
For thine is the cannelini, the parmesan, and the garlic, forever. nt Jerry442 Feb 2013 #12
I like this quote by Epicurus: Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #17
I think that you are forgetting about free will of man. lexx21 Feb 2013 #29
+1 cleanhippie Feb 2013 #30
On Majipoor, we send Pontifexes to live out their lives in the Labyrinth. n/t Orsino Feb 2013 #13
Are the Brits using the Tower of London? nt SCVDem Feb 2013 #19
So his new spinmaster rap name will be Ben EP? Javaman Feb 2013 #14
The Cowardly NAZI pope & His Retirement Scam... triplepoint Feb 2013 #15
I am not a fan at all of his nor am i a member of his church, but I think your post is a bit much. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #21
retirement scam? jzodda Feb 2013 #25
Did that feel good? Your 840high Feb 2013 #27
That's a twist. defacto7 Feb 2013 #16
The Church needs a CEO they can fire when things get too hot. hunter Feb 2013 #18
I Would Rather He were Dressed in Prison Blues. Wolf Frankula Feb 2013 #20
Will this become the new tradition? If so, will they end up opening an Old Popes' Home? Ken Burch Feb 2013 #22
And please take this Pope-Emeritus Snuggie®..... DeSwiss Feb 2013 #24
What a fucking joke. tabasco Feb 2013 #28

Botany

(70,516 posts)
1. The Catholic Church can spend more time on useless stuff
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:53 PM
Feb 2013

Brown shoes and not red shoes and this bunch of hooey;

Father Lombardi said the pope had decided on his couture in consultation with other Vatican officials. Benedict will also stop using the so-called fisherman’s ring to seal documents. It will be destroyed by the cardinal camerlengo, the acting head of state of Vatican City during the “sede vacante,” the canon law term used when the papacy is vacant.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
4. Emeritus faculty
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:59 PM
Feb 2013

are often given the right to teach classes at their former campus; I wonder what the papal equivalent would be?

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
7. Ah, now I see what the crafty little Nazi was up to
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:17 PM
Feb 2013

He intends to stay in power and let someone else take the heat for his crimes.

okplowboy

(2 posts)
23. X-Pope Benedict's Plan won't work for long..Bible Prophecy
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:05 AM
Feb 2013

Last edited Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:48 AM - Edit history (1)

The X-Pope Benedict will to be planing to hide out from his sins and crimes, as we have all heard, but maybe not where we think. Maybe he'll be on a beach on some Caribbean Island, instead of praying in a private area of the Vatican, he'll could be there praying for another Margaretta, and praying that no one recognizes him for his present or past sins. While the whole world thinks that he is wonderful for his dedication of prayer in the Vatican hideout, he could be studying his next prey on the beach.

Will Jesus return to destroy him before something like that happens? I think so.

I was reading the Bible and came across this prophecy about a man of sin that really describes this Pope Benedict as the main subject. Here it is:

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work Catholic Church had begun ) only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.( Resigns )

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed ( SINS and Crimes ) , whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2Th 2 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
2Th 2:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Prepare for the second coming of Christ Jesus!

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
26. Don't believe in prophecy
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:52 AM
Feb 2013

and I don't believe Jesus is ever coming back. His followers would just crucify him again like last time.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
9. What if the new pope feels unwell one day will he call on Benny to teach
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:29 PM
Feb 2013

his class that day? If so maybe he can wear his red ballet slippers.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
10. If religion were real
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:35 PM
Feb 2013

Then God would not have allowed this to happen.

Here comes the reasons I gave up all organized religious belief. (Feel free to add to them!)

It's God's will.
God works in mysterious ways
It's all part of a bigger plan.
Man was not meant to know.
Our minds are too small to comprehend.
Don't question the church.
Ask questions, go to Hell

and finally, God said it, I believe it and that's that!

Religion, the other people control device next to war!

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
17. I like this quote by Epicurus:
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:29 PM
Feb 2013

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then He is not omnipotent.
Is He able, but not willing? Then He is malevolent.
Is He both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is He neither able nor willing? Then why call Him God?

I'll add to your list the very common sentiment expressed after some tragedy where mass deaths ensued and one lucky survivor says: "God saved me!" ... completely ignoring the glaring obvious counterpoint to that, which is if "God" had the power to save that person, God must be one tremendous asshole to either cause or at least not prevent the deaths of the rest of the poor schmucks who perished.

lexx21

(321 posts)
29. I think that you are forgetting about free will of man.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:22 PM
Feb 2013

Any organization that says "don't question the church" you should run away from very quickly. Jim Jones comes to mind on this one. The rest of the list that you gave sound like the responses of someone who is either ignorant or wants to have their hand in your pocket for one reason or another. I'm not calling you ignorant by any means, but the idiots that would say that to you.

I can understand your point. A lot of people become pious after a point. Think "Church Lady" on this one.

Some churches are really good and do good for the community. Some are self righteous fashion shows. The key is finding one of the good ones.

 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
15. The Cowardly NAZI pope & His Retirement Scam...
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:34 PM
Feb 2013

He's Hiding From Prosecution...for covering up all the buggering that his priests got into. And then, there's his NAZI past...
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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
21. I am not a fan at all of his nor am i a member of his church, but I think your post is a bit much.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:09 AM
Feb 2013

Some people may see this and get turned off. You probably disagree and that is cool, but I had to get that off my chest. Rant over.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
25. retirement scam?
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:45 AM
Feb 2013

The man is in his mid 80s. I am not religious and have been critical of the church's history and present day tactics. The modern day church has a ton of problems and nobody disputes that.

I still don't like you post but for you to post those captions I am sure you don't really care.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
16. That's a twist.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:57 PM
Feb 2013

No bishop I spoke with thought he would be anything but Cardinal Razinger again; that was the message in the pipe. I guess the Vatican/cardinal ruling elite decided otherwise.

Don't you just love religious entertainment. So tense, so colorful... yet so worthless.

hunter

(38,317 posts)
18. The Church needs a CEO they can fire when things get too hot.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:44 PM
Feb 2013

With this precedent a "board of directors" can fire a Pope if, say, he gets caught laundering money, ripping off wealthy elderly widows, or molesting children.

The Church is modernizing. They're adopting a corporate style of management so they can say, "Look, we fired the guy..." just like BP fired Tony Hayward when, after the oil spill, he told a reporter "...we're sorry for the massive disruption it's caused to their lives. There's no one who wants this thing over more than I do, I'd like my life back" and then sailed away on his yacht.

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
20. I Would Rather He were Dressed in Prison Blues.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:35 AM
Feb 2013

I also read the red shoes were descended from the red caligae worn by Roman emperors. Of course Renaissance and Baroque era Venetian whores were also required to wear red shoes. You may draw from that what conclusions you will.

Wolf

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
22. Will this become the new tradition? If so, will they end up opening an Old Popes' Home?
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:31 AM
Feb 2013

That will certainly change the "Early Bird Special" crowd at Denny's.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
24. And please take this Pope-Emeritus Snuggie®.....
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:21 AM
Feb 2013

...(with matching head warmer) with you as a parting gift! And don't let the doorknob, etc. etc, etc.....







''For evil to flourish, it only requires good men to do nothing.'' ~Simon Wiesenthal

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