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Omaha Steve

(99,618 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 11:42 PM Mar 2013

Machinists oppose knives on aircraft

Source: Work Day Minnesota

WASHINGTON - The International Association of Machinists & Aerospace Workers opposes new airline safety rules that allow passengers to take small knives on commercial airline flights.

The decision by the Transportation Security Administration lifts a ban that had been in place since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

“The IAM strongly opposes the newly announced relaxation of prohibited items and calls for a repeal of this change, said General Vice President Sito Pantoja. "Allowing any type of weapon on an aircraft endangers the safety of both flight attendants and the flying public. It makes no sense for the TSA to allow clubs and knives to pass through security, but not a cup of coffee."

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://www.workdayminnesota.org/index.php?news_6_5462




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Machinists oppose knives on aircraft (Original Post) Omaha Steve Mar 2013 OP
Because they don't sell clubs & knives at the airport. They do, however, sell bottled water & coffee Ian David Mar 2013 #1
Yes, and the drinks are multiples more expensive on the "secure" side of the airport HoneychildMooseMoss Mar 2013 #2
Exactly. n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #4
How many permissable items can be used as weapons? LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #3
CDs for sure. They break into shards fairly easily. uppityperson Mar 2013 #6
Eye glasses - can also be broken into shards. canoeist52 Mar 2013 #7
If you can find ones that are actually glass theKed Mar 2013 #9
Break off the arms and you can poke out an eye. MrSlayer Mar 2013 #13
Maybe, but it would depend upon how exactly you broke off the person's arms. Kennah Mar 2013 #14
Well, being an ardent fan of The Walking Dead gives me a few ideas for that. MrSlayer Mar 2013 #17
You could really clobber someone with an old IBM ThinkPad slackmaster Mar 2013 #19
Yeah, But They Don't Have Pistol Grips, Hi-Cap Magazines, Or Flash Suppressors. Paladin Mar 2013 #20
I heard on the news that you can even bring a bat on board. Who came up with that ... BlueJazz Mar 2013 #5
And lacrosse sticks and hockey sticks and golf clubs (but only 2)… hedda_foil Mar 2013 #8
So long as she stays in her cage, and doesn't fly around the passenger compartment, what's the harm? Kennah Mar 2013 #15
What's their take on shampoo? nt valerief Mar 2013 #10
Not to be taken internally Kennah Mar 2013 #16
I see their point but I think it will just stir up more anti-union sentiment among travellers Populist_Prole Mar 2013 #11
WTH??? I can't take more than 3 oz of shampoor, but I can bring a KNIFE??? AllyCat Mar 2013 #12
Here's a reductio ad absurdum for ya... gadjitfreek Mar 2013 #18
Except knives ARE weapons. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #21
They say it makes no sense, but it makes perfect sense. hughee99 Mar 2013 #22
2. Yes, and the drinks are multiples more expensive on the "secure" side of the airport
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 11:47 PM
Mar 2013

than they are in regular stores.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
13. Break off the arms and you can poke out an eye.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:00 AM
Mar 2013

I always take sharp pencils on a plane with me for a weapon. No one questions pencils.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
17. Well, being an ardent fan of The Walking Dead gives me a few ideas for that.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:17 AM
Mar 2013

A good compound fracture can be quite useful as a weapon.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
19. You could really clobber someone with an old IBM ThinkPad
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:04 AM
Mar 2013

They're strong, heavy, and even have sharp corners.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
20. Yeah, But They Don't Have Pistol Grips, Hi-Cap Magazines, Or Flash Suppressors.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:47 AM
Mar 2013

So what's the point?


(Sarcasm alert, for those in need.)
 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
5. I heard on the news that you can even bring a bat on board. Who came up with that ...
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 11:58 PM
Mar 2013

... ridiculous idea ??

I can just see the damn things flying all over the cabin...pissing and shitting on everybody. Great fucking idea.

hedda_foil

(16,373 posts)
8. And lacrosse sticks and hockey sticks and golf clubs (but only 2)…
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:07 AM
Mar 2013

And pocket knives but not boxcutters or water or baby bottles without a serious fight with your friendly neighborhood TSA agent With priorities like that, what could possibly go wrong?

Kennah

(14,261 posts)
15. So long as she stays in her cage, and doesn't fly around the passenger compartment, what's the harm?
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:02 AM
Mar 2013

AllyCat

(16,184 posts)
12. WTH??? I can't take more than 3 oz of shampoor, but I can bring a KNIFE???
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 02:35 AM
Mar 2013

What the freak is going on? In what universe is this okay?

gadjitfreek

(399 posts)
18. Here's a reductio ad absurdum for ya...
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:24 AM
Mar 2013

How about we just simply strip and handcuff airline passengers and just stack 'em like cordwood into the plane? Would keep everyone safe!

ANYTHING could be used as a weapon. Now that people know what terrorists do it's unlikely people will ever allow it to happen again. We've given up enough for the privilege of flying.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
22. They say it makes no sense, but it makes perfect sense.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:01 PM
Mar 2013

If the goal is to make the flight easier to secure, sure it makes no sense, but does anyone really believe that's what the TSA is designed to do these days? It's all about keeping people in fear.

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