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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 07:03 AM Mar 2013

Black Smoke (Again) As Morning Fails to Bring New Pope

Source: Reuters

Black smoke as morning fails to bring new pope

By Barry Moody and Catherine Hornby
VATICAN CITY | Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:56am EDT

(Reuters) - Cardinals in secret conclave failed twice on Wednesday morning to elect a new pope, as black smoke over the Sistine Chapel showed ballots on the first full day of voting were inconclusive.

After an inconclusive first vote on Tuesday night, the 115 cardinal electors should hold another two ballots later on Wednesday after praying for inspiration from God for a choice that can lead the Roman Catholic Church out of crisis.

Having spent the night closeted in a nearby guesthouse, the cardinals attended Mass in the Pauline Chapel in the Vatican's Apostolic Palace and returned to the Renaissance splendor of the Sistine Chapel to hold the two morning ballots.

They face a tough task in finding one of their number capable of facing a string of scandals and internal strife which are thought to have contributed to Pope Benedict's decision in February to become the first pontiff in 600 years to resign.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/13/us-pope-succession-idUSBRE92808520130313

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Black Smoke (Again) As Morning Fails to Bring New Pope (Original Post) Hissyspit Mar 2013 OP
I've seen Lost. Black smoke is never good. alarimer Mar 2013 #1
They are using a smoke bomb to make the black smoke Renew Deal Mar 2013 #8
well, it's not always bad... snooper2 Mar 2013 #24
They face a tough task in finding one of their number TexasTowelie Mar 2013 #2
What makes you think they don't want a pope who will continue the cover-ups BlueStreak Mar 2013 #9
Personally I don't believe there is anyone who has made even the rank of bishop with clean hands Marrah_G Mar 2013 #19
U.S. Networks Told The Cardinals To Elect A Pope In Prime Time For American Viewers..... global1 Mar 2013 #3
Told by who? leftynyc Mar 2013 #4
Per State Farm TV Ads - I Heard It On The Internet - Bon Jour... global1 Mar 2013 #5
Oh - I agree about that leftynyc Mar 2013 #7
Praying for inspiration? voltage spyker Mar 2013 #6
But we don't know what fires Benedict was able to put out. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #12
This begs the question. go west young man Mar 2013 #10
I do. I was really hoping to hear about the sequester this week. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #13
Hopefully the conclave area is well vented and there are CO detectors. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #11
who is handeling merchandising for the production ? olddots Mar 2013 #14
Oh noez another day without a pope. maxsolomon Mar 2013 #15
I just think it's cool that they do this in the Sistine Chapel. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #16
What would happen if all of the cardinals died before they could elect someone? LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #17
Fresh from his North Korean adventures Bosonic Mar 2013 #18
Sunday: Green smoke as Saint Patrick named honorary Pope! truthisfreedom Mar 2013 #20
Seems to me if their divine insight was so strong, they'd get it right the first time, no? tomm2thumbs Mar 2013 #21
Maybe they can go on "Christian Mingle" Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #22
The problem is... Dr. Strange Mar 2013 #23
*Yawn* SoapBox Mar 2013 #25
I would be funny if they were trying for white smoke and it just kept coming out black... Kalidurga Mar 2013 #26

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
8. They are using a smoke bomb to make the black smoke
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 08:25 AM
Mar 2013

It looks way too powerful to me. It billows thick black smoke. The world doesn't need that kind of certainty.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
24. well, it's not always bad...
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 01:55 PM
Mar 2013

unless it runs away on ya LOL

(NOTE- This video is also a lesson in how to stay calm, cool and collected )




TexasTowelie

(112,167 posts)
2. They face a tough task in finding one of their number
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 07:08 AM
Mar 2013

who didn't participate in a covering up a scandal already.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
9. What makes you think they don't want a pope who will continue the cover-ups
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 09:34 AM
Mar 2013

All of these Cardinals are waist deep in scandal. Why would any of them want to bring in a guy who is going to clean house? They are all in the sewer together.

On the contrary, the debate is probably about who will be the most devious at hiding the scandals and keeping all of the church hierarchy fat and happy, with an uninterrupted supply of young boys.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
19. Personally I don't believe there is anyone who has made even the rank of bishop with clean hands
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:40 PM
Mar 2013

Promotion within the church is political, not spiritual. Anyone strong enough to stand up against the unethical behavior of other clergy would NEVER be promoted. The entire church hierarchy is based on protecting Rome and it's brand. Rock the boat and you find yourself with no uppper movement and perhaps even sent to more difficult posts.

global1

(25,245 posts)
3. U.S. Networks Told The Cardinals To Elect A Pope In Prime Time For American Viewers.....
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 07:15 AM
Mar 2013

I didn't think there would be a Pope elected in the middle of our night here in the good old U S of A. That wouldn't be good for all the U.S. Networks that sent people to Rome to cover this event. That white smoke needs to pour out of that smokestack when it is in the middle of the day here in the U.S. so that they can give us wall to wall coverage and analysis.

Just like sports events provide stops for TV during commercials - the Cardinals where told not to elect a pope in the middle of the US night.

global1

(25,245 posts)
5. Per State Farm TV Ads - I Heard It On The Internet - Bon Jour...
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 07:43 AM
Mar 2013

I forgot to say 'sarcasm' in my previous post.

Just trying to be funny. But think about it. It would be devastating to the networks if they elected a Pope in the middle of our night.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
7. Oh - I agree about that
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 07:53 AM
Mar 2013

and certainly wouldn't be surprised if they took it into consideration considering how many Catholics are in this country and there is speculation that the new Pope may come from the US. I just wondered if they had confirmed that in some way.

voltage spyker

(4 posts)
6. Praying for inspiration?
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 07:47 AM
Mar 2013

"The 115 cardinal electors should hold another two ballots later on Wednesday after praying for inspiration from God for a choice that can lead the Roman Catholic Church out of crisis."

Because that worked so well last time.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
12. But we don't know what fires Benedict was able to put out.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 11:57 AM
Mar 2013

Let's face it, as head of the Inquisition he knew where the bodies were buried. Maybe he stayed on as Pope just long enough to make sure they stayed buried.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
13. I do. I was really hoping to hear about the sequester this week.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:08 PM
Mar 2013

And now NPR is all Papal Conclave and black smoke.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
11. Hopefully the conclave area is well vented and there are CO detectors.
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 11:55 AM
Mar 2013

Otherwise if this goes on too long and they take too many votes there could be a lot of dead Cardinals.

Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
18. Fresh from his North Korean adventures
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:37 PM
Mar 2013
NBA Star Dennis Rodman Backs Black Pope

After raising eyebrows by going to North Korea, former U.S. basketball star Dennis Rodman is continuing his bizarre global tour by visiting Rome, purportedly to help Ghanaian Cardinal Peter Turkson become the first black pope. (March 13)


truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
20. Sunday: Green smoke as Saint Patrick named honorary Pope!
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 01:16 PM
Mar 2013

In other news, snakes were seen streaming from the Vatican...

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
21. Seems to me if their divine insight was so strong, they'd get it right the first time, no?
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 01:36 PM
Mar 2013

Oh wait, they are blowing smoke up our.... chimneys

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
22. Maybe they can go on "Christian Mingle"
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 01:39 PM
Mar 2013

and find "God's match" of a Pope for them.

... at the whole ridiculous charade

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
25. *Yawn*
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 02:00 PM
Mar 2013

...black smoke? Again?

Sorry, but I just don't give a crap what color it is.

Pointy hats...red shoes...child molestors...creepy.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
26. I would be funny if they were trying for white smoke and it just kept coming out black...
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 02:07 PM
Mar 2013

Or if it came out a different color like pink. I don't think I could resist the urge to change the formula of whatever they are smoking to not come out different colors.

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