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hue

(4,949 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:10 PM Mar 2013

CPAC Participant Defends Slavery At Minority Outreach Panel: It Gave ‘Food And Shelter’ To Blacks

Source: THINKPROGRESS

NATIONAL HARBOR, Maryland — A panel at the Conservative Political Action Committee on Republican minority outreach exploded into controversy on Friday afternoon, after an audience member defended slavery as good for African-Americans.

The exchange occurred after an audience member from North Carolina, 30-year-old Scott Terry, asked whether Republicans could endorse races remaining separate but equal. After the presenter, K. Carl Smith of Frederick Douglass Republicans, answered by referencing a letter by Frederick Douglass forgiving his former master, the audience member said “For what? For feeding him and housing him?” Several people in the audience cheered and applauded Terry’s outburst.

After the exchange, Terry muttered under his breath, “why can’t we just have segregation?” noting the Constitution’s protections for freedom of association. Watch it:

NATIONAL HARBOR, Maryland — A panel at the Conservative Political Action Committee on Republican minority outreach exploded into controversy on Friday afternoon, after an audience member defended slavery as good for African-Americans.

The exchange occurred after an audience member from North Carolina, 30-year-old Scott Terry, asked whether Republicans could endorse races remaining separate but equal. After the presenter, K. Carl Smith of Frederick Douglass Republicans, answered by referencing a letter by Frederick Douglass forgiving his former master, the audience member said “For what? For feeding him and housing him?” Several people in the audience cheered and applauded Terry’s outburst.

After the exchange, Terry muttered under his breath, “why can’t we just have segregation?” noting the Constitution’s protections for freedom of association. Watch it:

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Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/15/1729331/cpac-slavery-minority-outreach/
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CPAC Participant Defends Slavery At Minority Outreach Panel: It Gave ‘Food And Shelter’ To Blacks (Original Post) hue Mar 2013 OP
hue Diclotican Mar 2013 #1
always looking for that silver lining.. frylock Mar 2013 #2
Little harts and pointed heads... or is that just... reACTIONary Mar 2013 #15
When are Black people going to learn that the Republican party of today is LoisB Mar 2013 #3
There are always going to be a few misled fools who vote for them, Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #46
unbelievable - hollysmom Mar 2013 #4
OMG! Also from the article at the link... Tx4obama Mar 2013 #5
wtf bloomington-lib Mar 2013 #16
Yow! Only 30 years old, many more years to spread that stuff. This needs to go viral. They're nuts. freshwest Mar 2013 #26
Racism and sexism seem to go hand in hand siligut Mar 2013 #50
So he's a racist, anti-equality and anti-woman sakabatou Mar 2013 #58
k&r for racist evidence of the GOP party nt steve2470 Mar 2013 #6
It takes a special kind of ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2013 #7
You just don't understand the Republican notion of minority outreach. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #18
"Minority" to Republicans means the ultra-rich 1% minority. NYC Liberal Mar 2013 #32
I think tht's what they call the "Super-minority." Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #33
Conservatives woo segregationist, neo-Confederate, and pro-slavery blacks! struggle4progress Mar 2013 #8
LOL... But crying on the inside. Not for them, though. freshwest Mar 2013 #27
-- and I bet those blacks weren't even grateful for the free handouts. jerseyjack Mar 2013 #9
When you consider that at one point, IrishAyes Mar 2013 #38
At least most of the dumbasses that paid to be there, expressed astonishment at the statement.. jerseyjack Mar 2013 #10
They all probably feel the same way... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #12
I wonder what will be the next issue we will have to RE-fight Tx4obama Mar 2013 #11
And workers rights and the right to a survivable environment… Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #20
Wow. What an ignorant asshole. MrSlayer Mar 2013 #13
The Wealthy Elites dtom67 Mar 2013 #14
AND Conservatives wonder why they get called Racist so much??? agentS Mar 2013 #17
I wonder if anyone from CPAC or RNC etc will publicly denounce this idiot steve2470 Mar 2013 #19
The reactions I've heard are claiming he's a liberal spy or something similarly inane. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #22
inane is right nt steve2470 Mar 2013 #23
Minority Outreach... Hayabusa Mar 2013 #21
So does jail! Coyotl Mar 2013 #24
Memo to minorities Andy Stanton Mar 2013 #25
Keep digging, keep digging, right wingers... alp227 Mar 2013 #28
In the words of Dave Chappell, King_Klonopin Mar 2013 #29
I feel a bit bad for the conservatives who aren't rascist bigworld Mar 2013 #30
There aren't any angrychair Mar 2013 #31
Sadly, I don't see a lot of decent conservatives waking up JUST yet..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #54
What an idiot! cynzke Mar 2013 #34
And jobs! Adsos Letter Mar 2013 #35
It gives you an John2 Mar 2013 #36
Were Lincoln alive today... IrishAyes Mar 2013 #40
If they want to bring back slavery wouldn't it be appropriate LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #37
The South IrishAyes Mar 2013 #39
Considering everything about defending helpless southern belles LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #41
Well, IrishAyes Mar 2013 #42
Text of my email to Carl Smith IrishAyes Mar 2013 #43
Scott Terry is just another White Supremacist. See this article: sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #44
Front page of that blog also includes homophobia, woman-hate, antisemitism.... Ash_F Mar 2013 #45
The problem is with John2 Mar 2013 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #47
What's a little segregation among friends? yellowcanine Mar 2013 #48
Of course this idiot CRK7376 Mar 2013 #49
not only food and shelter, but a free one way trip to this country and no immigration hassles. olddad56 Mar 2013 #51
Yeah, Frederick Douglas was sooo ungrateful for the privilege of being a slave ck4829 Mar 2013 #52
It's 2013 and this shit doesn't end. K&R. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #53
So let's make you a slave, you fucker Zoeisright Mar 2013 #56
Excellent idea. 47of74 Mar 2013 #59
Klan 2013 TomClash Mar 2013 #57
I guess Scotty has a Terrycloth robe & hood PolitFreak Mar 2013 #60

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
1. hue
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:17 PM
Mar 2013

hue

Yeah - the South africans did it so great when they had the idea about remaining separate but equal at the books...


Diclotican

LoisB

(7,203 posts)
3. When are Black people going to learn that the Republican party of today is
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:22 PM
Mar 2013

not the one that existed during Douglass' time? Frederick Douglass would no more be a member of the Republican party today than I would.

PS: I'm Black

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
46. There are always going to be a few misled fools who vote for them,
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:08 PM
Mar 2013

no matter what. If them saying that slavery was good for us doesn't do the trick and piss off the 5-6% who do vote for the GOP, nothing will.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
4. unbelievable -
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:24 PM
Mar 2013

just put that right next to the there is nothing that has to change in the republican party, the message is just right column - these people don't even take the time to think how stupid they are.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
5. OMG! Also from the article at the link...
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:25 PM
Mar 2013
-snip-

ThinkProgress spoke with Terry, who sported a Rick Santorum sticker and attended CPAC with a friend who wore a Confederate Flag-emblazoned t-shirt, about his views after the panel. Terry maintained that white people have been “systematically disenfranchised” by federal legislation.

When asked by ThinkProgress if he’d accept a society where African-Americans were permanently subservient to whites, he said “I’d be fine with that.” He also claimed that African-Americans “should be allowed to vote in Africa,” and that “all the Tea Parties” were concerned with the same racial problems that he was.

At one point, a woman challenged him on the Republican Party’s roots, to which Terry responded, “I didn’t know the legacy of the Republican Party included women correcting men in public.”

-snip-



That guy is a total ASSHOLE.

It was good though to see many of the young folks in the audience with 'shocked' expressions on their faces in the video.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
26. Yow! Only 30 years old, many more years to spread that stuff. This needs to go viral. They're nuts.
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 04:57 AM
Mar 2013
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
7. It takes a special kind of ...
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:29 PM
Mar 2013

white person to go to a "Minority Outreach" break-out session and argue that white folks are being disenfranchised.

Thank you young white guy.

And Mr. Smith ... I hope you were paying attention! You can pet a snake all day long, wishing, pretending, hoping that you are petting a pussycat; but guess what? That snake is a snake!

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
18. You just don't understand the Republican notion of minority outreach.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 09:52 PM
Mar 2013

The minority to whom they are reaching out is white male dickhead Republicans.

Fortunately, it does seem to be a dwindling minority.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
33. I think tht's what they call the "Super-minority."
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 12:13 PM
Mar 2013

A "Super-minority" is sort of like a "super-majority" except it outranks it.

As in, you can have 60% of the electorate in favor of anything, but if the Super-Minority doesn't want it, you don't get it.

The ordinary dickhead white male Republican minority is just what they keep around for cover.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
8. Conservatives woo segregationist, neo-Confederate, and pro-slavery blacks!
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:29 PM
Mar 2013

Bold plan disproves claims conservatives have no new ideas!

 

jerseyjack

(1,361 posts)
9. -- and I bet those blacks weren't even grateful for the free handouts.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:29 PM
Mar 2013

(Do I really need the snark icon?)

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
38. When you consider that at one point,
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 10:17 PM
Mar 2013

Frederick Douglass beat the crap out of a slaveowner who then left him alone, I'm horrified that any group of Republicans would dare usurp his good name for their organization. Frederick Douglass Republicans? Hellfire and damnation, even if Douglass did forgive his former master. That still doesn't excuse anything.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
12. They all probably feel the same way...
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:38 PM
Mar 2013

they are just shocked that someone said it out loud in public. They are all asshats.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
11. I wonder what will be the next issue we will have to RE-fight
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:34 PM
Mar 2013

All of a sudden we are having to fight for women's reproductive rights, for voting rights, against segregation, etc all over again.

Feels like we've been transported back in time.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
13. Wow. What an ignorant asshole.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:39 PM
Mar 2013

The reaction of the girl in the front row says it all. Open mouthed disbelief, not at how appallingly ignorant the comment was but an "I can't believe you just said what we're all thinking" look.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
19. I wonder if anyone from CPAC or RNC etc will publicly denounce this idiot
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 09:54 PM
Mar 2013

My guess is no. If asked, they will cop out and say hey freedom of speech yada yada.

Andy Stanton

(264 posts)
25. Memo to minorities
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 11:57 PM
Mar 2013

The Republican party just doesn't like you.
If you're black, latino, asian, a woman, gay, the party will never accept you. They might put up a false front once in a while but they will NEVER fully accept you.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
29. In the words of Dave Chappell,
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 07:00 AM
Mar 2013

The racism is magnifique!

Hey Scott KKK Dumdass Terry III,

Did you ever stop to ponder that they never needed
"food and shelter" when they were living in Africa --
before they were given the favor of being kidnapped,
brought to a foreign land across a vast ocean exspanse,
and sold like chattel into slavery ??

How far can a human being stick his head up his ass?

bigworld

(1,807 posts)
30. I feel a bit bad for the conservatives who aren't rascist
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 07:32 AM
Mar 2013

Having to put up with all the idiots like this on their side.

angrychair

(8,698 posts)
31. There aren't any
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:16 AM
Mar 2013

I work with and associate with a lot of gOP and trust me, given enough rope and level of comfort around you they are all the same. They can't help themselves. If you share the belief system of the the gOP you are defining yourself as a racist and a misogynist.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
54. Sadly, I don't see a lot of decent conservatives waking up JUST yet.....
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 08:46 PM
Mar 2013

Maybe soon, but not now.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
34. What an idiot!
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 12:50 PM
Mar 2013

Gee, just why did slave owners feed and shelter their slaves....doing them a favor? NO! Slaves were a commodity, bought and paid for and needed to work, therefore, feeding, clothing and shelter were required maintenance.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
36. It gives you an
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 01:44 PM
Mar 2013

indication about how ignorant this 30 year old white male from North Carolina is about American History and even the genesis of the Republican Party. Do they still teach facts in History courses? How many Americans today know that the Republican Party's founder was not Abraham Lincoln or their first Presidential candidate?

The first Presidential candidate for the Republican Party was John C. Fremont in 1854. The first platform of the Republican Party was based on anti-slavery. They were for free soil and against the K Kansas/Nebraska Act which included slavery. They were a coalition of former Whigs, free soilers and abolitionists mainly in the North and upper Midwest. They were supporters of the anti-slavery movement which held convention that included such free Black speakers as David Walker and Douglass.It also included white abolitionists such as Lloyd Garrison,Sumner and Birney. Radical Abolitionists dominated the U.S. Congress after the Civil War. They approved of Tariffs and funding for education to help the poor, specifically freed slaves.

This young Southerner wants to rewrite the results of the Civil War. They have been trying to do so ever since Reconstruction ended with their Jim Crow Laws. It took force to make them capitulate the first and second time through the Civil War and Civil Rights Enactment. If I was in that audience, my response to him is he wants to turn back the clock. He has selective memory or amnesia about entire periods of American History. The current Constitution is not the original Constitution. It has been amended and on certain occasions through force. He cannot turn back that clock or it would cause serious and deadly consequences. I doubt he would get in this U.S. Army veteran's face and claim slavery was good for me. And to further illustrate the point, slavery meant restricted opportunities, such as movement, support your family and even the right to have a family and marry whom you please. As a free American citizen, those restriction are alien to me, especially for someone that has never known it. I'll go whereever I please and defend my right to do so. I hope someone like him can understand that if he tries to get in my way also.

LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
37. If they want to bring back slavery wouldn't it be appropriate
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 02:08 PM
Mar 2013

for there to be white slaves too? It would only be right. They probably also think that if they are a slave owner that they can do anything they want with their slaves including killing them.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
39. The South
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 10:29 PM
Mar 2013

... WANTED to be able to expand slavery to whites AND had eyes on Mexico and further south. I've studied the matter all my life and have read more than one historical document showing this. Today's neo-confederates are so damned ignorant I don't think they have any idea of what it was really like - they just want to go a-jousting on their noble steeds in defense of helpless southern belles, and crush underneath them all who stand in their way. For the sake of honor and glory, yes.

These documents remind me of one found in British records of the last century where they bragged, "At last we shall be free of the scourge of the Irish in Ireland!" Makes me SICK.

LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
41. Considering everything about defending helpless southern belles
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 09:41 AM
Mar 2013

they probably would expect an award for helping them that required entry.

Here is an interesting point. The Republicans harp about the need to maintain marriages and that marriage is the foundation of society. Yet, the slave owners did much in the way of destroying families amongst the slaves.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
42. Well,
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:30 PM
Mar 2013

... they didn't marry their livestock, and that's all the slaves meant to them. As a matter of fact, once the law declared that anyone with a drop of African blood in their veins could be enslaved, some owners simply turned their places into literal stud farms. Since lighter colored offspring brought higher prices, being considered more civilized and tractable, ol' Massa sowed the seed himself. This proved a lot more profitable and easier than dealing with adult male slaves who could never really be trusted not to morph into Nate Turner one day. For no reason at all, none, the ungrateful wretches!

So the core attitudes haven't changed one bit, have they? Some may think that the overlords of today's poor whites respect them at least a little because of the shared skin color, but that's only part of the big fat lie swallowed by the masses because they can't bear the truth - they're despised and seen as expendable just the same as the rest of the great unwashed, whatever hue they display.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
43. Text of my email to Carl Smith
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 06:23 PM
Mar 2013

"Shock and horror ..that anyone would drag Frederick Douglass' fine name through the mud by attaching it to anything having to do with the modern GOP. It positively makes me sick, and I can hear that great man turning in his grave at the thought. Don't you know the two major parties have completely switched positions since the days of Lincoln? Lincoln would be a Yellow Dog Democrat today! And your 'Douglass v. Obama' bit is nothing but a dangerous pack of lies. Shame, shame on you and your followers! And how could you have any friendship with a cracker who wishes you were still in chains?"


Please note that barely scratched the surface of my outrage.

sinkingfeeling

(51,448 posts)
44. Scott Terry is just another White Supremacist. See this article:
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 10:09 AM
Mar 2013

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/41742_About_Scott_Terry_-_CPAC_Slavery_Defender_and_Disenfranchised_Whites_Illustrated

Scott Terry is owner of the website Shotgun Barrel Straight | Truth, Justice and Southern Fire. Here are some screen shots of his website

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
45. Front page of that blog also includes homophobia, woman-hate, antisemitism....
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 11:34 AM
Mar 2013

Islamophobia ect. you name it, it's there.

Just for kicks, I word-searched 'Satan'... 149 hits.

This guy is real pearl. It's like he is the walking embodiment of the Republican party today.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
55. The problem is with
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:54 AM
Mar 2013

this Black man K. Carl Smith trying to confuse minorities and whites into thinking the current Republican Party is the same Party as Fredric Douglass and President Lincoln was associated with before hostilities during the Civil War. He has no concept of the time line in American History when groups shifted.

I've said this over and over again. Lincoln's and Douglass's Party was primarily based in the North and Upper Midwest of the country. It was basically non existant in the South. Most white people switched allegiance with the Democratic Party during the Civil Rights Act of 1965 because they thought the Party had abandoned them. Does Smith have the intellectual capacity to comprehend that or is he just trying to confuse people into thinking the current Republican Party cares about equal rights for minorities? Thankfully many minorities don't buy into the confusion, Blacks like Smith is trying portray.

Does Smith even believe there was such a thing as the Southern Strategy by the Republican establishment and President Johnson's remarks about losing the South for a Generation? He is the one in denial or either confused. Most Southern Democrats he referred to are now Republicans. The Republican Party is now mainly a Southern Party. It is the Republican Party by name only but the actual members don't have the same ideas as Douglass or Lincoln. It was Lincoln's Party that said the South had no right to secede. It was Lincoln's Army that was called the Federal Army. It was Lincoln's Army that sent Federal Troops to occupy the defeated Confederacy. It was Lincoln's Party that bought about the end of slavery through force. It was Lincoln's Party that forced the 13th,14th and 15th amendments to force Southern States to recognize the rights of Blacks. It was Lincoln's Party that allowed free Blacks to join the Army in defeating the South. It was done by the Emancipation Declaration as a War measure. It was General Sherman that said the South could no longer get their slaves back. The issue was buried and dead forever. Lincoln's party was never a Party of the South.

They empowered the Federal Government which included the right to raise taxes for an Army and started universal education because of the slaves. Not only that, they sent money to rebuild a war torn South because the South's industries was virtually in ruins, especially with what Sherman did and Sheridan did in the Shenandoah Valley. The bottom line to this white guy from North Carolina, slavery is dead in this country forever and there is nobody in the African American population today was born a slave. They are just as equal as you are. It might not bother some, but his remarks was offensive to me and something I'm willing to die for. if he thought slavery was so good for my ancestors, then why was his ancestors afraid of rebellions and why did so many of them try to escape North? And the Radical Abolitionists of the Republican Party in the North and upper Midwest would be considered the extreme Left in the South today. Their platform was for helping the poor, working people and anti-slavery. The Confederacy was for States' Rights and property. And even though many poor Southerners could not or did not even own slaves, the South was mainly governed by Rich Plantation owners. And many didn't want to loan their slaves to the Confederate Government for the War effort. Many of them could also get exempted from duty because of the number of slaves they owned. Now think about the similarities today between the current Republican Party of the South and the old Confederacy. Lincoln's Party was hijacked by Southern Politicians like Strom Thurmond. And there is one other thing this young white male should know, which would probably break his heart. Before the South's beloved General Lee died, he expressed that he believed Slavery was evil and if losing the War bought an end to it, he was glad that he loss regardless of the terrible consequences.

Response to hue (Original post)

CRK7376

(2,199 posts)
49. Of course this idiot
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 04:10 PM
Mar 2013

is from my state. My luck, he probably lives two or three roads over from us. Not all North Carolinians are this stupid or racist, but we sure have our fair share of them.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
51. not only food and shelter, but a free one way trip to this country and no immigration hassles.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 04:57 PM
Mar 2013

wow, can the republicans ever be insensitive enough to satisfy themselves?

ck4829

(35,069 posts)
52. Yeah, Frederick Douglas was sooo ungrateful for the privilege of being a slave
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 05:19 PM
Mar 2013

I want to say that there is something wrong with these people, but I don't want to offend everything else that is wrong.

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
53. It's 2013 and this shit doesn't end. K&R.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 08:12 PM
Mar 2013

Thank you, hue. I had no idea until I read this post.

2013, and this shit still goes on.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
56. So let's make you a slave, you fucker
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:09 AM
Mar 2013

and see how you like it. That means, of course, you will routinely be beaten, be forced to work without any type of safety, your family will be sold off and separated, and you will never, ever be free again.

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