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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 08:02 AM Feb 2012

'Frozen fury': Thousands brave icy chill to protest in Moscow

Updated at 5:05 a.m. ET: Tens of thousands of people are now in downtown Moscow, The Associated Press reports, despite temperatures of minus 4 Fahrenheit. Banners and placards read "Russia Without Putin!" and "For Free Elections."

The AP says the rally appears to be bigger than one in December that organizers claimed attracted 120,000 people, which was the biggest demonstration in Russia since the protests 20 years ago that helped bring about the collapse of the Soviet Union.

"So many of us have come that they can't arrest all of us," protester Alexander Zelensky, 56, tells the news service.

BBC News said people were taking part in the "For Honest Elections" rally despite expected temperatures as low as minus 2 degrees Fahrenheit.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46262202/ns/world_news-europe/

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'Frozen fury': Thousands brave icy chill to protest in Moscow (Original Post) IDemo Feb 2012 OP
Stay warm! Love from Wisconsin. Scuba Feb 2012 #1
Impressive! nt SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #2
Solidarity my friends. nt TBF Feb 2012 #3
How about xtraxritical Feb 2012 #4
Awesome! The times they are a'changin'! behold a pale horse Feb 2012 #5
What a great action! lunatica Feb 2012 #6
"We are not protesting. We are firing you!" Kaleko Feb 2012 #7
EPIC WIN!!! Odin2005 Feb 2012 #8
And I thought I was being brave...marching in 25 deg.F weather here in KC LongTomH Feb 2012 #9
Fair elections seems to be lacking everywhere... midnight Feb 2012 #10
I love these news report, mention the protest BUT not who would have won if the election was fair happyslug Feb 2012 #11
 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
4. How about
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 01:20 PM
Feb 2012

"Tens of thousands of people are now in downtown" Washington D,C. protesting a bribe taking Congress and a bribe taking Supreme Court.

Kaleko

(4,986 posts)
7. "We are not protesting. We are firing you!"
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 02:35 PM
Feb 2012

The global awakening continues...

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Protestors demonstrate in St.Petersburg Saturday. Tens of thousands of Russians defied bitter cold in St. Petersburg, Moscow and other Russian cities to demand fair elections. The protests come a month before the March 4 presidential election that Prime Minister Vladimir Putin is expected to win. The placard reads, "We are not the opposition, we are your employers. We are not protesting, we are firing you."

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
9. And I thought I was being brave...marching in 25 deg.F weather here in KC
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 10:57 PM
Feb 2012

...for the Occupy the Courts protest Jan 20.

Solidarity forever, everywhere!

midnight

(26,624 posts)
10. Fair elections seems to be lacking everywhere...
Sat Feb 4, 2012, 11:36 PM
Feb 2012

Without fair elections the 99 percent live with an unfair playing field...

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
11. I love these news report, mention the protest BUT not who would have won if the election was fair
Sun Feb 5, 2012, 02:47 AM
Feb 2012

i.e the Communists. I remember reading about Russia in the 1990s, every one was reporting how many people were leaving the Communist party, then nothing from about 2000 onward. Why? Simple, since the late 1990s the Communist party membership had GROWN, especially among the young. That unpleasant fact was just ignored, just like the fact in the last election, the general opinion was that the Communists would have won the Majority of the delegates.

Now, in many ways the Communist is the CONSERVATIVE party of Russia, wanting to keep things as there are, including the remains of the safety net that survives from Soviet times. On the other hand the Communist of Today have no intention of implementing the former Soviet Union, they knew it failed, but where it succeeded the Communists want to keep and in some ways re-implement. The big difference is the Communists of Today do NOT want to re-build the Military nor the police state of the Soviet Union. Those two groups, have long left the Communist party and at first backed Yeltsin and today back Putin, thus the Communists have nothing to do with them.

Please note, the Communists were the center of the opposition to Yeltsin in the 1990s and were the center of the revolt against Yeltsin when they took over the Russian Parliament (the Russian White house). The leadership that did that revolt subsequently lost control over the Communist party, giving in to a new Generation of leaders that have been growing the Communist party ever since. This paragraph is just a comment on the Communist party of Russia, it is NOT the Communist party that ruled the Soviet Union, and neither is it the Communist party of the 1990s. It still wants to help the working class and oppose the new upper middle class and rich that support Putin, but looks to winning elections rather then taking over in a Communist revolt.

Just a comment that everyone is the West hates how Putin's party won the election, it is clearly done by fraud, but the same reporters dare NOT state who should have won, for the owners of their newspapers, TV stations and Networks and other media outlets do NOT want to hear it. They always bring up some of the non-communist opposition to Putin, like they have a CHANCE of winning, but ignore the largest and best organized opposition, the Communist Party.

I compare it to how often the News Media reported whenever a Democrat defected to the GOP from the 1960s to the 1980s, it hit the evening news even if the defector was a state elected official. Since the 1980s you rarely hear of it unless it is something the Media has to report (i.e' when former Senator Specter defected to the Democratic Party in 2009) for the simple reason, it is rarer now, and the opposite is more common, GOP party members becoming Democrats. The Media owners do NOT want to hear it, so it is NOT reported unless it has to be (like in the case of Specter's defection).

Note on the Russian Army. While the Russian army still retains Commissars, which are Political leaders of Military units, these are now appointed by Putin. Furthermore remember the position was instituted by Kerensky during the time period of the provisional government of Russia, the Government between the overthrow of the Czar in the Spring of 1917 and the Subsequent Communist Revolt in late Fall of 1917. Thus Commissars are Political leaders of Military units tied in with whoever is in control of the Kremlin. This strongly ties in the Military to whoever is the leader of Russia, In Soviet days, the head of the Communist party, in post Soviet days, whoever is the President of Russia. Thus the Russian Army, a base of Communist control of Russia at the time of the Soviet Union, is loyal to Putin not the Communist party and has been ever since the attempted revolt against Yeltsin in the 1990s.

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