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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 12:51 PM Feb 2012

Alberto Contador stripped of 2010 Tour de France title

Alberto Contador stripped of 2010 Tour de France title

February 6, 2012 | 8:12 am

Alberto Contador has been found guilty of doping and was stripped of his 2010 Tour de France title Monday by sport's highest court.

The Court of Arbitration for Sport also suspended the Spanish cyclist for two years, rejecting his claim that he tested positive for the banned substance clenbuterol because he ate contaminated meat.
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He will be stripped of all results after Jan. 25, 2011, the day the Spanish federation proposed a one-year ban.

The sports court backdated its ban, leaving the three-time winner of the Tour de France ineligible to compete until Aug. 6. That means he will be able to compete in the Spanish Vuelta but will miss such events as the Giro d'Italia, the Tour de France and the London Olympics.
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Alberto Contador stripped of 2010 Tour de France title (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2012 OP
Another Tour doping scandal? How many does this make? MicaelS Feb 2012 #1
I'd be more surprised to find sharp_stick Feb 2012 #2
Farce? They ride 2100 miles in 3 weeks. You try that. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #3
They apparently can't do it without doping, can they? MicaelS Feb 2012 #4
Because the outcome of a 3 week, 2100-mile race often comes down to minutes or seconds. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #5
Ok, so if doping is so necessary, then let everyone dope.. MicaelS Feb 2012 #6
"this one sport"? boppers Feb 2012 #14
It's a farce sharp_stick Feb 2012 #9
Lance Armstrong never juiced tech_smythe Feb 2012 #12
No he didn't Scairp Feb 2012 #16
Yes, Lance juiced wtmusic Feb 2012 #17
No, I don't believe them obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #18
And why do you think that is? wtmusic Feb 2012 #19
Well Scairp Feb 2012 #13
The charges are politically motivated and are bullshit. wtmusic Feb 2012 #11
Andy Schleck of Luxembourg stands to be elevated from second to first place in the 2010 Tour. elleng Feb 2012 #7
Good Scairp Feb 2012 #15
Am really glad I was never good enough at one of these sports to be tempted stevenleser Feb 2012 #8
The concentration in Contador's blood was 50 trillionths of a gram/milliliter. wtmusic Feb 2012 #10

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
1. Another Tour doping scandal? How many does this make?
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 01:08 PM
Feb 2012

Jeez, I wish they would just cancel the fucking thing permanently, or let the riders use EPO, or WTF-ever.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
2. I'd be more surprised to find
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 01:28 PM
Feb 2012

someone on that tour in the last 20 years that wasn't doping in some way. It's a total farce as far as a competition goes.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
3. Farce? They ride 2100 miles in 3 weeks. You try that.
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 02:03 PM
Feb 2012

Any other athlete in the world, any sport, would quit or die trying to meet that pace.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
5. Because the outcome of a 3 week, 2100-mile race often comes down to minutes or seconds.
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 02:24 PM
Feb 2012

It's endurance, plain and simple.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
6. Ok, so if doping is so necessary, then let everyone dope..
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 02:33 PM
Feb 2012

Is that your solution? I would have no problem with it, because frankly I'm tired of reading about accusations and counter accusations of doping in the Tour.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
9. It's a farce
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:11 PM
Feb 2012

because it's completely doped up, shit I' think they've pretty much stopped even pretending they have any relation to a clean sport. I'm not saying it's not a hard ride, I'm saying they're a bunch of cheating assholes.

If they want to do it clean and not give a shit about the slower times good on them but they've proven themselves completely and totally unable to police themselves with any proficiency so none of their results can even be remotely considered valid.

on edit: or just let them all dope as much as they want and lets see what happens. That would be kind of fun after a few years.

 

tech_smythe

(190 posts)
12. Lance Armstrong never juiced
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 05:21 PM
Feb 2012

and won 7 times, most of that with only 1 nut after beating cancer!!!!!!
They went after him hard, every year, and they were NEVER able to prove anything.

But yes I agree, this is utter bullshit.

but thats the tour for you.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
16. No he didn't
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 06:33 PM
Feb 2012

If he had they would have caught him for sure. It just pissed off the French that this guy should have been dead and instead he beat advanced cancer and went on to win 7 tours. They just can't believe he could do that without help, but clearly he did. He is one of my heros and I am so glad this bullshit investigation has been shitcanned at last. All they had for evidence against him were a bunch of liars anyway so how they hoped to build a case on the word of someone like Floyd Landis and others is a mystery to me.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
17. Yes, Lance juiced
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 07:28 PM
Feb 2012

or you believe not only Landis but Tyler Hamilton and George Hincapie are liars too. And perhaps you've never heard Betsy Andreu's testimony:

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/01/sports/la-sp-lance-armstrong-20100902

Just because they didn't get him doesn't mean he didn't juice - they were going after fraud charges against a US Postal team that's been defunct for ten years. Lance brought cycling into the big money, and that buys a lot of justice.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
18. No, I don't believe them
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 09:50 PM
Feb 2012

NONE OF THEM said anything until after they had been caught. Lance was also the most tested athlete probably ever. There is no way he could have gotten away with juicing. Zero proof, just accusations.

I do believe he may have blood-packed.

on edit: George has stated he never said that.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
19. And why do you think that is?
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 12:28 AM
Feb 2012

They were all juicing too, and they knew that to squeal on Lance was to put this great thing they all had going at risk. Floyd squealed when he had nothing more to lose.

There's a very simple way he could get away with it: he brought more money to the sport than it's ever seen before. The sport itself had a great thing going:

"The September meeting with investigators came after Saugy had earlier approached WADA director general David Howman in response to accusations by Floyd Landis that the UCI had engaged in a cover-up of Armstrong’s positive test result. Those same allegations were repeated by Hamilton on Sunday.

In the CBS interview, Hamilton said that he was aware of a positive test involving Armstrong, but that “people took care of it.”

'I don’t know all the exact details,' Hamilton said, 'but I know that Lance’s people and the people from the other side from ─ I believe from the governing body of the sport figured out ─ figured out a way for it to go away.'"

Tyler Hamilton, Floyd Landis, Hincapie didn't give a shit about Lance except he was getting rich playing the saint while they were taking bullets. And they got tired of it. I know lots of people who follow the sport of cycling intensively - I'm one - and some who are sick of hearing about Lance. Others love to debate the subject. But not one believes he's innocent of doping.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
13. Well
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 06:04 PM
Feb 2012

They dropped the probe against Lance finally. There was no there there for a criminal case. That man has been tested more than any human on the face of the earth and not once did he ever test positive for anything at all. I would say Lance is the guy who hasn't doped in the last 20 years in some way. I don't think it's a farce; he did win 7 in a row and I don't think any drug in the world would allow him to do that. I believe he is just too good. I'm so glad this is finally over for him and he can get on with his life and work.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
8. Am really glad I was never good enough at one of these sports to be tempted
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:05 PM
Feb 2012

I dont know which way I would have gone.

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
10. The concentration in Contador's blood was 50 trillionths of a gram/milliliter.
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:21 PM
Feb 2012

No performance benefit, and completely consistent with his claim of eating tainted meat. Doping allegations have become the equivalent of charges of pedophilia.

Political bullshit.

http://martinbudden.wordpress.com/2010/10/01/contador-%E2%80%93-cheat-or-bad-meat/

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