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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Wed May 22, 2013, 08:56 PM May 2013

Ireland says will not be U.S. "whipping boy" on tax

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - Ireland's finance minister said the country would not be the "whipping boy" for what he called a flawed U.S. Senate report that said Irish loopholes helped technology giant Apple shrink its tax bill.

Ireland has been forced to defend its corporate tax rate after the Senate said on Monday that Apple paid little or no tax on tens of billions of dollars in profits channelled through Irish subsidiaries and that it had negotiated a special corporate tax rate of less than 2 percent.

While a cabinet colleague acknowledged on Wednesday that there needed to be a clampdown on multinationals shifting profits around the world to avoid tax, Michael Noonan went on the attack, telling senators they had got their sums wrong.

In an angry exchange at a parliamentary committee meeting, the finance minister accused a fellow legislator of putting the jobs of people in the country at risk by repeating the Senate committee's claims.

Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/05/22/uk-ireland-tax-idUKBRE94L0G620130522

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Ireland says will not be U.S. "whipping boy" on tax (Original Post) dipsydoodle May 2013 OP
The term is redheaded stepchild. nt Xipe Totec May 2013 #1
What jobs? cuncator May 2013 #2
Welcome to DU. n/t area51 May 2013 #6
No - not just lawyers dipsydoodle May 2013 #7
4000 Stop the presses RunInCircles May 2013 #8
In a 12 month period that's significant in the case of the Republic of Ireland. dipsydoodle May 2013 #9
Unfortunately for my Irish cousins JackInGreen May 2013 #12
Yeah, its BS Iliyah May 2013 #3
And what is Ireland then, profiting from taxes on earned profits overseas? Amonester May 2013 #4
The Race To The Bottom DallasNE May 2013 #5
So we need a collective global watch. toby jo May 2013 #10
The specific issue here is the Republic of Ireland dipsydoodle May 2013 #11

cuncator

(28 posts)
2. What jobs?
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:17 PM
May 2013

"Putting the jobs of people in the country at risk" is a load of rubbish almost as large as trickle down economics. The only jobs it will affect are the lawyers putting together the shell corporations.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. No - not just lawyers
Thu May 23, 2013, 04:56 AM
May 2013

Apple, Google, Facebook, HP, IBM, LinkedIn, PayPal and Cisco Systems all announced new hiring sprees in 2012, while DropBox, Aspen, Clearstream and Twitter invested in the country for the first time. Over 4,000 jobs were created in the information and communications technology sector last year, according to IDA Ireland.

http://news.efinancialcareers.com/135411/as-finance-falters-in-ireland-google-and-apple-help-create-4000-jobs/

That's just 2012. I'm not excusing the situation - I'm explaining it. The Irish government used the low rate to attract investment which would create jobs.

RunInCircles

(122 posts)
8. 4000 Stop the presses
Thu May 23, 2013, 07:51 AM
May 2013

Hiring sprees produced 4,000 whole jobs OMG!
Stop the presses this must make everything OK!
I can't imagine that you write this stuff without asking yourself wtf only 4000 who is the sucker?

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
9. In a 12 month period that's significant in the case of the Republic of Ireland.
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:00 AM
May 2013

whose total population is only 4.6 million. That's c. half the size of the population of London for comparison where it would be regarded as being equally significant.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
12. Unfortunately for my Irish cousins
Thu May 23, 2013, 12:03 PM
May 2013

Tough titty, they had enough problems with their golden circle, this is just one more chicken come home to roost where I hope the legislature and corporate interests pay, but more's the pity, the workers will be punished for the misdeeds of a few legislators and the greedy.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. Yeah, its BS
Wed May 22, 2013, 10:20 PM
May 2013

Last edited Wed May 22, 2013, 11:24 PM - Edit history (1)

if corporations paid their fair share of the taxes the country would be bouncing back quicker. But oh noes, GREED and selfishness.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
5. The Race To The Bottom
Thu May 23, 2013, 02:44 AM
May 2013

This article shows how ruthless international companies are. Either you grant them the tax avoidance they want or they shop around until they find someone willing to give you the free tax ride. And the money never leaves the Nevada bank it has been parked in the whole while. Does anyone really think that some of that money doesn't get tossed over the wall, making its way into domestic accounts and used to pay executive bonuses, etc. It's just that there is so much of it they can't do it fast enough and still escape discovery. I'll bet Apple even shopped around for banks willing to give them what they demanded and a Nevada bank won the prize.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
10. So we need a collective global watch.
Thu May 23, 2013, 10:50 AM
May 2013

Like the one we need on labor & the environment.

Money gets away from us faster than we can make it behave.

Jobs argument is bogus. Tax money would create jobs, demand, and shut down corporate gasbags.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
11. The specific issue here is the Republic of Ireland
Thu May 23, 2013, 10:59 AM
May 2013

No deal - no investment. So where in this instance would the extra tax money come from ?

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