Snowden affair clouds U.S. attempts to press China to curb cyber theft

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Source: reuters

Revelations by former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden will make it harder for the United States to confront China at talks this week over the alleged cyber theft of trade secrets worth hundreds of billions of dollars each year....

"China would rather have the waters muddy, because they can say 'You do it. We do it. What's the big deal?' and the cyber theft against companies will go on and on," he said by telephone from China, where he is senior counselor for APCO Worldwide, a U.S. business consultancy....

Many countries spy on each other, but U.S. officials say China is unique in the amount of state-sponsored IP theft it carries out as it tries to catch up with the United States in economic power and technological prowess....

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce hopes "to see a clear indication that China recognizes thefts of trade secrets, whether by cyber or other means, is stealing property and will bring the full force of its laws to curb this," said Jeremie Waterman, the group's senior director for Greater China....


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/08/us-usa-china-cyber-idUSBRE96713220130708

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1. Hero Snowden

Costing us BILLION$.

[Lonr]

7. Costing who billions?

eom

[SunSeeker]

8. China is costing one wind turbine firm alone $800 million.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/28/news/companies/china-wind-sinovel/index.html

Those are American green jobs stolen by Chinese state-sponsored industrial spying. The US does not do industrial theft like that.

[Romulus Quirinus]

11. Can you prove that?

I tend not to think so, either, but we can't be sure, considering that the companies empowered to manage our spy apparatus often have their hands in many fields that might benefit from, say, a line into the computers of other nations universities.

Some might have been tempted.

[SunSeeker]

12. I have not seen any country accuse the US of industrial espionage, unlike China.

Our government does not do that sort of thing. As far as US corporations behaving badly, of course they do. But even with US corporations, the kind of stuff they do is bribe locals to get into their market, or dump oil sludge in their rivers. I haven't heard of them stealing industrial secrets from foreign companies, and certainly not with the help of the US government. In China, the government helps the companies steal; many of the companies are state owned.

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9. Someday, I'll have to learn that trick

mentally blotting out undesirable info in articles.

[idwiyo]

2. Heh, what's good for the goose...

Sorry, I am not buying it that US does not engage in commercial espionage. Every single country does.
So, cry me a fucking river.

[Amonester]

3. Hundreds of billions each year ...

that *would* end up hidden in tax havens or in political deep pockets...

Surely not in fairly-shared taxes (as for just one recent evidence: apple corp.).

[BornLooser]

4. Pot.....meet Kettle

Guess they're just too above it all to stop and see.... they look like DUMBASSES. It's so in vogue these days, doncha know, being over-the-top Limbauciles. Want cheese w/ teh White Whine, suh?

[NorthCarolina]

5. We can spy, but you can't. We can torture, but you can't. Odd standings. nt

[Lonr]

6. Perhaps the NSA should have thought about that

before they proceeded to violate both domestic and international law. Edward Snowden is, in fact, a hero to those of us who care deeply about our constitutional rights and our freedom.

[madrchsod]

10. the usa does`t use IP theft?

why not?

[Alamuti Lotus]

13. What--the increasing lack of credibility hampers their ability to command others to act as ordered??

If the aforementioned is even truly a by-product of Mr. Snowden's unspeakable villainy (--it is hard to tell the genuineness of such these days, for so much is attributed to it by the desperate fanboys!--), then the latter is to be even further praised; these named pots and tea-kettles deserve each other, for both bear the hue and scent of coal and hypocrisy on this and many other matters.