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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 07:45 AM Jul 2013

Japan may restart reactors in a year; Fukushima situation worsens

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - Japan may restart several reactors shut down by the Fukushima nuclear crisis in about a year, a senior regulator said in an interview on Tuesday, a day after new safety rules went into effect designed to avoid a repeat of the disaster.

At the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant north of Tokyo, the site of the world's worst atomic disaster since Chernobyl in 1986, the situation took a turn for the worse as radiation levels in groundwater soared, suggesting highly toxic materials from the plant are now close to the Pacific Ocean.

But Japan is forging ahead with attempts to restart idled reactors in the face of a sceptical public, after Fukushima highlighted weak oversight of the industry.

That is meant to change with the new rules.

Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/09/uk-japan-nuclear-idUKBRE9680DQ20130709

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Japan may restart reactors in a year; Fukushima situation worsens (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jul 2013 OP
Pretty determined aren't they? Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #1
There was a mini anti-nuclear rally at my train station Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #2
is anyone running against Abe on that issue? wordpix Jul 2013 #7
The Communist Party of Japan is running against Abe Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #12
Once you start a reactor sulphurdunn Jul 2013 #3
What isn't too well known is that Japan had another nuclear accident Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #4
Not reported in Japan List left Jul 2013 #5
They aren't too happy blowing $50 billion per year on gas, coal and oil NickB79 Jul 2013 #6
Japan is a coastal nation, why not develop wind energy? wordpix Jul 2013 #8
They are trying to develop wind power, actually Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #13
It takes time to build such things in the numbers needed. NickB79 Jul 2013 #14
They are working on both solar and wind Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #16
The nuclear industry is solely culpable sulphurdunn Jul 2013 #11
Nuclear meltdowns aren't cheap, either daleo Jul 2013 #15
What rich cosmic humor! the_chinuk Jul 2013 #9
Yep They_Live Jul 2013 #10

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
2. There was a mini anti-nuclear rally at my train station
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 08:42 AM
Jul 2013

in Tokyo today. I guess that explains the timing.

By the way, there is an Upper House election coming up in Japan in less than 2 weeks. Maybe it will be a referendum on Prime Minister Abe's call to restart nuclear reactors in Japan.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
12. The Communist Party of Japan is running against Abe
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 03:13 PM
Jul 2013

Of course, they won't get many votes, but they have a lot of campaign signs around here. But there is also the Democratic Party of Japan, which currently has a slim plurality of Upper House seats. The DPJ is running on a platform of complete phaseout of nuclear power by the 2030s.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
3. Once you start a reactor
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:49 AM
Jul 2013

you can't shut it off. That is why they are so potentially deadly. New rules and increased oversight will not change that. Nukes are the poster children for Murphy's famous maxim: "If anything can go wrong it will" (eventually) and his corollary: "If there are two or more ways to do something, and one of those can result in catastrophe, then someone will do it."

What even Murphy didn't realize was that some people will keep doing it. Hence, Einstein's observation: Insanity, is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
4. What isn't too well known is that Japan had another nuclear accident
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:12 AM
Jul 2013

11 1/2 years before Fukushima. It happened on September 30, 1999 at Tokaimura, which is maybe 50-60 miles down the coast from Fukushima Dai-ichi. Known as the "Tokaimura JCO rinkai jiko", or "critical stage accident", it was Japan's first nuclear accident that resulted in fatalities. Three workers at the Tokaimura fuel processing complex were exposed to extremely high doses of radiation, and were transported by ambulance to hospital. An evacuation order was issued for everyone living within 350 meters of the complex (40 households), while people living within 500 meters were told to be on standby for possible evacuation, and residents within a 10km radius (310,000 people) were told to stay indoors. Three train lines in the area were temporarily shut down, and several roads in the area were closed off. Various measures were taken to avert a chain reaction. It took 20 hours before neutron rays were brought down to below the allowable limit. As a result of the accident, 2 of the 3 workers died, the other was seriously injured, and 667 other people were exposed to radiation. It was determined to be an INES Level 4 accident.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/東海村JCO臨界事故

List left

(595 posts)
5. Not reported in Japan
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 10:41 AM
Jul 2013

There is a news blackout in Japan concerning the situation at Fukushima and any alternative to the status quo.

By constitution Japan is not allowed to have an army. They just purchased a battleship and a stealth bomber.

CIA and U.S.military economic interests.

1/3 of the population in Japan do not vote. Youth and young adults number 1 cause of death is suicide.

NickB79

(19,243 posts)
6. They aren't too happy blowing $50 billion per year on gas, coal and oil
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/14/us-japan-fuel-costs-idUSBRE92D05E20130314

Japan faces higher fuel bill as nuclear shutdown enters third year


and

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/08/08/uk-japan-economy-current-idUKBRE87706Y20120808

Japan's nuclear shutdown results in record first-half trade deficit


Having to import so much fossil fuel, and ration electricity to major manufacturing areas, is blowing a huge fucking hole in the government budget.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
8. Japan is a coastal nation, why not develop wind energy?
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jul 2013

I've never visited but I would think that as on US coasts, there is plenty of wind and a constant breeze on Japan's coastlines. Japan is a technologically innovative nation, why not wind?

There ARE alternatives to oil, coal, gas.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
13. They are trying to develop wind power, actually
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 03:17 PM
Jul 2013
http://www.jwd.co.jp/english/

Some places like Tokyo are also providing monetary incentives to install solar panels and collectors.

NickB79

(19,243 posts)
14. It takes time to build such things in the numbers needed.
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jul 2013

From what I've read, they are currently developing a lot of renewables, including wind. However, it takes thousands, if not tens of thousands, of wind turbines to replace 40-50 GW of nuclear power (the capacity of their reactor fleet before Fukushima), and a lot of time to site, build and install such things. It will likely take them DECADES to fully transition off of nuclear.

It's really a clusterfuck situation no matter how you look at it, and will be for years to come.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
16. They are working on both solar and wind
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jul 2013

Geothermal may also be a factor.

But energy transitions take time, and they can't continue to import fossil fuels as they are doing for very long.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
11. The nuclear industry is solely culpable
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 02:38 PM
Jul 2013

for Japan's trade deficit. But why worry? Tokyo Electric Power's stock was up 40 points today. All is well!

the_chinuk

(332 posts)
9. What rich cosmic humor!
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jul 2013

Toxic materials are close to the Pacific Ocean!

Ha, ha, what infinite jest!

THEY'RE IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN, FOR CRYSAKES!

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