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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:35 PM Aug 2013

Religous Family Quits US Gets Lost at Sea

Source: ABC News

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/religious-family-leaves-us-lost-sea-19926919

A northern Arizona family that was lost at sea for weeks in an ill-fated attempt to leave the U.S. over what they consider government interference in religion will fly back home Sunday.

Hannah Gastonguay, 26, said Saturday that she and her husband "decided to take a leap of faith and see where God led us" when they took their two small children and her father-in-law and set sail from San Diego for the tiny island nation of Kiribati in May.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/religious-family-leaves-us-lost-sea-19926919



They allege "state controlled" churches in America. These people are beyond ignorant.
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Religous Family Quits US Gets Lost at Sea (Original Post) LiberalElite Aug 2013 OP
Kiribati? They were going to make the 5,000 mile trip with a child and an baby. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #1
I'm sure they'd say LiberalElite Aug 2013 #4
Kribati kardonb Aug 2013 #21
I could see jailing folks for being stupid Plucketeer Aug 2013 #106
I be they will be charged... this is unconscionable secondwind Aug 2013 #130
If by "state controlled" they mean HeiressofBickworth Aug 2013 #2
you're insulting ignorant. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #3
Maybe they will find Noah's Ark Heather MC Aug 2013 #13
An atheist wouldn't be so foolish perdita9 Aug 2013 #5
height of ignorance or arrogance? rurallib Aug 2013 #25
Yes. (nt) paleotn Aug 2013 #28
anyone who would do that is an idiot, aethiest or no roguevalley Aug 2013 #40
Consider Yourself TriEssent Aug 2013 #110
Yes I do perdita9 Aug 2013 #112
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW? Sky Masterson Aug 2013 #6
LOL ... their god took them in one fucken circle! RKP5637 Aug 2013 #30
and got them lost way out of the shipping lanes wordpix Aug 2013 #54
That's what they get for not paying attention to Exodus. Rozlee Aug 2013 #117
Just sit right back Berlin Expat Aug 2013 #7
Probably recovering addicts itsrobert Aug 2013 #8
well their god led them to...the promised land :-) nt msongs Aug 2013 #9
+1, n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #32
Please people, living in Arizona snort Aug 2013 #10
So they opted to go to the most vulnerable place in the world for climate change? csziggy Aug 2013 #11
I think that leap of poor judgment should have Children's Services interested in them, at a minimum! MADem Aug 2013 #29
Climate change is a hoax by the Devil! deutsey Aug 2013 #81
!1!!! csziggy Aug 2013 #118
They'll write a book and make a gazillion. Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #12
They are way too stupid to pull that off. However, Quantess Aug 2013 #75
In the words of Bugs Bunny . . . what a bunch of ultra maroons. nt broadcaster75201 Aug 2013 #14
Must have made the wrong turn at Albuquerue! longship Aug 2013 #64
Oooh! That was one of my faves. freshwest Aug 2013 #67
Horus only guides the boats of patriots. k&r nt livingwagenow Aug 2013 #15
Reckless, irresponsible, unfit parents drm604 Aug 2013 #16
+1 theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #24
No they don't Cronus Protagonist Aug 2013 #73
+2 sakabatou Aug 2013 #39
Glenn Beck and Joe Barton's freedom and liberty development, no doubt. freshwest Aug 2013 #68
Gastonguay said the family will now "come up with a new plan." Quantess Aug 2013 #76
I hope to hell those children will be alright. sakabatou Aug 2013 #132
Hannah Gastonguay said the family will now "go back to Arizona" and "come up with a new plan.". jtuck004 Aug 2013 #17
They didn't make it, so I guess God didn't want them to go. W T F Aug 2013 #18
God is sending them to Arizona now Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #20
That must mean he must be very very displeased with them Tom Ripley Aug 2013 #61
Among other differences, she said they had a problem with being "forced to pay these taxes Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #19
And of course, the homosexual plague was upon them theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #35
Actually, Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #58
How do you... Bay Boy Aug 2013 #103
God is flying them back Turbineguy Aug 2013 #22
No. It's your tax dollars flying them back. And the evil gubmint. Squinch Aug 2013 #77
It's the price of living in a civilized country. Turbineguy Aug 2013 #91
I agree. But I can't help but wonder what the next "project" Squinch Aug 2013 #92
I'm glad the children are safe. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #23
I think the DNA is very shallow at their end of the pool. Pity they werent simply lost. Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #101
makes me wonder what kind of schooling they had rurallib Aug 2013 #26
Probably home schooled by equally ignorant parents. Squinch Aug 2013 #78
Deadliest kvetch n/t Bossy Monkey Aug 2013 #27
Best post of this thread! MADem Aug 2013 #31
Thanks! nt Bossy Monkey Aug 2013 #83
Beautiful! Tom Ripley Aug 2013 #34
Thanks! nt Bossy Monkey Aug 2013 #84
. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2013 #46
Thanks three! nt Bossy Monkey Aug 2013 #85
Oh dear. Ash_F Aug 2013 #66
Thanks four! nt Bossy Monkey Aug 2013 #86
Damn you! Arugula Latte Aug 2013 #99
Hell, I was surprised, too! :) Bossy Monkey Aug 2013 #111
Only Someone Stupid 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #33
That's why they stuck in that Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #59
I Would Have Preferred That They tonekat Aug 2013 #36
Why would you wish that on the people of Kiribati? theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #95
I see a Darwin Award in their near future. nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2013 #37
Great moment for teaching TNNurse Aug 2013 #38
So, if they don't want to live in this country any more, why are they accepting the evil 1monster Aug 2013 #41
Because when the gov't is doing something for THEM Mariana Aug 2013 #89
So why exactly did they get rescued? SheilaT Aug 2013 #42
A Venezuelan ship sailed by and wondered WTF they were doing in the middle of nowhere struggle4progress Aug 2013 #53
Good question. pitbullgirl1965 Aug 2013 #127
With parents like that who needs enemies? Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #43
Baby Jesus took the form of a baby Dolphin. That kind of miracle? Safetykitten Aug 2013 #50
Did you see the face of the three year old in the photo? Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #51
Even the baby in the woman's arms looks miserable and tired of it already. Jamastiene Aug 2013 #93
omg, that is horrific and unjustifiable. The law should have had social services there, but I Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #113
Whuh? (nt) Nine Aug 2013 #129
This is what kills me about believers... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #97
Uh, who are these two? Odd spot comes up on Google: Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #44
They've already lost a daughter and they put two more at risk???? n/t SwissTony Aug 2013 #72
I know, it's so bizarre..not sure what to make it. Hopefully, child services will look into Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #90
They are very sad people. redwitch Aug 2013 #123
They sound mentally ill.Something isn't right with them. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #45
They pissed off Baby Jesus™! xfundy Aug 2013 #47
Kinda like that Christian dating service ad on TV. Find God's match for you...well if God Safetykitten Aug 2013 #48
These peoples' god needs a lot of technological help. And attention. And ego stroking. Squinch Aug 2013 #79
These parents should be charged with child endangerment. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #49
+1 davidpdx Aug 2013 #114
With all the seamanship they learned by living Arizona, how could they have gotten lost? struggle4progress Aug 2013 #52
Maybe next time they'll try driving. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2013 #62
As the bat flies, yeah. IRL, not so much. freshwest Aug 2013 #69
Hmmmmm! Is this the modern X-tian thing to do? rdharma Aug 2013 #55
Noooo!! Tien1985 Aug 2013 #56
Kooky for Kiribati lunasun Aug 2013 #57
I like that fact so that many government entities were involved in their rescue; I guess their Tom Ripley Aug 2013 #60
Kids! We're going to live on Christmas Island, where there are no gay marriages. tofuandbeer Aug 2013 #63
Sounds like their adventure cost US taxpayers a pretty penny. Ash_F Aug 2013 #65
What on earth made them think they'd be welcome in Kiribati? SwissTony Aug 2013 #70
Actually, I thought the RWR and RWNJ destination of choice was Cuba: freshwest Aug 2013 #71
"So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple." Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #74
I think a little good family therapy for those apostles could have prevented a lot of trouble. Squinch Aug 2013 #80
Definition and origin of the word Cretin also Cretinism Rain Mcloud Aug 2013 #82
They chose to go to a country that is slowly depopulating rpannier Aug 2013 #87
So lets see if I got this stright. Wishing to leave a godless............ wandy Aug 2013 #88
They once were lost... PD Turk Aug 2013 #94
I wonder if the American taxpayers mind paying for the flight home and for the assistance UpInArms Aug 2013 #96
Don't worry. It's all part of Gawd's plan. He's playing eleventybillion-dimensional chess. Arugula Latte Aug 2013 #98
They're a perfect illustration of Shit for Brains. nt valerief Aug 2013 #100
In a way, Gawd did provide...... radhika Aug 2013 #102
... timstephens13 Aug 2013 #104
LiberalElite Diclotican Aug 2013 #105
Haven't you heard of the Mooslim obamaray? Quantess Aug 2013 #108
Quantess Diclotican Aug 2013 #109
I wouldn't be surprised if Quantess Aug 2013 #116
Quantess Diclotican Aug 2013 #121
They put their kids in danger because they believe lies? Mass Aug 2013 #107
TJ says it best. ozone_man Aug 2013 #115
They speak a different language than you and I jmowreader Aug 2013 #119
What a bunch of stupid fundie whackos jasond54231 Aug 2013 #120
This had to happen PasadenaTrudy Aug 2013 #122
The people on the Venezuelan fishing vessel that rescued then must have been Snake Plissken Aug 2013 #124
In case you were wondering where Kiribati is...... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #125
They should be forced to pay back the cost of their rescue. pitbullgirl1965 Aug 2013 #126
OMG, this is scary!! i hope they lose their parental rights darkangel218 Aug 2013 #128
Sure their extremely reckless actions almost killed their entire family but, Snake Plissken Aug 2013 #131
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Kiribati? They were going to make the 5,000 mile trip with a child and an baby.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:40 PM
Aug 2013

They should be charged.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
2. If by "state controlled" they mean
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:41 PM
Aug 2013

they aren't allowed to beat their children or refuse them medical care, kill their neighbor for eating shellfish or wearing cloth of different fabrics, or refuse to pay taxes, then they are right. But otherwise, if they decide to worship the divinity of a cockroach, as long as they aren't breaking any laws, they can do as they wish.

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
5. An atheist wouldn't be so foolish
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:43 PM
Aug 2013

Trusting an invisible sky fairy to watch over you while you do something stupid, is the height of ignorance.

TriEssent

(2 posts)
110. Consider Yourself
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:30 PM
Aug 2013

And what do you believe? You Probably believe that the universe came from nothing, and that all of life started from a one celled animal in some primordial soup! Is that what you trust in?

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
117. That's what they get for not paying attention to Exodus.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:00 PM
Aug 2013

At least they weren't lost for forty years.

Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
7. Just sit right back
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:50 PM
Aug 2013

and you'll hear the tale
The tale of a fateful trip,
that started at this tropic port
aboard this tiny ship.

They're lucky they're still alive. Like the old saying goes, "God watches over drunks, fools and children".

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
11. So they opted to go to the most vulnerable place in the world for climate change?
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:02 PM
Aug 2013
In June 2008, Kiribati officials asked Australia and New Zealand to accept Kiribati citizens as permanent refugees. Kiribati is expected to be the first country to lose all its land territory to global climate change. In June 2008, the Kiribati president Anote Tong said that the country has reached "...the point of no return." He added, "To plan for the day when you no longer have a country is indeed painful but I think we have to do that."[19][20][21][22]

In early 2012, the government of Kiribati purchased the 2,200-hectare Natoavatu Estate on the second largest island of Fiji, Vanua Levu. At the time it was widely,[23][24] but incorrectly,[25] reported that the Government planned to evacuate the entire population of Kiribati to Fiji. However, in April 2013, President Tong began urging citizens to evacuate the islands and migrate elsewhere.[26]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribati

Great plan!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. I think that leap of poor judgment should have Children's Services interested in them, at a minimum!
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:54 PM
Aug 2013

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
12. They'll write a book and make a gazillion.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:04 PM
Aug 2013

Last edited Sat Aug 10, 2013, 11:15 PM - Edit history (1)

That'll be the new plan. Can't wait to hear what message God was giving them that ultimately had them back where they started in the United State-Controlled Churches of America.

At least they didn't send the kids adrift in a balloon.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
75. They are way too stupid to pull that off. However,
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:17 AM
Aug 2013

someone else might write their story for them, and make some bucks.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
67. Oooh! That was one of my faves.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 03:14 AM
Aug 2013


Along with his defeat of Marvin the Martian and Yosemite Sam... My hero.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
16. Reckless, irresponsible, unfit parents
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:18 PM
Aug 2013
She said they wanted to go to Kiribati because "we didn't want to go anywhere big." She said they understood the island to be "one of the least developed countries in the world."

This couple, with a baby and a 3 year old in tow, were deliberately trying to settle in "the least developed country in the world", and it's only through sheer luck that they and those children (who had no choice in the matter) didn't drown or die from exposure.

These two are not fit to be parents. They'd probably say that I'm trying to interfere with their precious religious beliefs when I say that, but too bad. They took a real and grave risk with the lives of those children because of their baseless feelings of persecution.

At the end of the article they're quoted as saying that they're going to return home and make a new plan. I hate to think what their new plan will be.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
76. Gastonguay said the family will now "come up with a new plan."
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:28 AM
Aug 2013

More upcoming child endangerment to follow, is what she is saying.

Some people really are too stupid to raise children. The poor kids will be lucky if they turn out to be normal adults.


 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
17. Hannah Gastonguay said the family will now "go back to Arizona" and "come up with a new plan.".
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:21 PM
Aug 2013

And they have now ordered 4 lawn chairs, 36 surplus weather balloons, some sandwiches and a BB gun. And a new bible, 'cause God took the last one back at sea, not wanting any evidence around that she had a damn thing to do with their first silly plan.
 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
20. God is sending them to Arizona now
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:30 PM
Aug 2013

while he tries to think of a new, better plan.

[center][/center]

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
19. Among other differences, she said they had a problem with being "forced to pay these taxes
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:24 PM
Aug 2013

that pay for abortions we don't agree with."
I have a problem paying taxes that pay to rescue idiot Americans that risk their children's lives.

Their flights home were arranged by U.S. Embassy officials. The State Department was not available for comment.

This family is getting billed for those flights, aren't they ?

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
35. And of course, the homosexual plague was upon them
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 09:21 PM
Aug 2013

excerpt from article...

Hannah Gastonguay said her family was fed up with government control in the U.S. As Christians they don't believe in "abortion, homosexuality, in the state-controlled church," she said.

I'll bet we could raise enough money to send their asses elsewhere that's more to their liking. Maybe they could ask Putin for asylum.

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
58. Actually,
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:39 AM
Aug 2013

they might feel right at home in Russia, where they are actively trying to increase their population, stamp out homosexuals (or at least keep them hidden), and allow the Russian Orthodox Church to flourish once more - independent of the State, of course.

Can they sail there from Arizona ?

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
103. How do you...
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 02:39 PM
Aug 2013

...not believe in abortion or homosexuality? They are real things. Maybe they don't approve of them.

I might also have said: "If you don't approve of abortion don't have one. If you don't approve of homosexuality don't do that".

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
92. I agree. But I can't help but wonder what the next "project"
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 11:26 AM
Aug 2013

they're talking about will cost us.

The next project where they try and get away from all that they think the government is costing them.

What a bunch of maroons. To quote a wise rabbit.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
23. I'm glad the children are safe.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:33 PM
Aug 2013

I know many people gain some benefits from literal, religious journeys, but I don't think children should be taken on them if there is greater than normal danger. God will not protect them, or anyone for that matter, so parents need to be the protectors. The first rule of protecting someone is to not put them in needless danger.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
101. I think the DNA is very shallow at their end of the pool. Pity they werent simply lost.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 01:37 PM
Aug 2013

You can't cure stupid. A waste of taxpayer dollars on people that think Govt and Liberals are evil anyhow.

 

1ProudAtheist

(346 posts)
33. Only Someone Stupid
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 09:06 PM
Aug 2013

Enough to actually believe in sky spooks and trolls carrying pitchforks would even consider doing something this ignorant. Religion kills.

 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
59. That's why they stuck in that
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:46 AM
Aug 2013

"be fruitful and multiply" clause.

Because if you have a big litter, a few of them might live to reproduce:

tonekat

(1,814 posts)
36. I Would Have Preferred That They
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 09:29 PM
Aug 2013

had been dropped off in Kiribati. We have more than enough fanatics screwing things up for the rest of us.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
95. Why would you wish that on the people of Kiribati?
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:11 PM
Aug 2013

Those poor folks have enough on their plate as it is. No doubt, that family of kooks are also climate change deniers. If they ended up in Kiribati they'd have to build an ark.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
38. Great moment for teaching
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:14 PM
Aug 2013

After evaluation by Children's Services, someone should teach them that the only people in this country who are interested in a "state controlled church" are right wing Tea Party fanatics and that the rest of us know that they are 1)wrong, 2) ignorant 3)not really following Christian teaching and that the separation of church and state thing is really very much necessary.

But I am afraid that they are past help. You might explain to them that I do not like my taxes going to support right wing organizations, corporate bailouts and tuition for congressional employees children....just to name a few.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
41. So, if they don't want to live in this country any more, why are they accepting the evil
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:32 PM
Aug 2013

government's help to come back here?

I'm sooo confused! (Or they are.)

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
89. Because when the gov't is doing something for THEM
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 08:32 AM
Aug 2013

providing something that THEY want, it's doing Gawd's will. When the gov't gives some assistance to someone else, someone they don't approve of, then it's evil and is doing the devil's work. You see? It makes perfect sense.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
42. So why exactly did they get rescued?
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:38 PM
Aug 2013

At the risk of sounding rather heartless, they should have been left where they were. Okay, maybe rescue the children and leave the parents to get along just fine with no government interference.

What makes me so freaking crazy about people like this is that they simply define "government interference" to mean anything at all they don't happen to agree with. Well, guess what? There's a LOT our government does that I totally disagree with, starting with dumb illegal wars, continuing with every bit of black box funding there is, on through no universal health care and all sorts of other things that don't come immediately to mind. But I keep on hoping we can elect people who will make sensible changes in how the government spends its money (naive, I know) and meanwhile I understand how many basic things governments at all levels actually provide that I use and care about. Libraries. Streets. Sewer systems. Schools. Some health care.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
51. Did you see the face of the three year old in the photo?
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:11 AM
Aug 2013

My guess she is hoping for a miracle too..that she wakes up and has non wacko parents who won't
terrify her again with their next plan.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
93. Even the baby in the woman's arms looks miserable and tired of it already.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 11:47 AM
Aug 2013

Kids from wacko families like that rarely ever smile.

Source: I live in the Bible Belt. It's a miserable place.

Once, at a stop sign in East Rockingham, in the middle of winter, a baby wearing nothing but a diaper, crawled out of his sooty* yard, knocked on the car door and asked to come home with my aunt and me.

Talk about heartbreaking. Knowing he would spend the next several years crawling around in the yard every day, alone, in the extreme heat of summer AND in winter (which was when he asked to come home with us, it was 40 degrees outside), we didn't know what to do.

We got the address and called the cops and begged them to go to that house and help that kid. We never heard anything else and the kid was out there the very next day. I know this because I worked in a house across the street. It took my aunt and my boss and my boss' husband to hold me back from becoming a kidnapper that next day and the days after that. The kid wore nothing but a diaper in that cold and was outside all day every day crawling around in that soot and half burned trash. The cops would do nothing about it. It broke my heart to see it and know the cops wouldn't put a stop to it. Worse yet, I could do nothing about it legally either.

This is the same area of Rockingham where they pride themselves on how Christian they are. They used to burn down a house or vandalize it if a black family (or Latino family) moved there, and the children never smile. The kids there have a haunted look in their eyes that turns into pure hatred by the time they are adults.

*They burn their trash in East Rockingham every day. Pretty much everyone over there does it. All of the yards over there are full of soot and half burned trash. To me, it is one of the most disgusting places on Earth and should be a Superfund site.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
113. omg, that is horrific and unjustifiable. The law should have had social services there, but I
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:55 PM
Aug 2013

am guessing from what you've described, they have their own standard of horrific. I am almost afraid to know what it
would take for authorities in that area to respond.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
44. Uh, who are these two? Odd spot comes up on Google:
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:47 PM
Aug 2013

THE GASTONGUAY FAMILY
Prescott Valley, AZ
about
My wife Hannah, our daughter Bernice, God rest her soul, and myself Sean. Broke, homeless and driftin' playin music for the half drunk rounders roamin' the high plains of the Arizona desert.
music +
upcoming shows +

http://www.thesixtyone.com/TheGastonguays/#/artist/TheGastonguays/about/

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
90. I know, it's so bizarre..not sure what to make it. Hopefully, child services will look into
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 09:03 AM
Aug 2013

what is going on.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
47. They pissed off Baby Jesus™!
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 11:48 PM
Aug 2013

Had they stayed and voted (R), they'd have been blessed with minimum wage jobs, lack of healthcare, GMO foods, hatred to gays, and all the rest of the Godly Republican platform!

They done did something to piss off the Baby in the Sky™.

Baby Jesus™ says "HA!"

 

Safetykitten

(5,162 posts)
48. Kinda like that Christian dating service ad on TV. Find God's match for you...well if God
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:02 AM
Aug 2013

wanted to you meet your match, he would not send you to an internet site.

He would hook you two up. No middleman involved.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
79. These peoples' god needs a lot of technological help. And attention. And ego stroking.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:40 AM
Aug 2013

He's kind of high maintenance.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
49. These parents should be charged with child endangerment.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:03 AM
Aug 2013

Get caught smoking a joint and your kids get taken away. But an unhinged couples completely separated from reality takes their kids on a life-threatening 5,000 mile trip by small boat...and they keep their kids?! Why are they not at least being hit with child endangerment charges?

I mean, this alone should have resulted in charges:

The family moved in November from Ash Fork, Ariz., to San Diego, where they lived on their boat as they prepared to set sail. She said she gave birth to the couple's 8-month-old girl on the boat, which was docked in a slip at the time.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57597994/religious-family-abandons-u.s-gets-lost-at-sea/

Those poor kids...

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
52. With all the seamanship they learned by living Arizona, how could they have gotten lost?
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:14 AM
Aug 2013

And it's only 3300 miles or so from San Diego to Kiribati, not much difference between the distance from Miami to Vancouver which anybody can do in two and a half days

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
69. As the bat flies, yeah. IRL, not so much.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 03:26 AM
Aug 2013


The last scene shows Dracula and Cindy, transformed into bats, on their way to Jamaica. If only the couple had gotten their wings first. Squeak, squeak!

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
55. Hmmmmm! Is this the modern X-tian thing to do?
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:23 AM
Aug 2013

Take your kids on a very unsafe journey to find your ...... "gawd"?

"US couple in jail after fleeing to Cuba with kids

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — The Florida parents charged with kidnapping their boys from their grandparents and sailing to Cuba on a boat called "Salty" to elude authorities are facing a judge for the first time since they were forcibly returned from the island nation.

Joshua and Sharyn Hakken make their first appearance in court Thursday to hear the charges they're facing, including kidnapping, child neglect, false imprisonment, burglary and interference with custody.

Four-year-old Cole and 2-year-old Chase are now with their grandparents, who planned to talk about the ordeal publicly Thursday morning.

The couple arrived with their sons in Florida early Wednesday morning, accompanied by federal, state and local authorities after being handed over by Cuban officials.

Tien1985

(920 posts)
56. Noooo!!
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:26 AM
Aug 2013

We were so close to ridding ourselves of these whack jobs!!! Why didn't we send them to Kiribati instead?

Actually, since the people of Kiribati are going to be evacuating and whack nuts like these folks don't believe in climate change, can't we just offer to trade our wacknuts for their evacuees? They can have their own little fundie island to enjoy without driving everyone else insane.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
60. I like that fact so that many government entities were involved in their rescue; I guess their
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 01:28 AM
Aug 2013

god was on vacation at the time.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
65. Sounds like their adventure cost US taxpayers a pretty penny.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 02:36 AM
Aug 2013

Not to mention a few other countries. Including our arch-nemesis(according to Republicans and some DUers) the Venezuelans.


It sounds like they are not going to be forced to pay for any of it. I bet the irony is totally lost on them.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
70. What on earth made them think they'd be welcome in Kiribati?
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 03:31 AM
Aug 2013

'In June 2008, Kiribati officials asked Australia and New Zealand to accept Kiribati citizens as permanent refugees. Kiribati is expected to be the first country to lose all its land territory to global climate change. In June 2008, the Kiribati president Anote Tong said that the country has reached "...the point of no return." He added, "To plan for the day when you no longer have a country is indeed painful but I think we have to do that."'

'More recently, President Tong has spoken of climate-change induced sea level rise as "inevitable". "For our people to survive, then they will have to migrate. Either we can wait for the time when we have to move people en masse or we can prepare them—beginning from now ..."'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribati

Edited to add: csziggy included the first extract.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
71. Actually, I thought the RWR and RWNJ destination of choice was Cuba:
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 03:37 AM
Aug 2013
Police: U.S. couple who fled to Cuba with kids vowed "journey to the Armageddon"

Joshua and Sharyn Hakken seemed to have a charmed life, doting on their two young boys, buying a comfortable home and building successful careers as engineers. It all derailed last year when police in Louisiana found the family inside a hotel room with drugs, weapons and promises from the parents to take "a journey to the Armageddon."

The couple is now jailed on charges they kidnapped the boys from their grandparents in Florida and sailed to Cuba on a boat called "Salty" to elude U.S. authorities. The family arrived in Florida early Wednesday morning, accompanied by federal, state and local authorities after being handed over by Cuban officials. Four-year-old Cole and 2-year-old Chase are now with their grandparents and their parents in jail, closing a bizarre ordeal that began with an Amber Alert and ended with diplomatic intervention.

Friends of the couple said the family seemed happy and had no marital problems. "This is a train that went completely off the tracks, and I don't have any explanation for how it can go off the track that badly basically in a year and a half. It's very bizarre," said Darrell Hanecki, who employed Sharyn Hakken for nearly a decade at Hanecki Consulting Engineers...

The blinds at the Hakken household were drawn tight Wednesday. An "infowars.com" bumper sticker was pasted on their mailbox, a reference to conservative radio personality Alex Jones' Web site. A white SUV was in the driveway where neighbors said they usually saw a small boat parked. The boat was such a common presence that it was noticeable when it disappeared last week, said neighbor Simon Castillo...

Read more:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57578940/police-u.s-couple-who-fled-to-cuba-with-kids-vowed-journey-to-the-armageddon/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014450461

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
74. "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple."
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:16 AM
Aug 2013
(Luke 14:33 KJV).

"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Matthew 10:37


Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
Luke 17:33

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26

Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
John 12:25

If one was to take many words from the Gospels literally - It does not seem that far out - to go and do something completely crazy.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
87. They chose to go to a country that is slowly depopulating
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:31 AM
Aug 2013

In 2008, the government requested that Australia and NZ accept it's citizens as refugees as Kribari will likely be completely gone in our lifetime due to global climate change. The government also purchased land from another country to move some of their population as well

Maybe God forced them back because their decision was idiotic

wandy

(3,539 posts)
88. So lets see if I got this stright. Wishing to leave a godless............
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:37 AM
Aug 2013

country, you pack up little children in a boat that you most likely have only the smallest idea how to deal with. You get yourself lost at see and by some magic are rescued by people who probably have a very different idea of the invisible cloud being than you do.
And to top it off the godless country's state department has to arrange you're travel back to the godless country.
Where you will most likely bitch and moan about the godless country.

Yup. god sure does work in strange ways.

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
96. I wonder if the American taxpayers mind paying for the flight home and for the assistance
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 12:29 PM
Aug 2013

rendered by the American Coast Guard.

I protest paying taxes for dumbasses such as these.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
98. Don't worry. It's all part of Gawd's plan. He's playing eleventybillion-dimensional chess.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 01:07 PM
Aug 2013

I'm sure there's a reason...Ours is not to question or to know, blah de blah de blah ...

radhika

(1,008 posts)
102. In a way, Gawd did provide......
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 01:47 PM
Aug 2013

in the form of an organized and staffed Coast Guard, search helicopters, Venezuelan boats, international communications --- all human-created entities as I recall.

I wonder if they have the self-awareness to even contemplate the universal concept "Seeing the god in everything"?

Namaste!



Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
105. LiberalElite
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 03:06 PM
Aug 2013

LiberalElite

I do not believe they know what a "state-controlled Church" really is - and have no clue what so ever about what type of control a true state controlled Church is all about.... No clue what so ever...

But then again - I'm afraid to say - many americans seen to have little knowledge about most things.... But they sure is proud of the little they know...

Diclotican

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
108. Haven't you heard of the Mooslim obamaray?
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:09 PM
Aug 2013

It's an infrared signal emanated from the WH, that contains subliminal messages. AKA, the state controlled church-ray. Totally real.

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
109. Quantess
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 07:15 PM
Aug 2013

Quantess

Never heard about it before now But im are in no doubt that some belive that too...

Diclotican

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
116. I wouldn't be surprised if
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 09:46 PM
Aug 2013

a few of our right wing stalkers will believe what I wrote! "An infrared obamaray with subliminal muslin brainwash messages? I KNEW IT!!"

Diclotican

(5,095 posts)
121. Quantess
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:40 PM
Aug 2013

Quantess

I would not be surprised about myself.. I guess we have to wait a few days - and get to know by some of the more extreme right wing groups out there, who believe it to be true...

After all - the President of the United States is a communist, marxist - fascist, Nazis, Kenyan born Islamic and terrorist.... So why not this too?

Diclotican

ozone_man

(4,825 posts)
115. TJ says it best.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 09:39 PM
Aug 2013

"It is too late in the day for men of sincerity to pretend they believe in the Platonic mysticisms that three are one, and one is three; and yet that the one is not three, and the three are not one . . . But this constitutes the craft, the power and the profit of the priests. Sweep away their gossamer fabrics of fictitious religion, and they would catch no more flies." - Thomas Jefferson

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
119. They speak a different language than you and I
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:20 PM
Aug 2013

To them, "state control" of churches means the church is not allowed to have total control over the government.

Except for the part about having to give up Christianity for Islam, the Gastonguays would feel right at home in the Taliban.

 

jasond54231

(51 posts)
120. What a bunch of stupid fundie whackos
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 10:28 PM
Aug 2013

They'll make plenty of money from this publicity stunt, I reckon. Maybe that was their plan from the beginning?

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
124. The people on the Venezuelan fishing vessel that rescued then must have been
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 11:08 PM
Aug 2013

atheists who were not in communication with God, and didn't realize he was trying to thin out the herd of morons

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
125. In case you were wondering where Kiribati is......
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 11:38 PM
Aug 2013

...it's prit' near the bottom of the world:



- Poor things. I guess it looks closer when you Google it than when you actually have to go there.....

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
131. Sure their extremely reckless actions almost killed their entire family but,
Mon Aug 12, 2013, 08:13 AM
Aug 2013

it's not like tried to smoke a joint or are in a gay or lesbian relationship, beside we are talking about actual children here, and not fetuses.

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