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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:49 PM Aug 2013

Breaking: British Officials Gave U.S. "Heads Up" About Decision to Detain Glenn Greenwald's Partner

Last edited Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:54 PM - Edit history (3)

Source: Reuters / Guardian

@Reuters: British officials gave U.S. the "heads up" about decision to detain Glenn Greenwald's partner: White House #breaking

@BreakingNews: RT @breakingpol: White House: British officials gave US a 'heads up' on the David Miranda detention - @markfelsenthal http://t.co/zsBuxhQ3wk

Brits gave US the heads up on the Miranda detention, WH spox Earnest tells reporters at briefing

1:38pm - 19 Aug 13

Here's what we know after that White House press briefing:

• The US was given a "heads up" before David Miranda, partner of the Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald, was detained in London. White House deputy press secretary Josh Earnest confirmed on Monday that the UK alerted the US government that they would hold Miranda before he arrived at London's Heathrow airport.

• The White House said it did not give the order for Miranda to be detained, but nevertheless was kept aware of developments. "We had an indication it was likely to occur but it's not something we requested," Earnest said. Pressed on when the US was told Miranda would be held, he added: "It probably wouldn't be a heads up if they had told us about it after the detainment." Earnest said it would be "accurate" to interpret this to mean the US was told Miranda would be detained when his name appeared on the manifest.

• Earnest would not deny that the US had obtained access to Miranda's electronic material. Several items, including laptops, were seized at Heathrow. Asked by a reporter to "rule out that the US has obtained this material", Earnest said: "I'm not in a position to do that right now."

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2013/aug/19/glenn-greenwald-partner-detained-live-reaction



http://swampland.time.com/2013/08/19/white-house-wont-condemn-detention-of-glenn-greenwalds-partner

White House Won’t Condemn Detention Of Glenn Greenwald’s Partner

White House says the U.S. government got a "heads up" that detention was going to happen


By Zeke J Miller @zekejmillerAug. 19, 20130
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PABLO MARTINEZ MONSIVAIS / AP
Elements of the United States government were given a “heads up” before the British government detained David Miranda, the Brazilian partner of Glenn Greenwald, for nine hours over the weekend, White House Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest said Monday. He also declined to condemn the action.

“There was a heads up that was provided by the British government,” he told reporters in the midst of a spirited exchange with reporters. “So this — again, this is something that we had an indication was likely to occur, but it’s not something that we requested. And it’s something that was done specifically by the British law enforcement officials there.”

Earnest said there were “classified, confidential conversations” around the detention, but would not state whether the U.S. government expressed displeasure with the action. He would not say why the British informed the American government before the detention.

Miranda was detained for nine hours under that country’s Terrorism Act while transiting through Heathrow Airport, and had a range of electronic devices confiscated. He was travelling home from Germany, where he had stayed for a time with Laura Poitras, an American documentary filmmaker who has worked with Greenwald on stories about the National Security Agency. Greenwald is the author of a series of articles about the United States’ intelligence efforts at home and abroad based on information given to him by admitted Edward Snowden, a former U.S. intelligence contractor.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/317667-white-house-says-it-wasnt-involved-in-uks-detention-of-greenwalds-partner

White House: We weren't involved in detaining Greenwald's partner

By Justin Sink - 08/19/13 01:31 PM ET

The White House said Monday that it was not involved in the British government’s decision to detain the partner of Glenn Greenwald at Heathrow Airport over the weekend.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest said the detainment of David Miranda, who lives with Greenwald in Brazil, was “a law enforcement action that was taken by the British government.”

“The United States was not involved in that decision or that action,” said Earnest, who acknowledged the British government did inform the United States that the detention was likely to occur.
"There was a heads up that was provided by the British government,"
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Breaking: British Officials Gave U.S. "Heads Up" About Decision to Detain Glenn Greenwald's Partner (Original Post) Hissyspit Aug 2013 OP
The UK is working hard to protect their population and they have their own laws and rules, Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #1
So? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #3
I want to know: burnsei sensei Aug 2013 #7
Who are you to tell the Brits how to run their country? Do you by any stretch think they Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #18
The independent reviewer of terrorism law, shadow home secretary, former shadow h.s., muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #21
I do not use the guardian as a source of truthful information, writers does not Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #22
That's a fucking idiotic response muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #23
The Guardian has lost integrity, if there is an idiotic response then you won it. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #28
Sticking your head in the sand and pretending that anyone who doesn't praise muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #31
Can you read, I do not read the Guardian, it hasn't any integrity and this is the Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #33
But they writers does haz subject-verb agreement DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #34
Miranda is that most insidious of Terrorists, Maedhros Aug 2013 #20
Just so you are wondering? Aerows Aug 2013 #27
“Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.” AngryAmish Aug 2013 #12
Of course they did...his partner is still an American citizen... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #2
So you are saying that the possibility of being under investigation Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #24
You think other spouses of people suspected possible espionage do not find themselves under VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #25
I new amurka yes, In old America no. eom MyNameGoesHere Aug 2013 #29
+100 nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #30
That's malarkey and you know it! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #38
I do not know of this malarkey person MyNameGoesHere Aug 2013 #40
You've always lived in amurka... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #41
You were asked a question. Do you have an answer? DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #35
Gee Whiz Cryptoad Aug 2013 #4
Very unamerican of you to falsely call Greenwald, Poitras or Miranda 'criminals' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #17
They have already Cryptoad Aug 2013 #26
C'mon, take the leap Bragi Aug 2013 #37
Careful Cryptoad Aug 2013 #39
That from a single unsubstantiated "tweet"?? George II Aug 2013 #5
@OKnox White House won't say whether US tried to discour Hissyspit Aug 2013 #8
Josh Earnest is with the White House. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #10
good poodle Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #6
Checking in with their master. /nt Ash_F Aug 2013 #9
What coordination! Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #11
Greenwald may have Turbineguy Aug 2013 #13
Glenn has vowed revenge. Progressive dog Aug 2013 #14
the White House may be losing their "not in the loop" excuse nashville_brook Aug 2013 #15
Why? Have to check with Mommy? Downwinder Aug 2013 #16
did they give Brazil a heads up Enrique Aug 2013 #36
Which shows the British government were involved before detention, not just the police force muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #19
Good point, it does show that doesn't it? Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #32

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. The UK is working hard to protect their population and they have their own laws and rules,
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:52 PM
Aug 2013

they are a friend to the US as the US is a friend to the UK, terror can occur anywhere, the UK is very active in their surveillance and take it very serious. Perhaps it was believed the UK officials was asleep but not this time.

burnsei sensei

(1,820 posts)
7. I want to know:
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:04 PM
Aug 2013

just what are the terrorism links involving Mr. Miranda?
The Brits allowed one of their own soldiers to be beheaded on the streets of Woolwich.
Don't tell me anything about them harboring the intent to "protect their population."
They don't, and the detention of Mr. Miranda was one colossal waste of time and resources.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
18. Who are you to tell the Brits how to run their country? Do you by any stretch think they
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:45 PM
Aug 2013

allowed one of their soldiers to have been beheaded? My goodness, sick.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,314 posts)
21. The independent reviewer of terrorism law, shadow home secretary, former shadow h.s.,
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 03:45 PM
Aug 2013

and the chairman of the Commons home affairs select committee all want to know what the connection with terrorism is.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/19/david-miranda-detention-terrorism-law-watchdog

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/19/detention-david-miranda-keith-vaz-glenn-greenwald

And so do I, as a British voter.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
22. I do not use the guardian as a source of truthful information, writers does not
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 04:31 PM
Aug 2013

Have integrity. I am glad they check everyone as well as they do and if GG sent his partner to do his dirty work and was detained then it falls on GG's shoulders. GG is trying to play the big boys game and he does not know enough to do so.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,314 posts)
23. That's a fucking idiotic response
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 04:43 PM
Aug 2013

It's simple reporting of what the public figures have said.

What media do you trust? The BBC?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23750289

That repeats what Vaz, Anderson and Cooper said.

The Independent?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snowden-affair-scorn-poured-on-downing-st-denial-that-it-was-behind-controversial-heathrow-detention-of-david-miranda-8773642.html

That has Davis, Vaz, and Cooper. And the head of Liberty, for good measure.



muriel_volestrangler

(101,314 posts)
31. Sticking your head in the sand and pretending that anyone who doesn't praise
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 05:34 PM
Aug 2013

your saviour Obama 100% of the time 'has lost integrity' shows that you have stopped thinking. You have not noticed that all the people The Guardian said objected to the detention really did. You are wilfully ignorant.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
33. Can you read, I do not read the Guardian, it hasn't any integrity and this is the
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 05:47 PM
Aug 2013

Third post telling you the same. Yes I like President Obama, I don't have my head in the sand and I don't like GG and his goons.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
20. Miranda is that most insidious of Terrorists,
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 03:30 PM
Aug 2013

the "Not-Terrorist". See, the best way to infiltrate the West is not to be a Terrorist, therefore all good-thinking citizens should be twice as vigilant of Not-Terrorists. Al Qaeda is so evil and tricky that even people who are Not Terrorists are secretly working for them without knowing it. That's why we have to crack down on ordinary citizens - they are the most dangerous threat of all!

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
12. “Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.”
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:16 PM
Aug 2013

some british chappie

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
2. Of course they did...his partner is still an American citizen...
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:53 PM
Aug 2013

and is possibly under investigation...if not now...very soon.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
24. So you are saying that the possibility of being under investigation
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 05:01 PM
Aug 2013

makes this all ok? anyone could be in the future under possible investigation.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
25. You think other spouses of people suspected possible espionage do not find themselves under
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 05:05 PM
Aug 2013

this level of scrutiny? You seriously think that????

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
41. You've always lived in amurka...
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 06:33 PM
Aug 2013

you just didn't know it....the Teabaggers never lived through Leave it to Beaver either though they swear they did!

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
4. Gee Whiz
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:58 PM
Aug 2013

for moment there I almost forgot these are criminals dealing in the transfer of Classified documents..... how UnAmerican of me!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,314 posts)
17. Very unamerican of you to falsely call Greenwald, Poitras or Miranda 'criminals'
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:43 PM
Aug 2013

Very authoritarian of you, though.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
26. They have already
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 05:06 PM
Aug 2013

admitted that they committed the crimes they are to be charged with....

Try to stay current.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
37. C'mon, take the leap
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 06:02 PM
Aug 2013

You know you really want to call him a terrorist.

Criminal doesn't cover it for you.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
39. Careful
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 06:10 PM
Aug 2013

your Hate is showing....

you call him what you want ,

and I will do the same.....

but all the facts support my claims!

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. That from a single unsubstantiated "tweet"??
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:58 PM
Aug 2013

Got anything other than that?

And just what was that "heads up"? The decision to detain him was made by UK officials and it took place in the UK.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
8. @OKnox White House won't say whether US tried to discour
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:05 PM
Aug 2013

@OKnox White House won't say whether US tried to discourage UK from detaining @ggreenwald's partner.

Oliver Knox is chief Washington correspondent for Yahoo News.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
10. Josh Earnest is with the White House.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:06 PM
Aug 2013

@djwsjwhreporter: In briefing @jearnest44 says @whitehouse was given a heads up by British authorities about detention of @ggreenwald's partner.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
16. Why? Have to check with Mommy?
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:40 PM
Aug 2013

He is not a US citizen.

Do they check with Washington on every stop?

Did they give Brazil a heads up?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,314 posts)
19. Which shows the British government were involved before detention, not just the police force
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:49 PM
Aug 2013

because the British police force had better not be reporting to the American government.

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