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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:04 PM Aug 2013

Boy dead, three sick and more than 100 quarantined as Kyrgystan battles bubonic plague

Source: AFP

KYRGYSTAN officials are scrambling to control the spread of bubonic plague that killed a rural boy last week as three more people showed possible symptoms of the disease.

The easternmost district of Ak-Suu in the Central Asian country was in lockdown while police guarded the hospitals where 15-year-old Temirbek Isakunov was treated and died last Thursday.

The emergency ministry said that three more people from the same village as the victim were hospitalised yesterday on suspicion of being infected with the deadly disease.

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Bubonic plague is a bacterial infection that is a strain of the "Black Death", a virulent disease that killed tens of millions of people in 14th-century Europe.

Primarily an animal disease, it is extremely rare in humans.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world-news/boy-dead-three-sick-as-kyrgystan-battles-bubonic-plague/story-fndir2ev-1226705378758

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Boy dead, three sick and more than 100 quarantined as Kyrgystan battles bubonic plague (Original Post) Turborama Aug 2013 OP
Treatable with antibiotics perdita9 Aug 2013 #1
People potentially infected with the plague need immediate treatment Turborama Aug 2013 #4
Oh, but that is just "panic" according to one woefully ignorant poster here. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #15
The needed antibiotics are not as ubiquitous in that part of the world. Jenoch Aug 2013 #6
Because the vast majority of physicians in the world wouldn't recognize a case of kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #7
They'll recognize it if they know it's going around perdita9 Aug 2013 #10
Who is panicking? Link? kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #13
If you are thinking that the very appropriate public health measures they are taking to control kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #14
Those Wheaties boxes have a lot to answer for. Thanks as always Kestrel for sound info. nt Hekate Aug 2013 #19
YVW! kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #20
Right--"when you hear hoofbeats, don't think of zebras." nt raccoon Aug 2013 #11
Things like this make me appreciate the WHO, CDC, etc Marrah_G Aug 2013 #2
It shows up occasionally in America newfie11 Aug 2013 #3
Plague is endemic to wild rodents in the SW US. They find ground squirrels with it here in SoCal on kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #8
Yea it does show up newfie11 Aug 2013 #16
Correct. colorado_ufo Aug 2013 #17
sounds like they're getting a handle on treatment. That's a remote place in the world. Sunlei Aug 2013 #5
It lives in wild rodents. Their fleas spread it to humans and domestic animals. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #9
Pretty good basic background info on plague at Wikipedia: kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #12
It's only rare in humans because we learned to control rats and fleas in our cities. It still exists Hekate Aug 2013 #18

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
4. People potentially infected with the plague need immediate treatment
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:14 PM
Aug 2013

...and should be given antibiotics within 24 hours of the first symptoms to prevent death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubonic_plague#Treatment

Mortality/Morbidity
Bubonic plague has a 1-15% mortality rate in treated cases and a 40-60% mortality rate in untreated cases.
Septicemic plague (primary or secondary) has a 40% mortality rate in treated cases and 100% mortality rate in untreated cases.
Pneumonic plague (primary or secondary) has 100% mortality rate if not treated within the first 24 hours of infection.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/829233-overview#a0199



Also, to paraphrase the article, they are quarantining people to prevent the possible spread of the disease.
 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
15. Oh, but that is just "panic" according to one woefully ignorant poster here.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:42 PM
Aug 2013

I'll show you "panic". Panic is what will happen if you DON'T quarantine aggressively. Followed by mass death.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
6. The needed antibiotics are not as ubiquitous in that part of the world.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:29 PM
Aug 2013

They need to figure out who needs to be treated with the antibiotics as well. If they don't get the antibiotics within 24 hours of the first symptoms then the survival rate goes down.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
7. Because the vast majority of physicians in the world wouldn't recognize a case of
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:50 PM
Aug 2013

plague if it came up and bit them in the ass. Well, at least not until the buboes developed and it was too late, and possibly not even then. And they are not at all capable of recognizing PNEUMONIC plague or SEPTICEMIC plague, because they don't have unique markers on physical exam.

And yes, I do know a thing or two about plague. It's part of my professional responsibility.

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
10. They'll recognize it if they know it's going around
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:09 PM
Aug 2013

I'm not saying we shouldn't pay attention to this story. I'm just confused about all the panic. That's not how to effectively handle a public health crisis.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
14. If you are thinking that the very appropriate public health measures they are taking to control
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:40 PM
Aug 2013

the spread are "panic", you are sadly mistaken. Plague spreads like wildfire, and in Third World countries they don't have a very good grip on hospital hygiene. Undiagnosed cases of plague can spread to many people before anyone knows what is going on, and once people wind up with the pneumonic form, it spreads like wildfire X 1000.

Where did you get YOUR public health education? Off the back of a Wheaties box?

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
2. Things like this make me appreciate the WHO, CDC, etc
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:10 PM
Aug 2013

Unlike in times past we have the knowledge to stop this before it spreads further.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
3. It shows up occasionally in America
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:12 PM
Aug 2013

I remember it on a reservation in SD and one in NM. Also a campground I think
In Washington state.

All ya need is a flea carrying it.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
8. Plague is endemic to wild rodents in the SW US. They find ground squirrels with it here in SoCal on
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:56 PM
Aug 2013

a regular basis.

About 30 years ago a veterinarian in Tujunga (IIRC) died of pneumonic plague acquired when he did a most unwise postmortem exam on a wild ground squirrel that somebody had brought to his vet clinic.

And in Denver several years ago another veterinarian was exposed when a sick cat was brought to her clinic and she performed a physical exam on it and had close physical contact. She got pneumonic plague and was in the hospital, comatose, and near death in well under 24 hours. She made a full recovery, but that's nothing short of miraculous and a testament to what heroic medical care can do on occasion.

It's an occupational hazard for us here. I sincerely hope I never encounter it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
5. sounds like they're getting a handle on treatment. That's a remote place in the world.
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:19 PM
Aug 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrgyzstan

wonder what the vector is, fleas on their domestic animals or rats?

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
18. It's only rare in humans because we learned to control rats and fleas in our cities. It still exists
Wed Aug 28, 2013, 07:11 PM
Aug 2013

... and is endemic in rodents in the South West US.

Once it gets into a human being it is transmitted by coughing as pneumonic plague, and is very deadly.

I'm sorry for these people and hope that they get adequate medical support and that the quarantine works to keep it from spreading.

Yersinia Pestis....

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