House Speaker Backs Obama’s Call for Strike Against Syria
Source: New York Times
WASHINGTON Speaker John A. Boehner said on Tuesday he would support the presidents call to action in Syria after meeting with President Obama and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., giving the president a crucial ally in the quest for votes in the House.
Mr. Obama summoned Mr. Boehner and other Republican and Democratic leaders to the White House as he intensified his push for Congressional approval of an attack on Syria. Conservative House Repubicans have expressed deep reluctance about the presidents strategy, and winning Mr. Boehners approval could help the president make inroads with a group thta has not supported him on most issues in the past.,
For Mr. Obama, who leaves on Tuesday evening for a three-day trip to Sweden and Russia, it is the next phase in a White House lobbying campaign that will have to extend beyond hawks like Mr. McCain to persuade lawmakers who are reluctant to get involved militarily in Syria.
The presidents case will face scrutiny in Congress on Tuesday afternoon when Secretary of State John Kerry, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, testify before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/04/us/politics/obama-administration-presses-case-on-syria.html
TBF
(32,056 posts)THIS is what they decide to finally agree on? SMH ...
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)Fire up the social media, get the embeds on planes, and for gods sake the newest "Breaking News: Crisis in Syria" music written.
It's killin time. And we got a lot of killin to do. Because we are better than them. At killin
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Maybe 20 minutes?
Good grief!
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Most of the rank and file R's hate the Orangeman, so perhaps they will be more inclined to vote against the war, just to spit in his eye.
Farm vote redux?
onenote
(42,700 posts)I think you have your facts confused. While 62 R's defected from Boehner's position on the original Farm Bill vote, 171 voted with him. The bill was defeated because it was overwhelmingly opposed by Democrats. The second Farm Bill vote passed with near unanimous repub support overcoming unanimous Democratic opposition.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)I want them to take over the House and deny the attack from the White House so that they can torture 'mericans by cutting their benefits.
I want to see the orange man's head explode as they do.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)GOP Congressmen would vote against anything that supports the profits
and dividends of defense contractors.
I knew they'd come around.
And while I agree the outcome is uncertain and political chaos may increase,
you can't let a tyrant gas people without doing something about it.
President Carter's suggested regional diplomacy should be plumbed first.
durablend
(7,460 posts)They'll be bleating how this is OBAMA'S fuckup.
And the media will gladly oblige.
This is why it's win-win for them to go along with it.
John2
(2,730 posts)against this. You guys just have not figured it out. Only Tea baggers like Rand Paul want, but the neo con and corporate Republicans will. They have the same agenda as the corporate and Israeli lobby Democrats. I've figured Obama out. He criticises the extremes or what he calls the extremes in both Parties. I don't consider the Left that extreme however. Obama seems to be catering to the corporatists and Wall Street people. It doesn't matter the color of your skin when it comes to money.
I think there is nothing to stop them from their little War, as long as they hold the office of power. I do think it will backfire on them and end up being bad for everyone. These people think they are unbeatable, and are willing to startrs that will end up costing thousands and maybe millions of innocent lives. They are playing on the worse characteristics of human kind such as religious and racial hatred just to divide people up. What they are interested in is wealth and power. The only people think it is their right to dictate to the rest of us are these people who believe they are above everyoneelse and it is their right. My problem is these people think they are purer than everyone else but they themselves are guilty of the worst atrocities in this world.
Think about whom Boerhner and McCain and what they are claiming to want to go to War in Syria for. Then compare that to their actions in this country and how they treat poor Americans. Think about Boerhner's attitude with the Budget. This is a joke to me, calling this people the defenders of Human Rights. How can any American think these characters in our Government are examples of honesty is beyond me. I don't like Obama's attitude on CPI, intelligence and now this. I don't like how he only selects neocons and republicans for important Justice and intelligence Posts. I'm laying it down now. Obama is doing this, because just like that idiot George Bush, he probably thinks this will be a piece of cake and people want fight back. He claims that he is defending innocent people over there, but he is not.
I think these people will put up a fight because it is their land and their lives. You have to know the state of the human condition and mind. There are things in life peoople will fight for and I think this is it. The Syrian people are not by themselves. I do not think they support the Governments of Saudi Arabia, Qatar or Turkey. I also think the situation in Egypt is being vastly misjudged, because the U.S. State Department tried to save Morsi. I'm hearing another decree by the people or secular groups that opposed the U.S. backing of the Morsi Government, the same as it was with the week before his ousting.
They have came out totally against the U.S. and back the Syrian Government despite what has been read by the Arab League. The Saudi Government and Qatar has a lot of influence, but opposing voices are being drowned out. We are going to have a bigger War, than most people think because voices are being drowned out and oppressed by the Western controled media.
I think the Syrian Army will be fighting for their country, along with other groups, which will probably come as a big surprise to people in the West, about the resistance. I think it will spread to other resistance groups in Iran, Iraq,Bahrain,Turkey,Algeria,Yemen,Lebanon and even Saudi Arabia, Jordan and even Kuwait and Qatar. I think this will really spread and that is the miscalculation by Mr Obama and his supporters in Congress. I really do think Israel,Saudi Arabia,Qatar, Jordan and even Turkey will be in jeopardy. Especially Jordan,Qatar,Saudi Arabia and Israel that are in the immediate striking area of the region.
War in a limited area is a risky business and no matter how much military power you have in these small countries, they have to be able to have supply and reinforcement routes. If you have conflicts breaking out all over the region, it is very hard for containment. That is the game the Obama administration and certain Western countries are playing and they could well regret it when all is said and done.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)There are a lot of rural Tea Party Republicans who don't have links to big business and who reflect the long-standing isolationist thread in the Republican Party.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)If Boehner allows a free vote, he probably can't get it through the House; if he whips a "yes" vote and has to overturn the Hastert Rule again and still loses.....
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)The national security elite on one side, anti-interventionist liberals and libertarians on the other.