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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 03:06 PM Sep 2013

Americans Oppose Syrian Action 48-29: Pew (Six in 10, Post-ABC)

Source: Bloomberg

BY MARK SILVA | SEP. 3, 2013 1:58 PM EDT

President Barack Obama faces “an uphill battle in making the case for U.S. military action in Syria,” the people at the Pew Research Center say, reporting on a poll showing that, by a 48 to 29 percent margin, more Americans oppose than support military airstrikes against Syria.

An ABC News/Washington Post poll finds even stronger opposition to a missile strike, with nearly six in 10 opposed.

The surveys were conducted as the Obama administration was making a public case for retaliation against Syria’s deployment of chemical weapons near Damascus and then the president announced on Saturday that he is seeking congressional approval. That quest is underway today on Capitol Hill and at the White House.

The Aug. 29-Sept. Pew survey of 1,000 adults shows that the president faces a challenge among his own party’s supporters: Just 29 percent of Democrats favor conducting airstrikes against Syria while 48 percent are opposed. Independents oppose action 50-29. Republicans are more divided: 35 percent favoring airstrikes,40 percent opposed.



Read more: http://go.bloomberg.com/political-capital/2013-09-03/americans-oppose-syrian-action-48-29-pew/

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Americans Oppose Syrian Action 48-29: Pew (Six in 10, Post-ABC) (Original Post) Purveyor Sep 2013 OP
Clearly a majority of Americans sympathize with Hitler durablend Sep 2013 #1
"President Barack Obama faces “an uphill battle"" Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #2
I think they did the same sort of thing to Bush. Quantess Sep 2013 #7
Meanwhile the Right Wing would scream "Treason" at even QUESTIONING Dubya. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #12
It is Carolina Sep 2013 #9
He's busy trying to convince the Powers That Be that he can stick to the script. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #11
They never cared about christx30 Sep 2013 #23
Absent a 24/7 media drumbeat to go to war, this is what happens. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #3
Unlike Vietnam and Iraq, there is not even an initial majority to support military action. Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #4
Now we're gonna get hiy by a GIANT mushroom cloud! Wilms Sep 2013 #5
If we strike..... musical_soul Sep 2013 #6
Tune changers warrant46 Sep 2013 #14
Okay, so we're hypocrites. musical_soul Sep 2013 #15
What happened to the other 23%? The Stranger Sep 2013 #8
They're still fixated on Miley n/t durablend Sep 2013 #10
Who wouldn't be? arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #13
We need to make some noise iandhr Sep 2013 #16
Who cares what we think? KamaAina Sep 2013 #17
They will care John2 Sep 2013 #19
I wanted to quote what a caller on Randi Rhodes just said: tofuandbeer Sep 2013 #18
Not enough opposition. Anti-war forces have a LOT of work to do. David__77 Sep 2013 #20
I will not support any candidate running for election in '14 that supports this bastard war. THAT Purveyor Sep 2013 #21
I'm willing to agree to that one. David__77 Sep 2013 #22
We have a senate seat (Levin's) and house seat in the mix. I'll need to hear the candidates position Purveyor Sep 2013 #24
what the American people think doesn't matter. Here we go again. olddad56 Sep 2013 #25
In a two party system, and both parties are for war, though the people are against war daleo Sep 2013 #26
Ah, you are being observant. woo me with science Sep 2013 #27
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
2. "President Barack Obama faces “an uphill battle""
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 03:29 PM
Sep 2013

See? They want to make this all about an Obama "victory" or "defeat".

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
7. I think they did the same sort of thing to Bush.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 03:46 PM
Sep 2013

I used to get so mad at the headlines and the articles, written as though Pretzeldent Bush was the center of the universe, and that no matter what happened, the articles focused on Bush's widdle feewings. "What about the rest of us who have to put up with that idiot's reckless bullshit?!" was what I said every day, reading the newspaper.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
9. It is
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 03:51 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Tue Sep 3, 2013, 09:47 PM - Edit history (1)

he has fought for this "intervention" about "accountability" more zealously than he ever fought for the public option in health care!

BHO is showing just who he is and who he answers to and it ain't those of us who supported him!

christx30

(6,241 posts)
23. They never cared about
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 07:15 PM
Sep 2013

public perception on the health care law. A lot of people here don't give a crap either. "It's the law. If you don't like it, tough. Just comply, or face fines and go to jail." is what I read on here all the time.
If your side is in charge, why should you care about how the other side feels about a bad law or a horrible war? Shove it down their throats.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
3. Absent a 24/7 media drumbeat to go to war, this is what happens.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 03:33 PM
Sep 2013

The public is skeptical because there is no clear humanitarian objective, and the media is skeptical because there's no money to be made.

musical_soul

(775 posts)
6. If we strike.....
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 03:41 PM
Sep 2013

can we necessarily take out the weapons that killed people in the first place or are they going to be used on us or Israel first? Is this strike worth all the potential strikes that could happen after that?

The next question is what made Syria important enough to step in? Countries are barbaric toward people all the time, and we usually don't step in. We didn't step in with Rwanda, Iran, or North Korea. Iraq was barbaric toward its people, but a lot of liberals thought that striking would do more harm than good or that we had another objective.

Not trying to be mean, but if you're for this strike in Syria, but was an anti-war protester ten years ago, then you owe George Bush an apology.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
14. Tune changers
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 04:53 PM
Sep 2013

"if you're for this strike in Syria, but was an anti-war protester ten years ago, then you owe George Bush an apology." (Your Quote)

Bravo Bravo that's the issue here isn't it ?

Actually Saddam used US made Nerve gas on the Iranians with the help of the US CIA before we decided he wasn't our Hit Man any more. They can't deal with that either.

musical_soul

(775 posts)
15. Okay, so we're hypocrites.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 05:04 PM
Sep 2013

However, we still have a President declaring that he wants to strike and doesn't need the approval of anybody. Sound familiar at all?

I think we need to drastically reduce our interference. We don't have the money for this. If we do get involved, then we need to make sure we can do it right and eliminate the threat. I'm not convinced we'll be able to do that.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
16. We need to make some noise
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 05:18 PM
Sep 2013

Not ***** about the President on a website. Call your Senators and Representatives when congress gets back in session.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
19. They will care
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 05:59 PM
Sep 2013

if it isn't a quick War. Most of these Politicians supporting it will be pointing the fingers at Obama if it doesn't turn out so Rosy. Remember who Kerry was pointing the fingers at when he ran for President. It want work this time. I can guarantee you some backstabbing Republicans will be putting the blame on the Democratic Party too. We just need new people to run in both Parties, to get rid of these old Politicians. These people don't work for us. I don't think it will turn out as rosy as many people think, but it will be too late, once you get into it. Obama keeps claiming the regime, but that regime does have a backing. He is ignorant about the history of Syria, just like Egypt. It is a secular regime battling Islamic extremism. The Islamists are using the United States because they are so confused by the Netanyahu Government and their interests. You have three seperate interests competing for control. You have to let nature take its course and for what it is worth, I don't disgree with Sarah Palin on this. I actually think the secular forces will win in the end, because every religious group are not fanatics. I do not think the Salafists and Muslim Brotherhood are led by moderates and I think the worse devils in the Middle East are the monarchs., just like the corporatists in the West. All they want is power and material wealth. Regardless of all the sophisticated weapons in the World, I still place my bet on people. I think the side the U.S. are supporting are mercenaries and some of their Allies are the worst ever for this country. There are people in the Middle East hate these rulers more than they hate Assad. They see these rulers as betraying their own people. That is how I see it. I do expect them to lash out at the parties they can reach, such as the monarchs, and Israel. Thousands of miles of water does not seperate them. I don't think a country having hundreds of nuclear weapons will neccessarily save anything either when the fight is to the Death.

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
18. I wanted to quote what a caller on Randi Rhodes just said:
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 05:33 PM
Sep 2013

"Where there's chaos, there's money to be made."
Something like that.

It sounds to me like our leaders have already made their minds up about this.

David__77

(23,372 posts)
20. Not enough opposition. Anti-war forces have a LOT of work to do.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 07:04 PM
Sep 2013

In this country, you have to have an overwhelming consensus against war for the elites to listen.

The politicians need to FEAR voting yes. My congresswoman will be hearing from HUNDREDS of my of my fellow constituents in the coming days. She will know that a "yes" vote will have definite consequences. Indeed, it is a "red line."

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
21. I will not support any candidate running for election in '14 that supports this bastard war. THAT
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 07:09 PM
Sep 2013

IS my "Red Line"!

David__77

(23,372 posts)
22. I'm willing to agree to that one.
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 07:12 PM
Sep 2013

I'll be honest and say that I know it won't matter though, in my case. But any "safe" Democrat who supports this thing deserves a strong primary challenge. I don't have much influence here in my district, but I know there are some progressives itching to go after the establishment. It could at least divert resources and attention. If they don't want that to happen, better vote no.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
24. We have a senate seat (Levin's) and house seat in the mix. I'll need to hear the candidates position
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 07:17 PM
Sep 2013

in both races.

Walberg will NEVER get my vote for Rep but that doesn't mean I have to vote for his opponent.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
26. In a two party system, and both parties are for war, though the people are against war
Tue Sep 3, 2013, 10:03 PM
Sep 2013

It doesn't sound like democracy.

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