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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 10:42 PM Sep 2013

Kerry not losing sleep after Putin calls him a liar: U.S.

Source: Reuters



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department dismissed as "preposterous" Russian President Vladimir Putin's statement that Secretary of State John Kerry lied to Congress about al Qaeda's role in Syria.

"Secretary Kerry is, as you all know, a decorated combat veteran," State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said, referring to Kerry's service during the Vietnam War. "He's had ... more than words aimed at him.

"So he's not losing sleep after such a preposterous comment that was based on an inaccurate quote and was completely mischaracterized," she added.

On Wednesday, Putin accused Kerry of lying about the militant group al Qaeda's role in the Syrian conflict.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/kerry-not-losing-sleep-putin-calls-him-liar-190448510.html

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Kerry not losing sleep after Putin calls him a liar: U.S. (Original Post) onehandle Sep 2013 OP
I tend to believe John Kerry rather than the KGB underpants Sep 2013 #1
Seriously. nt onehandle Sep 2013 #2
You are siding with Putin and the KGB? wisteria Sep 2013 #9
Judging by this OP Turborama Sep 2013 #18
No kidding! Me, too.. YvonneCa Sep 2013 #13
Nope, I would not take Putin's word on who lying, Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #3
Putin Underground? nt onehandle Sep 2013 #4
Anyone who says that al Qaeda is not in Syria in a significant way is lying. former9thward Sep 2013 #5
Kerry did not say that karynnj Sep 2013 #6
Oh, and where are you getting your intelligence information from? wisteria Sep 2013 #12
I don't get my intelligence from the guy who said Iraq had WMD. former9thward Sep 2013 #26
Putin is full of s**t. Dawson Leery Sep 2013 #7
Is that really the State Department's best response? fujiyama Sep 2013 #8
I would think that his war experience lends credibility wisteria Sep 2013 #11
"Demonstrate strength"? fujiyama Sep 2013 #14
He's SELLING a war, for Chrissakes. arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #16
dead on n/t Psephos Sep 2013 #21
Putin seems almost hysterical over Syria wisteria Sep 2013 #10
Here's one opinion that BlueMTexpat Sep 2013 #19
Russia wrote off roughly 70 percent of Syria's $13.4 billion debt in 2005. Turborama Sep 2013 #20
+1000 for the info. nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #23
More Turborama Sep 2013 #22
Putin is a Chekist piece of shit. MicaelS Sep 2013 #15
Nice use of an historical reference Kolesar Sep 2013 #24
anyone siding with putin is to say the least an idiot madrchsod Sep 2013 #17
But it took six men to hold down Teresa. tavernier Sep 2013 #25

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
5. Anyone who says that al Qaeda is not in Syria in a significant way is lying.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 10:59 PM
Sep 2013

Anyone who says al Qaeda is not the main military force among the rebels is lying.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
6. Kerry did not say that
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:14 PM
Sep 2013

He was asked if they were becoming an increasing part of the opposition. At a different part, he cited the SD estimate on the % and I think the number given was somewhere near 20% extremist. (My memory on the number may be in error - I do know he gave a % that was the estimate.) 20% is significant.

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
26. I don't get my intelligence from the guy who said Iraq had WMD.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:59 AM
Sep 2013

That would be Kerry. And he "vetted" that intelligence or so he said. I get my facts from a variety of news reports from news media all over the world. It is not that hard. For anybody to say al Queda is not in Syria in a big way means reporters and analysts all over the world are in a conspiracy to create that impression. If conspiracy theories get you thru the day go for it. Any strike on Syria will aid al Queda who we are supposed to be fighting.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
8. Is that really the State Department's best response?
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:23 AM
Sep 2013

"John Kerry is a decorated combat veteran"?

Well, no shit. That's why I'd expect more out of him. I expect someone knowing the horrors of war not being such a booster for another potentially disastrous one. And I'd expect him to actually take the Russian president's concern less lightly, whether we like him or not.


 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
11. I would think that his war experience lends credibility
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:34 AM
Sep 2013

to his argument to strike Syria. He would not undertake this action lightly. Personally, I think sometimes it is important to demonstrate strength in order to gain peace.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
14. "Demonstrate strength"?
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:39 AM
Sep 2013

Spare me the euphemisms. You mean, you gotta kill the civilians in order to save them. We heard it before just over ten years ago. And I'm sorry I'm having a tough time taking Kerry seriously when he isn't taking Russia's concerns of Al Qaeda coming into Syria seriously. This is a major concern for them and it should be for us as well.

But apparently, we can blithely just dismiss the Russians because we're just a bitch for the Saudis.

 

arewenotdemo

(2,364 posts)
16. He's SELLING a war, for Chrissakes.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:13 AM
Sep 2013

The other day he told the Congress this:

“With respect to Arab countries offering to bear costs and to assess, the answer is profoundly yes,” Kerry said. “They have. That offer is on the table.”

Asked by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) about how much those countries would contribute, Kerry said they have offered to pay for all of a full invasion.

“In fact, some of them have said that if the United States is prepared to go do the whole thing the way we’ve done it previously in other places, they’ll carry that cost,” Kerry said. “That’s how dedicated they are at this.


If those words don't curdle your blood....

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
10. Putin seems almost hysterical over Syria
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:29 AM
Sep 2013

and a possible strike, makes me wonder what he has going on in Syria and how it benefits him.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
20. Russia wrote off roughly 70 percent of Syria's $13.4 billion debt in 2005.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:32 AM
Sep 2013

The Russia-Syria axis is rooted in a strong political and economic relationship that has been cultivated since the late 1950s. The bond has a deep cultural element: many Syrians go to Russia to study, while Russians go to Syria as holidaymakers, advisors or investors. Over the years, Russia has also played an essential role in restructuring the Syrian economy, and wrote off roughly 70 percent of Syria's $13.4 billion debt in 2005.

While reliable numbers are hard to come by, The Moscow Times estimated Russian investments in Syria at $19.4 billion in 2009, covering infrastructure, energy and tourism. But with outstanding projects ranging from a nuclear power plant to oil and gas exploration, the number today may be considerably higher.

Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101004539

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
22. More
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:47 AM
Sep 2013

From Wikipedia, references for more details at the link:


Military cooperation
The Syrian port city of Tartus hosts a Soviet-era naval supply and maintenance base, under a 1971 agreement with Syria. The base was established during the Cold War to support the Soviet Navy's fleet in the Mediterranean Sea. Since Russia forgave Syria of three-fourths, or $9.8 billion, of its $13.4 billion Soviet-era debt and became its main arms supplier, Russia and Syria have conducted talks about allowing Russia to develop and enlarge its naval base, so that Russia can strengthen its naval presence in the Mediterranean.[4] Amid Russia's deteriorating relations with the West, because of the 2008 South Ossetia War and plans to deploy a US missile defense shield in Poland, President Assad agreed to the port’s conversion into a permanent Middle East base for Russia’s nuclear-armed warships.[5] Since 2009, Russia has been renovating the Tartus naval base and dredging the port to allow access for its larger naval vessels.[6]

Syria for the past few years has reached out to Russia to obtain modern weapons that included many modern anti-tank and anti-air missile systems that will further improve its combat capabilities. In 2008, Syria agreed to purchase MiG-29SMT fighters, Pantsir S1E air-defense systems, Iskander tactical missile systems, Yak-130 aircraft, and two Amur-1650 submarines from Russia. Russia's foreign minister said his country's sale of weapons to Syria would not upset the balance of power in the Middle East. The sales he stated are "in line with the international law" and "in the interests of strengthening stability and maintaining security" in regions close to Russian borders, Sergei Lavrov told reporters during a visit to the United Nations in New York.[7] As of 2011, Syria's arms contracts with Russia were worth at least $4 billion.[8][9] Dmitri Trenin reports in the New York Times that from 2000 to 2010 Russia sold around $1.5 billion worth of arms to Syria, making Damascus Moscow’s seventh-largest client.[10]

Economic relations
Russia has significant trade relations with Syria. Its exports to Syria were worth $1.1 billion in 2010 and its investments in the country were valued at $19.4 billion in 2009 according to The Moscow Times.[11][12] Besides lucrative arms contracts worth at least $4 billion, Russian firms have a substantial presence in Syria's infrastructure, energy and tourism industries.[8] Stroitransgaz, a natural gas facility construction company, has the largest Russian operation in Syria. In 2010, it was involved in projects worth $1.1 billion and had a staff of 80 Russians working in Syria. Stroitransgaz is building a natural gas processing plant 200 kilometers east of Homs in the Al-Raqqa region and is involved in technical support for the construction of the Arab Gas Pipeline. Tatneft is the most significant Russian energy firm in Syria. The company began in 2010 through a joint venture with the Syrian national oil company to pump Syrian oil and it planned to spend $12 million on exploratory wells near the Iraqi border.[11] Other firms with large business interests in Syria include steel pipe manufacturer TMK, gas producer ITERA, and national carrier Aeroflot.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Syria_relations

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
15. Putin is a Chekist piece of shit.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:48 AM
Sep 2013

Always has been, and always will be. I would not believe one word out of his mouth.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
17. anyone siding with putin is to say the least an idiot
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 01:13 AM
Sep 2013

all the players in the middle east are fighting or have a vested interest in the "winner" in the war for who controls the pipelines.

tavernier

(12,383 posts)
25. But it took six men to hold down Teresa.
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 07:11 AM
Sep 2013

Otherwise she would have cleaned Putin's clock. I wouldn't mess with that little lady!

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