Bob Menendez: Putin Op-Ed Almost Made Me Want To Vomit
Source: Huffpo
Senator Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) nearly said goodbye to his dinner when he read Russian President Vladimir Putin's op-ed in The New York Times cautioning the U.S. against military intervention in Syria.
Writing in the Times, Putin criticized American militarism. "It is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States," he wrote. "Is it in Americas long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan 'youre either with us or against us.'"
"I have to be honest with you, I was at dinner, and I almost wanted to vomit," Menendez said in an appearance on CNN Wednesday night. "The reality is, I worry when someone who came up through the KGB tells us what's in our national interest and what is not. And, you know, it really raises the questions of how serious this Russian proposal is."
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PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)jsr
(7,712 posts)dkf
(37,305 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)If it doesn't then it's not serious.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 12, 2013, 03:08 AM - Edit history (2)
American Intervention has become commonplace, some good and some stink! Im also not sure that our MIC and CIA is not that different from the KBG..
What really makes me want to vomit is our unprecedent attack on Iraq and our self justified use of torture..
I also realize that Russia is not a beacon of anything but a Plutocratic society...But I think our house needs a good cleaning and perhaps Putin will admit that his country needs much improvement in these areas as well.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)MattSh
(3,714 posts)Saying it made you want to vomit is the type of thing that goes over well with the CNN demographic.
Maybe try a more dignified media outlet next time, huh Bob? Do thinking folks a favor.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)markpkessinger
(8,395 posts). . . I'd like to ask Menendez: what exactly did Putin say in the Op-Ed that was untrue?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)He's the only one (other than assad) making that claim.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Is this Jr. High??? This is the very reason why everything is fucked up! We have so-called ''Senators'' who don't know our country's history of death and destruction.
Here Senator, if you keep reading the truth you're gonna need this:
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Sure, it sucks coming from Putin, a man not without his own misdeeds, crimes and actions.
But sadly, all he said in the Op ed was true....and that is what is sickening.
Nancy Waterman
(6,407 posts)The only horror is that what Putin told us is what our own politicians don't have the cohones to speak.
All this blubber about American exceptionalism gets really tiresome and is little more than pandering and
pumped up arrogance. And our chronic militarism is an issue, made far worse by Bush, but still far too quickly our
kneejerk response.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Assad didn't do the chemical weapon attack? The rebels bombed themselves?
John2
(2,730 posts)so in the know, can you explain a few things? Why are you getting rebels making claims, Assad wasn't behind the attack? Why don't the Kurds believe your claims? They are claiming they now have video of who made the attacks and now point fingers at an Al Nusra group, which made earlier chemical attacks.
The rebels making the claims about, not knowing what the chemicals were, also claimed they were transferring them to Al Nusra brigades, before they had an accident, which killed several of their fighters. It is well known, these groups don't come under a unified command and some of them work independently. It is also well known the Terrorist groups have better fighters and are more experienced with weapons, than other groups.
The U.S., Britain and France have categorically denied, the rebels have no access, or capability to carry out chemical attacks, but several sources, other than the Russians and Assad regime indicated Al Nusra Brigades were found in possession of amounts of Sarin. Now if what the U.S., France, and Britain claims are true, then just why would these brigades be caught with the substance?
There is also other independent evidence coming from a UN team itself, the U.S. tried to debunk earlier. You forgot the report by the female swedish inspector, having said her team gathered reports from eyewitnesses, including civilian victims.
Then there was a report even from a subordinate official around Ankara, about the apprehension of rebel fighters, whom at first described the substance they found on them was sarin, but this was quickly pulled back by the Erodogen Government, which bought demands from the Russian Government. They demanded that Prime Minister Erodogen release the information. Many of these foreign Terrorists cross the Syrian\Turkey border, and the Erodogen Government is openly supporting them. He has a problem with the Kurds, and has been using these Terrorists to battle the Kurds.
Another independent source, that you seem to deliberately omit, was the allegations by the Iraqi Government and the possession of sarin by Alqaeda Terrorists from Iraq. This brings into the U.S., CIA and General Petraeus. Remember the surge in Iraq, a few years back. The U.S. intelligence agency themselves, reported Alqaeda was behind attacks that produced strange gases and feared that Al Qaeda might have developed that potential, but they weren't sure. These gases came from mortar attacks, by Al Qaeda insurgents, whom were clearly working with Saddam Hussein Loyalists.
Now lets look further at another report, that the Western Media seems to have neglected but has definitely been reported by opposition media. An officer from the Intelligence service of Qatar, was assassinated, but was involved in undercover work, when transported chemical weapons through Libya via Turkey, which supplied the rebels. It is one sides' evidence or allegations against another. I don't know any court room would dismiss evidence, because one side demonizes the character of the other. You need to proof, and your evidence has to stand up in front of the jury. As hard as the one side wants to demonize the other, they need to show the evidence. Until the Obama Administration and John Kerry produces evidence and where they obtained it, I don't believe them.
It is not the case so far from the other side. They have produced such evidence, and even rebels admitting guilt. You have some of the worst killers in the World operating for the rebels, that will do anything. So go ahead and trust these characters. And as far as Mr Menendez, he is bought and payed for by the Israeli lobby in this country. Do anybody really want to put weight on his opinion?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and Britain, France and Germany while they're at it. As far as trusting - don't make stupid assumptions. I've long said both sides suck and neither is worth even one American life.
tavernier
(12,383 posts)That's rich.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)It was said with purposeful irony and sarcasm....
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)We can't handle the truth.
We're #1. Yeah right.
sendero
(28,552 posts).... instead of vomit, our country wouldn't be circling the drain right now. Your rhetoric is typical of what passes for thought and judgment in this congress.
momrois
(98 posts)I'm beginning to believe that the sooner we reach a point that there is very little, to no, historical cold war memory the better we'll all be. Then maybe we can try to work together to solve problems rather than play tit-for-tat games.
askeptic
(478 posts)Yes, it's important to put on a grand show and big theater in order to try to divert the public's attention from the many serious issues involved here.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)"they should call him Vladimir Puke-in"
olddad56
(5,732 posts)I almost wanted to take him seriously.
QuestForSense
(653 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)Cuts both ways. Funny that.
QuestForSense
(653 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)So, I guess we're even.
Edit for clarity
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)That makes ME want to vomit.
The letter D is worth less and less every single day.