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Pterodactyl

(1,687 posts)
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 01:31 PM Sep 2013

Kenosha teachers union is decertified

Source: Milwaukee Wisconsin Journal-Sentinel

The union representing Kenosha teachers has been decertified and may not bargain base wages with the district, but teachers in Milwaukee and Janesville met the state's Aug. 30 deadline to apply for re-certification, a state agency representative says.

Because unions are limited in what they can do even if they are certified, the new status of Kenosha's teachers union — just like the decertification of many other teachers unions in the state that did not or could not pursue the steps necessary to maintain certification in the new era of Act 10 — may be a moral blow more than anything else.

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With contracts that were in place through the end of June, teachers in the three large southeastern Wisconsin districts were protected the longest from the new legislation, which limits collective bargaining, requires unions to hold annual votes to be recognized as official entities, and mandates that teachers and other public employees pay more out-of-pocket for their health care and retirement costs.

Read more: http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/kenosha-teachers-union-is-decertified-b9997068z1-223549741.html

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truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
2. Who 'de-certified' them?
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 01:49 PM
Sep 2013

Or did this happen at the request of the membership?

More likely is this is Scott Walker's doing, no?

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
4. Why would they de-certify their own union so that it couldn't negotiate on their behalf...
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 03:55 PM
Sep 2013

...I must be missing something here...:confused:

 

TheDeputy

(224 posts)
7. My union did, once.
Fri Sep 13, 2013, 04:27 PM
Sep 2013

My union once decertified. We didn't want to be part of the FOP anymore. We then voted to represent ourselves in a new union.

Pterodactyl

(1,687 posts)
13. Good point.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:47 PM
Sep 2013

I've been in two different unions in my life, and both times they took dues every week and didn't do a darn thing for me. And once someone from the union came to me (albeit informally) to warn me about working too hard and making everyone else look bad.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
9. Remember teachers are NOT cover by FEDERAL UNION LAW, only STATE UNION LAW
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:31 AM
Sep 2013

Now PRIVATE EMPLOYERS are covered by FEDERAL union law and under FEDERAL LAW a vote has to be taken to decertify. Most states adopted similar laws for their governmental employees (The only employees NOT covered by FEDERAL union law).

The Big problem is WISCONSIN STATE UNION LAW.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Wisconsin_Act_10

Collective Bargaining: The bill would make various changes to limit collective bargaining for most public employees to wages. Total wage increases could not exceed a cap based on the consumer price index (CPI) unless approved by referendum. Contracts would be limited to one year and wages would be frozen until the new contract is settled. Collective bargaining units are required to take annual votes to maintain certification as a union. Employers would be prohibited from collecting union dues and members of collective bargaining units would not be required to pay dues. These changes take effect upon the expiration of existing contracts. Local law enforcement and fire employees, and state troopers and inspectors would be exempt from these changes

Thus the union has to have a CERTIFICATION VOTE EVERY YEAR.

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2011/related/acts/10.pdf


SECTION 289. 111.83 (3) (b) of the statutes is created
to read:
111.83 (3) (b) Annually, no later than December 1, the commission shall conduct an election to certify the
representative of a collective bargaining unit that contains a general employee. There shall be included on the ballot the names of all labor organizations having an interest in representing the general employees participating in the election. The commission may exclude from the ballot one who, at the time of the election, stands deprived of his or her rights under this subchapter by reason of a prior adjudication of his or her having engaged in an unfair labor practice. The commission shall certify any representative that receives at least 51 percent of the votes of all of the general employees in the collective bargaining unit. If no representative receives at least 51 percent of the votes of all of the general employees in the collective bargaining unit, at the expiration of the collective bargaining agreement, the commission shall decertify the current representative and the general employees shall be nonrepresented. Notwithstanding s. 111.82, if a representative is decertified under this paragraph, the affected general employees may not be included in a substantially similar collective bargaining unit for 12 months from the date of decertification. The commission’s certification of the results of any election is conclusive unless reviewed as provided by s. 111.07 (8)

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
14. it's a good thing we have a Democratic president who...
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 04:11 AM
Sep 2013

a fuck it.

I can't even muster the sarcasm. Obama and the DLC democrats have pretty much taken their union supporters and fed them like dog biscuits to their big donors.

Every union should act as if they have no friends in elected office, because they probably don't.

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