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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 08:14 AM Sep 2013

Syrian rebel leader says Assad moving chemical weapons to Lebanon, Iraq

Source: Reuters

ISTANBUL, Sept 14 (Reuters) - Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces have started moving some of their chemical weapons to Lebanon and Iraq in the last few days to evade a possible U.N. inspection.

General Selim Idris said rebel brigades regard the proposed U.S.-Russian deal to eliminate Assad's chemical arsenal as a blow to their two-and-a-half-year uprising to remove Assad.

There was no immediate comment from Syrian authorities.


Read more: http://www.trust.org/item/20130914115030-vyw8h

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Syrian rebel leader says Assad moving chemical weapons to Lebanon, Iraq (Original Post) Bosonic Sep 2013 OP
I don't know, hardcover Sep 2013 #1
I was thinking the same thing as I read the OP 7962 Sep 2013 #2
Hummmm, If the FSA know it, Israel know it, and they will never accept CW in Lebanon. Sand Wind Sep 2013 #3
Has anyone seen Rumsfeld or Chenney this week? Thor_MN Sep 2013 #4
So far, AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #13
Propagandized edit of ACTUAL Reuters Report from "Trust.ORG" Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #5
Trust.org was founded by Thomas Reuters. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #7
Compare lead paragraph of OP to Reuters feed.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #10
OP is word for word identical to the earlier Reuters report on the main Reuters website muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #14
I see. Well, at least the later report is passable journalism.... Junkdrawer Sep 2013 #15
Which rebel leader? Wilms Sep 2013 #6
General Idris. See also - pinto Sep 2013 #8
What I was trying to say is.. Wilms Sep 2013 #17
Ah, yeah. Got it. pinto Sep 2013 #21
Agreed. And here's another one. Wilms Sep 2013 #24
Is he a beheader rebel or a cannibal rebel? HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #27
He could be both. daleo Sep 2013 #28
No doubt American sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #9
Syrian rebel leader says lots of things. Some might even be true. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2013 #11
Just wishful thinking . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #12
Hi Everyone ... MrChaoticAttractor Sep 2013 #16
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Sep 2013 #20
I hope so as well. pinto Sep 2013 #22
I bet this will take about a week. n/t hughee99 Sep 2013 #18
Ten years ago, Chalabi said the same thing (well, reverse actually) *nt Alamuti Lotus Sep 2013 #19
Yes! Been a while since I heard that name ... MrChaoticAttractor Sep 2013 #23
A common question: muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #25
Still a prominent wannabe in Iraq Alamuti Lotus Sep 2013 #26
Somehow I doubt it; the whole region is perrenially adversarial bhikkhu Sep 2013 #29

hardcover

(255 posts)
1. I don't know,
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 08:34 AM
Sep 2013

before the Iraq war it was said that Iraq moved its chemical weapons to Syria. What are we to believe?

 

Sand Wind

(1,573 posts)
3. Hummmm, If the FSA know it, Israel know it, and they will never accept CW in Lebanon.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 09:15 AM
Sep 2013

So if you see an attack from Israel, then it's confirm. If not, Idriss maybe just wrong.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
5. Propagandized edit of ACTUAL Reuters Report from "Trust.ORG"
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 10:11 AM
Sep 2013

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - The head of the opposition Syrian Supreme Military Council said on Saturday a U.S.-Russian agreement to eliminate Syria's chemical weapons was a blow to the two-and-a-half-year uprising to remove President Bashar al-Assad from power.

General Selim Idris said the deal would allow Assad to escape being held accountable for killing hundreds of civilians in a poison gas attack on Damascus on August 21. Assad has denied responsibility for the attack.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov announced the agreement on removing Syria's chemical weapons on Saturday after nearly three days of talks in Geneva.

Idris said Assad's forces had started moving some of their chemical weapons to Lebanon and Iraq in the last few days to evade a possible U.N. inspection. The assertion could not be immediately verified.

...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/14/us-syria-crisis-idris-idUSBRE98D05K20130914

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
10. Compare lead paragraph of OP to Reuters feed....
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 11:33 AM
Sep 2013

The Iraq part of the supplied YouTube clip only raises questions in my mind....

muriel_volestrangler

(101,407 posts)
14. OP is word for word identical to the earlier Reuters report on the main Reuters website
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:44 PM
Sep 2013
ISTANBUL, Sept 14 | Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:58am EDT

(Reuters) - Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces have started moving some of their chemical weapons to Lebanon and Iraq in the last few days to evade a possible U.N. inspection.

General Selim Idris said rebel brigades regard the proposed U.S.-Russian deal to eliminate Assad's chemical arsenal as a blow to their two-and-a-half-year uprising to remove Assad.

There was no immediate comment from Syrian authorities.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/14/syria-crisis-idris-idUSL5N0HA08D20130914


Note that is 7:58am EDT; your link goes to a later 9:03am EDT Reuters report.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
21. Ah, yeah. Got it.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 01:59 PM
Sep 2013

It's a convoluted situation, no? Multi-partied civil war. Removing chemical weapons from the picture won't solve the conflicts. I think all agree on that. Yet it sure would be one step in deescalating the death tolls.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
24. Agreed. And here's another one.
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 02:11 PM
Sep 2013
Turkish prosecutors indict Syrian rebels for seeking chemical weapons (10 tons of chemicals in May)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023666551

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
27. Is he a beheader rebel or a cannibal rebel?
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 02:52 PM
Sep 2013

Its getting hard to keep these moderate rebel groups straight.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
9. No doubt American
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 11:28 AM
Sep 2013

intelligence assets, including satellite reconnaissance are in place over Syria. The Syrians couldn't move a camel into Iraq or Lebanon, let alone convoys of chemical weapons without the US knowing it, and the Syrians know it too.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
12. Just wishful thinking . . .
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 12:34 PM
Sep 2013

Surely our recon satellites would be able to pick up such suspicious transfers, and we wouldn't have to rely on Idris to tell us the news. Also, when such actions were attempted earlier, Israel was not slow to launch her own air strikes against them.

I hope, therefore, this is just wishful thinking on the part of a not exactly neutral observer.

 
16. Hi Everyone ...
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 01:30 PM
Sep 2013

I need to respond to an existing thread as my first post according to DU rules. So thanks for having me, I hope I can provide some interesting opinions and will do my best try. Been lurking forever and finally signed up.

As to the topic, I am having a serious deja-vu. Wasn't the reason we couldn't find Iraq WMD because they moved them to Syria - according to Bush co. operatives? I am opposed to the whole Syria intervention, and simply can't understand how we can justify it as Democrats. I hate to imagine conspiracies, but this whole thing is playing out almost exactly like Iraq. Maybe the new development with Russia will prove me wrong - hope so.

 
23. Yes! Been a while since I heard that name ...
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 02:06 PM
Sep 2013

What ever happened to that guy? Wasn't he on Fox News every night as the "expert" on Iraq's WMD program prior to invasion? And then set up to be our puppet in the new govt. there? I think the CIA later found out he was 100% full of it and the Iraqis hated him ... wonder where he slithered off to? Syria?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,407 posts)
25. A common question:
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 02:35 PM
Sep 2013
And in January 2012, it was reported that Chalabi had been in contact with some members of the leading opposition group in Bahrain, Al Wefaq National Islamic Society. (Bahrain has been wracked by sometimes violent protests by the Shi’ite majority at the rule of the Sunni al-Khalifa family.) This was confirmed by Jawad Fairooz, secretary general of Wefaq and a former member of Parliament in Bahrain.

“Mr. Chalabi has helped us with contacts in Washington like other people have done and we thank them,” Fairooz told the New York Times, "but we are not allowing any person or party from outside to dictate us what to do in Bahrain.”

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/19/17374117-iraq-war-10-years-later-where-are-they-now-ahmed-chalabi-iraqi-exile-leader?lite


He's still in the Iraqi parliament: March 2010 - http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/05/world/meast/ahmed-chalabi-fast-facts/index.html

Working with the Bahraini opposition may be the most honest thing he's ever done.
 

Alamuti Lotus

(3,093 posts)
26. Still a prominent wannabe in Iraq
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 02:51 PM
Sep 2013

When the tide was turning on being a blatant US puppet, he hung out his shingle for Iran instead. For a time he was acting as the conduit between the ruling al-Da'awa party and another quisling Iyad Alawi (saddam's former henchman and assassin in Yemen and Europe), during their brief alliance. Hes quietly bounced back and forth between Saudi and Iranian parties, spreading his legs for anyone who will pay him. As the poster above mentioned, he was also a consultant for certain Bahraini opposition parties, as something of a back channel for Iraqi/Iranian support for the opposition to the US/Saudi-backed dictatorship there.

bhikkhu

(10,726 posts)
29. Somehow I doubt it; the whole region is perrenially adversarial
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 06:03 PM
Sep 2013

and I don't think Assad would give his "friends" chemical weapons any more than Saddam did. Its unlikely for all the same reasons.

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