Costa Concordia in Italy freed from rocks
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Source: BBC
Engineering officials in Italy say they have succeeded in lifting the cruise ship Costa Concordia free of rocks, 20 months after it ran aground.
Efforts to right the ship, one of the largest and most daunting salvage operations ever undertaken, are continuing through the night.
The vessel has been detached from rocks and moved on to a platform constructed on the sea bed, officials said.
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Engineers have never tried to lift such a huge ship - over 951 feet long (290m) - so close to land.
Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24104741
At the scene
Europe correspondent:
Essentially this is simple physics. It's a little like a challenge you might set a classroom of school children. There's a capsized ship on the rocks. You can't cut it up as you might harm the waters it is lying in. How do you raise it?
Direct webcam link:
http://www.giglionews.it/2010022440919/webcam/isola-del-giglio/webcam-giglio-porto-panoramica.html
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Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...on the port side which will rotate the wreck upright.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)They're sort of like pontoons, attached to the ship side.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I just correcting for the record.
BTW, the term "parbuckling" the media has been using to describe the operation isn't exactly accurate. Parbuckling is how the righting cables are attached and operated, just one part of the operation. It is a method of cabling that rolls the object as its being lifted. Usually its on a much smaller scale...such as rolling a barrell up a steep ramp, or lifting a long horizontal object like a spar to a higher point. Pretty cool they're using it to right the ship...must be some immense cables, pulleys and winches. Wish I could see it up close, this is 4 or 5 thousand year old technology used on a giant scale.
pinto
(106,886 posts)Saw a mock-up slide show about the process a while back. They have to right it. Thanks for the update.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)maybe because I have a friend who lives just across the Tyrrhenian channel in Isola La Maddalena, Sardinia.
He said they were all shamed by the captain's ignoble behavior. Everybody in those waters makes their living from the sea and they are proud of their seafaring roots.
pinto
(106,886 posts)It seemed a really poor set of navigation decisions. Or poor execution.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)cazzo (pl. cazzi) : literally penis, can be used as an exclamation or for emphasis; there are countless expressions using this word in a variety of contexts, as detailed in the entries below.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...used on a grand scale. It is fascinating.
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)For this baby it would have taken billions and billions!
gopiscrap
(23,766 posts)petronius
(26,607 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)pulling her upright. They're been showing the live video on Reuters and the starboard side is just MANGLED!!!
On edit: Here's a screen grab. Under where I've placed the arrow is the crushed starboard side. Damn!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Somewhere on the BBC site, they said she was at 44-45°.
Rhiannon12866
(206,420 posts)Thanks for posting this on this busy news day. Fascinating story!
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)I am so glad there are folk who know how to do these things. Seems an exceptionally complex scheme, but it seems to work. I am curious re the cost of doing this vs salvage in place, but someone said salvage in place was not OK?? I remember cutting the Navy shop apart in the Philippines last year. Congratulations everyone.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)But there was concern over more environmental damage if salvaged in place.
shebornik
(127 posts)And all of the other floating hotels they've mislabeled as ships. These cruise ships are unsafe (even with a competent captain), unhealthy (for the passengers jammed into close quarters and the sea life exposed to the tons of human waste) and unnecessary (there are plenty of water slides, casinos, video games and televisions on dry land). To those few who really want to experience the beauty and awesomeness of the sea go out in a sailboat no motor no stereo no distractions. If you don't become addicted to it, then stay on land.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,058 posts)The ships are quite safe when you consider passenger-miles and passenger-hours. Even though statistic are hard to come by and hard to definitively crunch, nobody should fear going on a cruise ship. They are more likely to die driving to the airport or to the seaport.
People tend to have unreal ideas about risk and their fears are generated and distorted by such posts.
There are three types of customers, as far as I can see: 1) Landlubbers looking for the floating theme park aspect. 2) Specialty cruisers like special gay cruises, educational cruises, culinary cruises, etc. 3) Older passengers who like the slow pace, the comfort, the multiple destinations, and the shore excursions with every convenience laid on.
My mother falls into the latter category. Sailing on a sailboat is not an option due to age and lack of strength and lack of agility.
shebornik
(127 posts)and the age, health, and desires of your mother wont change mine. My 88 year old mother enjoyed her ride on a 26 ft sailboat and said it was more fun than the cruise ship she went on a few years ago where she and several others got sick when they had problems with the toilets. You see we can back up our opinions with our own "facts" but they're just opinions. Cruise ships work for you and your mom, good enjoy. I think they're floating cesspools.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,399 posts)or 'stay on land'. You have radically changed your tune if you now say "Cruise ships work for you and your mom, good enjoy".
shebornik
(127 posts)The first line in my reply to bernardo is, you have your opinion and I have mine. The last line,which follows the subtly sarcastic one you're quoting is, I still think they are floating cesspools. No radical change that I can see, and I'm sure bernardo still feels the same about cruise ships as he did before reading my post. I have no problem with people disagreeing with my opinions, but I do with people who read something into them that's not there.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,058 posts)shebornik
(127 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)That ship's totaled - the damage is so massive there's no way to make her able to carry passengers again. Once they get her afloat, she'll be towed off to be scrapped.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)and where did you go LOL
shebornik
(127 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,399 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Somebody mentioned that a British firm (in Fulton?) built the underwater platform to support her.
P.S. I've always admired your last name: volestrangler...bwaahaaa! Those poor defenseless creatures--heartless you are!
muriel_volestrangler
(101,399 posts)...
"Fiona and Charles" was a regular in the show. Betty Marsden played Dame Celia Molestrangler, and Hugh Paddick was 'ageing juvenile' Binkie Huckaback (named after theatrical impresario Binkie Beaumont). Their characters Fiona and Charles were a pair of lovestruck, dated cinema idols engaging in stilted, extraordinarily polite dialogues, in scenes that were parodies of Sir Noël Coward's style, most particularly that of Dame Celia Johnson and Trevor Howard in Brief Encounter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_the_Horne
http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Wing-commander-Muriel-Volestrangler-F-R-H-S/dp/0413567907
And don't think they're that defenseless ... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x249029 (reply #8)
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)That was before I settled in Europe.
Who knew about those domestic terrorists of the animal world.? Insidious, I say. The voles in league with the beavers.
They are sapping the walls from inside. And they are being assisted by water voles!
joshcryer
(62,280 posts)Granted, that does look like the walkway that was crushed as opposed to the internals of the ship, we'll have to see if it can float again. If so I'd love to see the cost of the salvage operation / repairs vs the cost to build the thing.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It would cost more to repair than to build a new one. Just the salvage operation alone cost more than a new ship. They couldn't leave it or cut it up in situ because of enviromental concerns. Insurance is paying for the salvage.
joshcryer
(62,280 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Then pump the water out out of the sponsons to refloat the ship. It will then be towed someplace to be cut up.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)petronius
(26,607 posts)heavy metals, but also rotting food:
http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-italy-costa-concordia-20130917,0,937131.story
I'm not sure how long or widespread of an impact 8 tons of rotten beef would have, but I wouldn't want to see or smell it. Glad it's all worked out so far...
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)question everything
(47,551 posts)cynzke
(1,254 posts)Aristus
(66,485 posts)Glad they're getting it out of there.
petronius
(26,607 posts)Two things I hadn't realized: now that it's rotated, it sits deeper in the water, so parts that were dry all along are now flooded. I wonder if they removed property from those above-water parts in advance, or if it was too dangerous?
Also, sounds like they won't tow it away until Spring; there's still a long way to go...
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)And the reason it's deeper in the water is because they haven't actually floated it yet; they basically rolled it downhill onto a stable platform.