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Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 01:39 AM Sep 2013

WHAT A TRIP: TIMOTHY LEARY'S FILES GO PUBLIC IN NY...

Source: AP


[font size="1"]In this circa 1961 file photo provided by the New York Public Library, a curled-up Timothy Leary reads a book. Leary saved thousands of documents, correspondence and writings relating to his scientific research into psychedelic drugs in the 1960s, much of it never published but now available to scholars and the public at the New York Public Library, which purchased the collection in 2011 from the Leary estate. (AP Photo/File, New York Public Library, Manuscripts and Archives Division)[/font]


NEW YORK (AP) — A trove of Timothy Leary files, much of it previously unpublished, could shed new light on the LSD guru, his controversial research into psychedelic drugs and the emergence of the '60s counterculture.

The New York Public Library, which acquired the vast archive for an undisclosed sum from the Leary estate in 2011, is making the material available for the first time Wednesday to scholars and the public.

The archive "is the missing link in every attempt to piece together an account of research into Timothy Leary and the emergence of scientific research into psychedelic drugs and popular drug counterculture," said Denis Berry, a trustee for the Leary estate.

Leary, who coined the phrase "turn on, tune in, drop out," was one of the most polarizing figures of the counterculture. He advocated the therapeutic use of psychedelic drugs including LSD and psychedelic mushrooms. Allen Ginsberg, Abbie Hoffman, Jack Kerouac, Aldous Huxley and other noted figures frequently visited Millbrook Estate in upstate New York where Leary continued to conduct his psychedelic experiments after being fired as a psychology lecturer at Harvard University...

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WHAT A TRIP: TIMOTHY LEARY'S FILES GO PUBLIC IN NY... (Original Post) Indi Guy Sep 2013 OP
Should be interesting. Hoyt Sep 2013 #1
I have met many people who need to change their mind. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author longship Sep 2013 #3
oh geez, that's the worst vid of the Moody Blues I've ever seen. delrem Sep 2013 #4
Yup! But none of the Moody Blues vids would embed. longship Sep 2013 #5
watch my update. delrem Sep 2013 #6
Sorry. There's no "Legend of a Mind" on that clip. longship Sep 2013 #12
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #13
Gees, what about limited bandwidth and context of the OP do you not understand? longship Sep 2013 #15
It was a BAD VID OF THE MOODY BLUES. It was FUCKING UNFAIR, it was so bad. delrem Sep 2013 #16
I agree so I self deleted. Then you posted a vid that didn't even have the freaking song on it. longship Sep 2013 #17
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #18
It did not have "Legend of a Mind"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! longship Sep 2013 #19
Oh, I guess a performance of "Tuesday Afternoon" sandwiched in the most awesome manner delrem Sep 2013 #20
It ain't fucking about Timothy Leary though, is it? longship Sep 2013 #21
K&R DeSwiss Sep 2013 #7
That's just a personal attack. delrem Sep 2013 #8
Hey you know what? DeSwiss Sep 2013 #11
About what should I "chill", straightman? delrem Sep 2013 #14
Chill, in this usage, is an intransitive verb. Cool off, simmer down, chill. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #26
No. You are freaking out. The graphic and the post make no reference to you at all. Zip. Zilch. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #25
Leary lives on.... JohnnyRingo Sep 2013 #9
Perhaps that's not a bad idea. ?. delrem Sep 2013 #10
Until a few years ago.... JohnnyRingo Sep 2013 #27
The resulting responses to this thread... Earth_First Sep 2013 #22
Tim Leary was the first person to demonstrate to me how to use a computer to Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #23
No wonder your posts are some of the most cogent on DU. nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #34
Maybe this will help with the "bad vibes" in this thread. Or not... Bongo Prophet Sep 2013 #24
Thanks Bongo Prophet... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #28
He introduced Uma Thurman's mother to her future husband jakeXT Sep 2013 #29
Very Cool story. Thanks! nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #31
Leary was a gifted thinker and scientist 1000words Sep 2013 #30
now with the drug warz, all LSD is faked, probably meth/animal tranks. Even 'street' marijuana.... Sunlei Sep 2013 #32
Where else can you possibly find Quantess Sep 2013 #33

Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

delrem

(9,688 posts)
4. oh geez, that's the worst vid of the Moody Blues I've ever seen.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 03:06 AM
Sep 2013

It certainly doesn't represent the place or force of the Moody Blues in US and world culture.

eta: PLEASE COMPARE

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Yup! But none of the Moody Blues vids would embed.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 03:10 AM
Sep 2013

I tried four of them.

Sorry. I agree. Will self delete. Not worth the effort.

longship

(40,416 posts)
12. Sorry. There's no "Legend of a Mind" on that clip.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 05:16 AM
Sep 2013

I ate a ton of my very limited bandwidth to find that out.

The purpose of my post was to post that specific song, not just any Moody Blues.

Here are the lyrics (I hope):

Timothy Leary's dead.
No, no, no, no, He's outside looking in.
Timothy Leary's dead.
No, no, no, no, He's outside looking in.
He'll fly his astral plane,
Takes you trips around the bay,
Brings you back the same day,
Timothy Leary. Timothy Leary.

Timothy Leary's dead.
No, no, no, no, He's outside looking in.
Timothy Leary's dead.
No, no, no, no, He's outside looking in.
He'll fly his astral plane,
Takes you trips around the bay,
Brings you back the same day,
Timothy Leary. Timothy Leary.

Along the coast you'll hear them boast
About a light they say that shines so clear.
So raise your glass, we'll drink a toast
To the little man who sells you thrills along the pier.

He'll take you up, he'll bring you down,
He'll plant your feet back firmly on the ground.
He flies so high, he swoops so low,
He knows exactly which way he's gonna go.
Timothy Leary. Timothy Leary.

He'll take you up, he'll bring you down,
He'll plant your feet back on the ground.
He'll fly so high, he'll swoop so low.
Timothy Leary.

He'll fly his astral plane.
He'll take you trips around the bay.
He'll bring you back the same day.
Timothy Leary. Timothy Leary.
Timothy Leary. Timothy Leary.
Timothy Leary.


I'll try one more time here. If this doesn't work, people will have to Google it themselves.

Response to longship (Reply #12)

longship

(40,416 posts)
15. Gees, what about limited bandwidth and context of the OP do you not understand?
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 05:33 AM
Sep 2013

I apologize for putting up a bad video. But given that you posted one that was totally out of context of the OP, I'll call it even.

The Moody Blues song I tried to post is the only one they recorded about Timothy Leary. It's called, "Legend of a Mind".

Sheesh!

longship

(40,416 posts)
17. I agree so I self deleted. Then you posted a vid that didn't even have the freaking song on it.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 05:45 AM
Sep 2013

The whole point was to get "Legend of a Mind" into this thread. Not just any old Moody Blues song.

Now do you understand?

Bed time. It's late.

Response to longship (Reply #17)

delrem

(9,688 posts)
20. Oh, I guess a performance of "Tuesday Afternoon" sandwiched in the most awesome manner
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 05:56 AM
Sep 2013

doesn't present a better manner of portraying your subject.
fuckit - the video above is classic.

longship

(40,416 posts)
21. It ain't fucking about Timothy Leary though, is it?
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 06:09 AM
Sep 2013

Let me spell it out to you so that you can understand. I won't use too many large words, I promise.

1. The original post is about Timothy Leary.

2. The Moody Blues recorded a song about Timothy Leary in the late 60's entitled "Legend of a Mind". I posted the lyrics up thread. You might take a couple of minutes to review them.

3. I thought that a video of the Moody Blues playing that song would be good in a thread about... Da Dahhhh! Timothy Leary. So I attempted to post it here. I was not attempting to post "Tuesday Afternoon" here because it did not fit with the thread's theme, TIMOTHY LEARY!

Now. Do you get it? Maybe we both need some sleep. Or maybe you are being deliberately obtuse. Regardless, I am done with this thread. I have tried my best.

The song is entitled "Legend of a Mind". If you can figure out a way to get a better recording of that song into this thread I would be much obliged.

Thank you and I am buh-bye.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
11. Hey you know what?
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 05:07 AM
Sep 2013
- Chill.



''A sense of humor results from perspective. The wider the perspective, the more humor you will perceive.'' ~Robert Anton Wilson

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,069 posts)
25. No. You are freaking out. The graphic and the post make no reference to you at all. Zip. Zilch. nt
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:09 AM
Sep 2013

"Psychedelic drugs cause paranoia, confusion, and total loss of reality
in politicians that have never taken them." Dr. Timothy Leary

delrem

(9,688 posts)
10. Perhaps that's not a bad idea. ?.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 04:38 AM
Sep 2013

I don't see anything that could benefit by excoriating Leary, for being associated with studies that are of scientific importance.

Or perhaps there is some kind of other agenda.

JohnnyRingo

(18,689 posts)
27. Until a few years ago....
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 11:30 AM
Sep 2013

...that site showed only his immortal words printed across the screen:

"Think for yourself and question authority".

Anyone who says that is bound to run afoul of public image vandals.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
23. Tim Leary was the first person to demonstrate to me how to use a computer to
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:40 AM
Sep 2013

search for information, long before this was common or even a commonly known possibility. We laughed at him when he said computers were the next psychedelics, the next big paradigm shift.
A very sweet and wildly intelligent man.

Bongo Prophet

(2,653 posts)
24. Maybe this will help with the "bad vibes" in this thread. Or not...
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:55 AM
Sep 2013

Timeout for unnecessary rudeness.
...

At any rate, I hope some good new books or other media will come of this. Thank you to the OP for the info!

Always recommended to read Leary, more than just listen to rumors and gossip about him.
It makes a big difference. The man was a much better intellect than many give him credit for being...

I chose this one thinking maybe the slideshow would add interest.
This thread is, after all, more about Uncle Tim (err, Dr. Leary) than it is about the Moody Blues anyway.





Edit to add: It does have a problem with one channel of the stereo dropped, which is particularly bad because the "No, no n-no, he's outside..." parts are barely there at all. Ah well, fill then out in your head, those that care will know it anyway. Or find a better version. I have to have the volume way down because of sleeping family members.

Shhh, where's my

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
28. Thanks Bongo Prophet...
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 03:17 PM
Sep 2013

...for the "trip" down memory lane. The video brings back impressions I haven't experienced in a very long time.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
29. He introduced Uma Thurman's mother to her future husband
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 04:46 PM
Sep 2013
Her mother, Nena von Schlebrugge, was a Mexican-born Swedish supermodel of the 1960s who later became a New York psychotherapist. She was friends with Salvador Dali, who introduced her to drug guru Timothy Leary, whom she married on camera in a bizarre documentary, You're Nobody Until Somebody Loves You. Less than two years later, though, Schlebrugge left Leary for Robert Thurman, and the jilted Leary became Uma Thurman's godfather.
http://www.nndb.com/people/598/000023529/

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
30. Leary was a gifted thinker and scientist
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 04:50 PM
Sep 2013

It's unfortunate his legacy is often reduced to buzzwords and cultural stereotypes. Someday, reflexive contempt for 60s counterculture will dissipate and his work will be recognized for the genius it is. The release of this archive seems like a step in the right direction.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
32. now with the drug warz, all LSD is faked, probably meth/animal tranks. Even 'street' marijuana....
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 05:09 PM
Sep 2013

is faked dangerous stuff a lot of the time.

Thanks Obama! lol

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
33. Where else can you possibly find
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 05:13 PM
Sep 2013

a bit of news about Timothy Leary the psychedelic pioneer, and someone getting hostile over an (arguably) lame and tiresome band from the 1960s, in one place?

Only on the DU!

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