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alp227

(32,019 posts)
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:32 AM Sep 2013

Navy Yard: Swat team 'stood down' at mass shooting scene

Source: BBC

One of the first teams of heavily armed police to respond to Monday's shooting in Washington DC was ordered to stand down by superiors, the BBC can reveal.

A tactical response team of the Capitol Police, a force that guards the US Capitol complex, was told to leave the scene by a supervisor instead of aiding municipal officers.

The Capitol Police department has launched a review into the matter.

Aaron Alexis, 34, killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/24153252



Of course, from my google search of "stand down" "aaron alexis" the right wing media jumped all over the story.

By the way I compared the top 10 results from these keywords on Google and DuckDuckGo (a non-tracking ad-free searcher that Thom Hartmann uses).

The top 10 on Google:
Breitbart
Breitbart
Inagist (some wannabe Twitter site)
ConservativeAngle.com
StevesComments.Wordpress.com (sounds like a right wing blog)
Atlas Shrugs (Pamela Geller's blog)
HotAir.com
WJLA
Google News collection of results
Fox Nation

DuckDuckGo:
Fox Nation
Conservative Angle
BBC
WJLA
Guardian
Las Vegas Guardian Express (Natural News wannabe Woo-woo/alt med site)
blackkettle.wordpress.com (right wing blog again?)
AL.com (news site, home of the Birmingham News & other Advance Publications services in Alabama)
Breitbart
The Blaze

It seems that DuckDuckGo is less biased in its search results; Google always brings up the wingnut websites.

But wow, this is so frustrating right here. As if those Benghazi stand down allegations weren't stupid enough.
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Warpy

(111,254 posts)
2. They were dressed to riot, not help
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:41 AM
Sep 2013

and the gunny was dead. Telling them to get lost was the wisest thing, get them out of the way so the paramedics could come in.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
3. No, it says this was before he was reported dead
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 05:31 AM
Sep 2013
Multiple sources in the Capitol Police department have told the BBC that its highly trained and heavily armed four-man Containment and Emergency Response Team (Cert) was near the Navy Yard when the initial report of an active shooter came in about 8:20 local time.
...
According to a Capitol Police source, an officer with the Metropolitan Police Department (MPD), Washington DC's main municipal force, told the Capitol Cert officers they were the only police on the site equipped with long guns and requested their help stopping the gunman.

When the Capitol Police team radioed their superiors, they were told by a watch commander to leave the scene, the BBC was told.

The gunman, Aaron Alexis, was reported killed after 09:00.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/24153252

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
7. It also says the police on the scene wanted their help; it was commanders offsite who told them
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 04:31 PM
Sep 2013

to stand down.

According to a Capitol Police source, an officer with the Metropolitan Police Department (MPD), Washington DC's main municipal force, told the Capitol Cert officers they were the only police on the site equipped with long guns and requested their help stopping the gunman.

When the Capitol Police team radioed their superiors, they were told by a watch commander to leave the scene, the BBC was told.


So it was not 'known dead at the scene'.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. don't know the exact timeline, # of shots- but it seemed the shooter was taken down very fast
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 07:47 AM
Sep 2013

remember the early reports from eye witnesses about more than one gunman? I think the 2 reported in uniform took him down fast or shooter had a handgun and suicided.

There was no need of 400 riot police blocking emergency medical.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
5. always,always, always!!!!
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 09:49 AM
Sep 2013

after the fact reviews. This was inexcusable. Period. Always a fucking clusterfuck. Human beings will never get it right. I am just amazed at human incompetence. This guy possibly could have been put down early in his murderous rampage, saving some of the deceased's' families a lot of grief.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. At least we'll always have righteous rage based on little more than hindsight to throw around...
Thu Sep 19, 2013, 04:32 PM
Sep 2013

". Human beings will never get it right. I am just amazed at human incompetence..."

At least we'll always have righteous rage based on little more than a still-incomplete hindsight to throw around...

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
9. I care very little
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 09:31 AM
Sep 2013

about your statement. Mine is based on experience. I have been in situations where good people died when incompetence and human inability failed to come up in a timely manner with a solution, right in front of them mind you, because of some political reason(s). Until you've been there chief, don't thrown stones while living in a glass house.

davepc

(3,936 posts)
11. The Capitol Police need to be cautious about diversionary attacks..
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:42 PM
Sep 2013

If their SWAT team is off at the Navy Yard what happens if a secondary attack happens at the Capitol Building?

They had no way to know that it was a lone nut on a rampage.

You can't just assume that the situation exists in a vacuum.

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