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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:03 AM Sep 2013

Poll: GOP Opinion On Social Issues Wildly Out Of Step With Mainstream

Source: TPM

TOM KLUDT – SEPTEMBER 27, 2013, 9:43 AM EDT

Republicans are out of touch with much of the country on social issues such as gay marriage and abortion, according to new poll findings from Bloomberg released late Thursday.

While 55 percent of Americans — including 7 in 10 young people — support the right of gay and lesbian couples to get married, 52 percent of Republicans are opposed.

The poll also showed that 40 percent of Republicans want state legislatures to continue to push for laws that limit abortion, nearly double the 22 percent of Americans who feel that way.

A survey released in April showed that 66 percent of Republicans were opposed to marriage equality, while 53 percent of all Americans said they supported gay nuptials.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/poll-gop-opinion-on-social-issues-wildly-out-of-step-with-mainstream



The GOP is out of step with the rest of the country? Gee, what a surprise. NOT!
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Poll: GOP Opinion On Social Issues Wildly Out Of Step With Mainstream (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2013 OP
Old white people WovenGems Sep 2013 #1
Gerrymander n/t seabeckind Sep 2013 #2
Geriatric mandering WCGreen Sep 2013 #19
Just to be clear, not all old, white people agree with the Republicans. Arkansas Granny Sep 2013 #3
My now 90-year-old mother walked her precinct for LibDemAlways Sep 2013 #5
Sounds just like my Mother Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2013 #8
Of course not. There are 18 year old frothy teabaggers and 95 year old flaming liberals - but when MillennialDem Sep 2013 #6
+1 that is why I have some hope for the future LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #27
Do you think President Obama could have been elected without us? antiquie Sep 2013 #9
I am an old white person; they never had me and never will. Shrike47 Sep 2013 #21
Old white men. Women tend to get more radical with age. PDJane Sep 2013 #26
Thanks for posting what I was going to post...... llmart Sep 2013 #31
Tangents WovenGems Sep 2013 #32
This is so true seabeckind Sep 2013 #4
I have voted Democrat all my life but one very important thing about us old white people is that jwirr Sep 2013 #7
We do vote! redstatebluegirl Sep 2013 #10
Yes, many are starting to understand but at the moment we need all minorities to stand together jwirr Sep 2013 #12
You describe the end goal of the "both sides do it" camp. jeff47 Sep 2013 #14
Preach it, jwirr!.... DonViejo Sep 2013 #13
These numbers suggest 1/3 to 1/2 of Republicans don't agree with the GOP starroute Sep 2013 #11
So much for the GOP's vaunted "individual freedom" stance... DissidentVoice Sep 2013 #15
Vaunted and touted are not really the same thing. They touted a posture and that's it. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #18
The Republican party and Fox News has suffieciently scared their base.. yuiyoshida Sep 2013 #16
GOP has always been,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #17
Morality for others... DonViejo Sep 2013 #20
No reason for Democratic complacency Demeter Sep 2013 #22
this is not new and just knowing it won't effect elections because the left still ignore RW radio certainot Sep 2013 #23
Not to mention immigration judesedit Sep 2013 #24
Go Figure libodem Sep 2013 #25
The key word here is "wildly" Blue Owl Sep 2013 #28
You don't say! sakabatou Sep 2013 #29
In other news, H2O is wet. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #30
As if we weren't aware of this already Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2013 #33

WovenGems

(776 posts)
1. Old white people
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:07 AM
Sep 2013

That is what makes up the core of the republican base. And it keeps getting smaller despite advances in geriatrics. They need new blood but can't stomach any of the young folks because of how feel about social issues. Oh, what's an out of date political party to do?

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
5. My now 90-year-old mother walked her precinct for
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:25 AM
Sep 2013

Adlai Stevenson back in 1952. She has never voted for a Republican and never would. She thinks elderly people who vote R are ignorant for voting against their own interests.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
8. Sounds just like my Mother
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:34 AM
Sep 2013

Who is in her mid 70s.At least the part about people ignorantly,even stupidly,voting against their interests,regardless of age.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
6. Of course not. There are 18 year old frothy teabaggers and 95 year old flaming liberals - but when
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:32 AM
Sep 2013

you look at averages....

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
9. Do you think President Obama could have been elected without us?
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:40 AM
Sep 2013

When did Republicans lose their citizenship?
Were Republicans excluded from the poll of Americans?

Thank you.

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
26. Old white men. Women tend to get more radical with age.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 01:11 PM
Sep 2013

My mother is 87, and feels that abortion should be legal, and it's no one's business why a woman wants an abortion. She believes in a robust social services network, feels that feeding people is just what one should do, and was saddened at the appearance of the standard racial idiocies during the last American election. Her sad comment was that it was beginning to sound like the McCarthy era.

She was always a bit to the left of her peers, but she's gotten really progressive in her old age.

Most of her friends are like that, too, which I find interesting. She has a large number of friends among the younger group, too. It's interesting.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
31. Thanks for posting what I was going to post......
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 08:51 AM
Sep 2013

that it's mainly old, white men who are out of touch with today's world - not the women. I'm not as old as your mother, but I am a senior citizen and I've always voted for Democrats. I have never cast a vote for a Republican in my life and I vote in all elections. My first vote was for McGovern and I'm still very proud that at 21 I had the brains and foresight to not follow the herd. I also never voted for Reagan though many Democrats I knew did.

There is a cultural/sociological/psychological explanation I've read about why old, white men are more likely to become more conservative as they age - something to do with the loss of power that they felt was their birthright in America in past generations because they didn't have to share any of the power that was just handed to them through virtue of being white and a man. Now that the times have changed and women and minorities have fought for and demanded equal rights, well, they don't like it.

WovenGems

(776 posts)
32. Tangents
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 02:19 PM
Sep 2013

I knew my posting would get a few to say "But, but". A couple caught that the far right is made up of just that. Well, and a few youngsters who are angry the president is black.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
4. This is so true
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:19 AM
Sep 2013

but they control the US HOR.

And a big chunk of the states, gov and state houses.

And a lot of the cities.

As long as their tactic is to isolate the opposition in the big urban areas, then restrict the representation from those areas, then suppress the vote outside those areas...

They win. It doesn't matter if Manhattan and San Francisco thinks a different way when they control everything in between.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
7. I have voted Democrat all my life but one very important thing about us old white people is that
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:32 AM
Sep 2013

we VOTE. Not just when someone we especially like is running but all the time in every election. It is why the rethug whites still remain a power of any kind. As soon as the various groups who elected President Obama learn that we Democrats will hold the land in our hands. Every election federal, state and local is important.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
10. We do vote!
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:41 AM
Sep 2013

I have also been a Democrat all of my life. My parents and grandparents reminded us often that voting was a right that not everyone is given and we should exercise that right every time we are given the opportunity. I vote in school board elections, bond issues all of them. When I go to vote for city council and school board elections I am usually the only one there to vote. No waiting. Same thing with state elections if they are on an "off year".

I don't believe there is an "off year" election, they are all important. Unfortunately a lot of people our age are tea party voters and republicans who show up every single time. That is how we get the school boards, state legislatures we have.

Young voters are so disillusioned with the system they are staying home in droves. They have not been convinced their voice matters. That is something our party needs to work on. Obama did a great job of getting them to the polls, but not as much the second time as the first. We need to employ the same things to get them out on state and local elections that they did on the 2008 election.

If you combine the above with the tons of money the opposition seem to have, even in local elections, it is going to be a while before we gain any ground in the local and state elections.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. Yes, many are starting to understand but at the moment we need all minorities to stand together
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:55 AM
Sep 2013

with the young and those of us who are elderly to be able to save this nation from the corporations and the rethugs. One of the things I cannot stand is hearing someone say they are not going to vote because they did not like the way some issue ended. IMO that is the way raygun and the bushies all got in. People who would have normally voted straight Democrat were angry about something and either stayed home or did not vote at all. After working ones tail off to get a win it is very hard to watch it all go down the drain.

What I am saying to every Democrat - vote and vote every chance you get. We can win if we do.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
14. You describe the end goal of the "both sides do it" camp.
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 11:11 AM
Sep 2013

Their goal is to disillusion the young, so they stop bothering with voting. Much to the GOP's benefit.

It's been running since the 80s, first to convince "Generation X" to not bother voting, and now it's trying to target Millennials.

Population size made it extremely effective against Gen-X - we really were ignored by the political process since WWII and Boomers massively outnumbered us. I'm hopeful it's much less effective against Millennials since those two groups are dwindling, and the Millennial generation is large.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
11. These numbers suggest 1/3 to 1/2 of Republicans don't agree with the GOP
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 10:44 AM
Sep 2013

That's what I found surprising about the way the story is written up. Saying that 52% of Republicans are against gay marriage -- and that this has dropped from 66% just last spring -- says to me that six months from now the GOP will be out of touch even with most Republicans on this issue.

I think that's more significant than saying that Republicans skew slightly more conservative than most Americans on social issues.

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)
15. So much for the GOP's vaunted "individual freedom" stance...
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 11:13 AM
Sep 2013

"Individual freedom"...as long as it conforms to THEIR ideas of what that "freedom" should be.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
16. The Republican party and Fox News has suffieciently scared their base..
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 11:28 AM
Sep 2013

People who vote against their own best interests have been scared into doing so.. They also tell them that having an education is the height of snobbery. They are often told be proud of your ignorance and follow the herd like good little sheeple.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. this is not new and just knowing it won't effect elections because the left still ignore RW radio
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:12 PM
Sep 2013

that's the weapon the right uses to successfully project that its values are popular and common and acceptable - 1200 coordinated and unchallenged RW radio stations.

the left gives RW radio a free speech free ride.

these cons put think tank-fed carnival barkers on every corner and stump in the country to decide for the MSM what's acceptable and what's not and the left walks by with their ipods in theirears.

polls like this would have some value if they also asked how many of those sampled are among the 50 mil a week that those 1200 plus stations reach.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
25. Go Figure
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 12:48 PM
Sep 2013
Their moral outrage is usually phoney and a cover for the latent tendencies they must be fiercely protecting.

Thinking of my guy Larry Craig, for one.

Blue Owl

(50,356 posts)
28. The key word here is "wildly"
Fri Sep 27, 2013, 04:52 PM
Sep 2013

C'mon America, let's make sure this is manifest in the next election numbers...

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