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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 08:52 PM Sep 2013

(Canadian) Conservatives launching billion-dollar free market in medical marijuana

Source: Globe and Mail

The Conservative government is launching a $1.3-billion free market in medical marijuana this Tuesday, eventually providing an expected 450,000 Canadians with quality weed.

Health Canada is phasing out an older system on Monday that mostly relied on small-scale, homegrown medical marijuana of varying quality, often diverted illegally to the black market.

In its place, large indoor marijuana farms certified by the RCMP and health inspectors will produce, package and distribute a range of standardized weed, all of it sold for whatever price the market will bear. The first sales are expected in the next few weeks, delivered directly by secure courier.

Health Canada is placing no limits on the number of these new capital-intensive facilities, which will have mandatory vaults and security systems. Private-dwelling production will be banned. Imports from places such as the Netherlands will be allowed. Already 156 firms have applied for lucrative producer and distributor status since June, with the first two receiving licences just last week.

Read more: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/federal-government-to-launch-billion-dollar-free-market-in-medical-marijuana/article14590161/

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(Canadian) Conservatives launching billion-dollar free market in medical marijuana (Original Post) GliderGuider Sep 2013 OP
Oh for god sakes this is Woo Medicine right Sid? bahrbearian Sep 2013 #1
In homage: 1000words Sep 2013 #2
Looked at another way, it forbids medical mj users from growing their own anymore. Electric Monk Sep 2013 #3
Seems a gift to those well funded enough to start up big operations. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #5
Also a slap to those who can't afford food, let alone Conservatives overpriced Medical MJ inch4progress Sep 2013 #15
"Gitcher corporate pot contracts right heeyah- Sorry, no small growers allowed" NBachers Sep 2013 #4
I expect the United States to follow this model Revanchist Sep 2013 #6
"Private-dwelling production will be banned" Lonr Sep 2013 #7
+1000 DeSwiss Sep 2013 #8
In other words, a money laundering scheme for conservative politicians PSPS Sep 2013 #9
I think it will be hard to successfully prosecute small home growers as time goes on daleo Sep 2013 #10
Hope springs eternal. nt Bigmack Sep 2013 #12
K&R n/t NealK Sep 2013 #11
this, Joe Shlabotnik Sep 2013 #13
Wow, what an ANTI-CAPTIALIST plan Taverner Sep 2013 #14
Prohibition is a failed public policy. nt TeamPooka Sep 2013 #16
Now it will just be gangs and gov making profit LiberalLovinLug Sep 2013 #17
If the capitalists charge too much .. Lenomsky Sep 2013 #18
They may be getting ahead of themselves. CanSocDem Oct 2013 #19
Yep. I agree. GliderGuider Oct 2013 #20
Of course. CanSocDem Oct 2013 #21
 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
3. Looked at another way, it forbids medical mj users from growing their own anymore.
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 09:16 PM
Sep 2013

As I understand it, currently they can grow a couple plants for personal use if they have a proper prescription. That won't be allowed anymore.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
5. Seems a gift to those well funded enough to start up big operations.
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 09:24 PM
Sep 2013

And a slap in the face to the little producers.

Just Like America!

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
4. "Gitcher corporate pot contracts right heeyah- Sorry, no small growers allowed"
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 09:21 PM
Sep 2013

"Sorry, chump, ya just can't play wit' the big boys."

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
6. I expect the United States to follow this model
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 09:50 PM
Sep 2013

If medical marijuana ever become legalized on a federal level here I wouldn't be surprised if this is the model they adopt.

 

Lonr

(103 posts)
7. "Private-dwelling production will be banned"
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 09:52 PM
Sep 2013

Sounds like a pretty raw deal designed to generate corporate profits at the expense of those who could grow this plant themselves at a lower cost than "what the market will bare"...

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
8. +1000
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:10 PM
Sep 2013


''Patients often use several grams a day to alleviate a wide range of symptoms, including cancer-related pain and nausea. They’ll no longer be allowed to grow it for themselves under the new rules.''

PSPS

(13,595 posts)
9. In other words, a money laundering scheme for conservative politicians
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:13 PM
Sep 2013
Already 156 firms have applied for lucrative producer and distributor status since June, with the first two receiving licences just last week.


Instead of private growing, it will be limited to these now-wealthy "producers and distributors" who will sell "for whatever price the market will bear." In the conservative mind, you just can't let anyone suffer without making a profit from it.

And, no doubt, they will dutifully launder part of their profits back to the (conservative) politicians as a "campaign contribution."

daleo

(21,317 posts)
10. I think it will be hard to successfully prosecute small home growers as time goes on
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:16 PM
Sep 2013

They will do so, but juries will probably start to reject the rank hypocracy.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
13. this,
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:51 PM
Sep 2013

from the party that ran on "small government". I guess the temptation is just too great when you also run the police and prisons.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
17. Now it will just be gangs and gov making profit
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 09:48 AM
Sep 2013

The system they are throwing out was good also for the casual rec user. Many of these growers would grow a little extra and sell it on the side. Not technically legal but it meant you were buying from mom and pop grows instead of the Hell's Angels. And because many were doing that the prices have been fairly low.

This "what the market will bear" scares me. They will go all out to eradicate any home growers and throw them all in jail so they can jack the prices and your only alternative is to feed the gangs.

Lenomsky

(340 posts)
18. If the capitalists charge too much ..
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 01:53 PM
Sep 2013

the underground growers will charge less.

I can't see individuals being prosecuted for a few plants for personal consumption where large Organizations are growing for profit.

Having been a weed smoker for many years I personally wouldn't mind some standards in place even if it was large corporations milking the profits. Shrubbery here can cost anything from 180-300GBP an Oz and the grade varies enormously regardless of price from dirt weed to pristine flowers. I'd like to know exactly what I'm getting for my money .. which I generally do

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
19. They may be getting ahead of themselves.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:35 AM
Oct 2013


Understandable, considering the pressure put on them by One Puff Justin.

However I seem to remember a developing lawsuit of a year or two ago that was challenging the governments right to '...prevent citizens from growing their own medicine under the Charter of rights and freedoms.'

Despite Justin's benevolent government sanctions or Harpers free market, the true Canadian value is our own human right and freedom.

.
 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
21. Of course.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:39 AM
Oct 2013


But I'd be interested to fully understand the use of cannabis in that family. I know other kids of "regular users" who grew up with less...reverence...for it than I or their parents. Not that big a deal for them. Which makes me wonder about Justin.

He's making it a 'big deal' but not in a good way. He's seen its' effect as an agent of Harm Reduction his entire life. In the home, in the culture, in the society. He should be more forthcoming than merely admitting to "...a puff" at a dinner party.

However, if it motivates Harper to unleash the free market that we all know have been sitting by his side, drooling, waiting for permission to save him from all the complicated moral questions, we shouldn't be too disappointed or surprised.

If it shows a profit, it's good.

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