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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 12:57 PM Sep 2013

Government Shutdown Blame Would Fall On Republicans, GOP Seen As 'Spoiled Children': Poll

Source: Huffington Post

Most Americans would blame congressional Republicans rather than President Barack Obama for a shutdown, and many Americans view the GOP as acting like "spoiled children," according to a CNN/ORC International poll released Monday.

Forty-six percent of respondents would blame congressional Republicans, 36 percent would blame Obama and 13 percent would blame both. Sixty-nine percent said that the GOP is acting like "spoiled children" in the budget fight, while 58 percent think that of congressional Democrats and 49 percent think that of President Barack Obama. Six in 10 respondents reject the GOP's approach and think it is more important to avoid a shutdown than to make major changes to the Affordable Care Act.

The poll is an indication that the Republicans' hard-line approach does not resonate with many Americans, and could have consequences in future elections. Nevertheless, the GOP has touted the tactic of using the continuing resolution to fund the government to demand changes to Obamacare, crafting the populist slogan "Make DC Listen."

The government will not remain open past Monday if Congress does not approve funding to keep it running. The House passed a short-term funding bill Saturday with a repeal of a medical device tax and a one-year delay in the implementation of Obamacare. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has said that he will reject that approach when the Senate convenes later Monday.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/30/government-shutdown-poll_n_4016014.html?ref=topbar

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AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
2. 36% would blame Obama,
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 01:09 PM
Sep 2013

"58 percent think that of congressional Democrats and 49 percent think that (acting like spoiled children) of President Barack Obama"

This is good news??????

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
3. yeah, the numbers are disturbing
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 01:20 PM
Sep 2013

I guess that's the media's fault. All that false equivalency stuff.

lebkuchen

(10,716 posts)
5. Oh, absolutely. I work for the federal govt.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 01:38 PM
Sep 2013

and I will be "excepted" from the shutdown, so it won't affect me. However, just the hassle of wondering "what next" and "how does this affect my family" on the part of our military family is very bad publicity for the GOP. I look forward to the next election, as do others, I'm sure.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
8. Yes, they deserve the Blame.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 02:00 PM
Sep 2013

However, they are also the ones who tend to be most active on Off Year elections.

So please, please be mindful of 2014. Democrats need to win that. I understand speculation on 2016, but I can't stress enough the importance of 2014.

Have to point out as much as possible how badly they mangled things.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. MSNBC and CNN are wrong. They are not talking about the Hastert Rule, a stupid, undemocratic
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 03:45 PM
Sep 2013

rule that prevents a majority in the House from passing a bill unless a majority of Republicans backs it. How does that work? Under the Hastert Rule as I understand it, Boehner cannot bring a bill to the floor unless a majority of Republicans wants to vote for it. Can you think of anything less democratic with a small d?

blue14u

(575 posts)
10. Anyone paying real attention
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 03:23 PM
Sep 2013

can see right thru the repuks plan. They have no intention of delaying anything

on ACA.. They want more time to try and kill it.. Tea cruz wants more tv time!

I don't want any delay for this law. If we shutdown... It will be the Republicans

shutdown.. They have known this all along. Mitch McConnell needs to stop worrying

about a reelection and all the money RW's they are collecting from donors in the meantime...

Do your job and pass a CR and debt ceiling increase.. Mitch is dead either way he goes...

Oh well... he made his bed I say!
 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
12. GOP - poorly played.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 03:39 PM
Sep 2013

They've gerrymandered themselves so deep into rightwingnut territory they can't even see the pitcher.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. And still no discussion of the Hastert Rule which is what is keeping us from a resolution.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 03:43 PM
Sep 2013

The problem is that the Republicans have a rule that Boehner can't bring a bill to the floor for a vote in the House unless a majority of Republicans support it. So you can't pass a bill proposed by a Republican or Democrat if it has total Democratic support and, say 18 Republican votes.

You have to have at least a majority of Republicans favoring passage. That means deadlock. No compromises. It's death to progress.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
15. For Republicans, this is not about their numbers, it's about tanking the....
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 05:25 PM
Sep 2013

President's. They were semi successful the last time they did this. Their numbers are always in the toilet, and they don't seem to mind how they're viewed nationally, it's why they take these stupid risks. However, any Republican with national ambitions, has to know this is a fiasco in the making.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
17. Didn't these same assholes recent argue that the farm bill and SNAP should be done separately?
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:54 PM
Sep 2013

So why do they have to combine ACA and spending? The depths of GOP illogic knows no bounds.

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