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BrentWil

(2,384 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:22 PM Feb 2012

PPP Polls:Romney leads among Republicans in Michigan.It's Democrats putting Santorum over the top

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/momentum-back-toward-santorum-in-mi.html

Momentum back toward Santorum in MI?

PPP's final poll in Michigan finds Rick Santorum holding on to the smallest of leads with 38% to 37% for Mitt Romney, 14% for Ron Paul, and 9% for Newt Gingrich.

It's always good to be cautious with one night poll numbers, but momentum seems to be swinging in Santorum's direction. Romney led with those interviewed on Sunday, but Santorum has a 39-34 advantage with folks polled on Monday. The best sign that things have gone back toward Santorum might be that with those polled today who hadn't already voted, Santorum's advantage was 41-31.

Much has been made of Democratic efforts to turn out the vote for Santorum and we see evidence that's actually happening. Romney leads with actual Republican voters, 43-38. But Santorum's up 47-10 with Democratic voters, and even though they're only 8% of the likely electorate that's enough to put him over the top. The big question now is whether those folks will actually bother to show up and vote tomorrow.

Even though things seem to be moving back in Santorum's direction, there's one big reason to think that Romney will still come out as the winner tomorrow night. 18% of the electorate has already cast its ballots and with those voters in the bank Romney has a 56-29 advantage. Santorum's likely to win election day voters, but he''s going to have to do it by a wide margin to erase the lead Romney has stored. We see Santorum with a 40-33 advantage among those who have yet to vote.
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PPP Polls:Romney leads among Republicans in Michigan.It's Democrats putting Santorum over the top (Original Post) BrentWil Feb 2012 OP
Yes, it appears Santorum has turned the momentum.. DCBob Feb 2012 #1
It's great Ebadlun Feb 2012 #3
Romney blunted his momentum with his stupid comments at Ford Field. Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #4
Stupid comments and an empty stadium. Images oftern matter more than words. morningfog Feb 2012 #6
Santorum is a gaffe machine too. Gore1FL Feb 2012 #11
And he scares the crap out of people christx30 Feb 2012 #14
The Romney boys will just steal it and give it back later. sofa king Feb 2012 #2
Tomorrow is going to be a bad day for Romney, no matter what. morningfog Feb 2012 #5
Yeah, probably. DCBob Feb 2012 #7
Someone might want to to tell these guys the bad news: think Feb 2012 #8
The news is worse for them than they realize. Unless Paul gets 15%+, he won't get any morningfog Feb 2012 #9
Good. I don't know if a Santorum win would lead to his actually getting totodeinhere Feb 2012 #10
I mostly want to See Santorum win in MI to see which GOP Senator(s) step forward. Gore1FL Feb 2012 #12
I wouldn't mind seeing Santorum win MI Greywing Feb 2012 #13
Updated.. BrentWil Feb 2012 #15
Things are gonna get sticky. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2012 #16
yeah they are, with santorum rising up all over Michigan 0rganism Feb 2012 #18
Updated again. This is entertaining. NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #17
Final Update. This is one entertaining race! NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #19
Santorum would have more real appeal to Democrats than Romney. David__77 Feb 2012 #20
Yes its Operation Slap a Taliban .... Historic NY Feb 2012 #21

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
1. Yes, it appears Santorum has turned the momentum..
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:36 PM
Feb 2012

not sure how but he did. Actually, I think its more Romney's doing. Mittens is an incredible gaffe machine.. he's averaging about a 1 a day.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
6. Stupid comments and an empty stadium. Images oftern matter more than words.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:55 PM
Feb 2012

It looked like he couldn't pay people in his home state to come listen to his blabber for an hour.

Gore1FL

(21,130 posts)
11. Santorum is a gaffe machine too.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:21 PM
Feb 2012

He makes them on purpose as statements of principle, but still!

christx30

(6,241 posts)
14. And he scares the crap out of people
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 10:43 PM
Feb 2012

I want him to keep talking.
"Mr. Santorum? Sir? Keep telling us how horrible the gays are. Keep talking about minorities. Please do it. People are going to bolt faster than me when it's time to leave work. There are some conservatives that would rather stay home on election day than vote for you. So keep on talking. Please. Minorities and gays. Thanks."

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
5. Tomorrow is going to be a bad day for Romney, no matter what.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 07:54 PM
Feb 2012

That it is this close in his home state is very bad for him. Michigan has a strange delegate allocation, too. He could wind the popular vote and still get less delegates.

He'll win AZ, but it isn't really contested as it is winner take all and only 29 delegates.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
7. Yeah, probably.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:00 PM
Feb 2012

He might be able to make some claim that Democrats "stole" the election if there are alot of Dem votes for Santorum. Regardless if he loses he will start losing support from some mainstream GOPers.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
9. The news is worse for them than they realize. Unless Paul gets 15%+, he won't get any
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:08 PM
Feb 2012

delegates, if I understand the Michigan rules correctly.

What is noteworthy about that clip is that Paul looks to have gotten twice the number of supporters out than favorite son mittens did. I can't believe so many people fall for Paul's shit either.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
10. Good. I don't know if a Santorum win would lead to his actually getting
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 08:56 PM
Feb 2012

the nomination, but I hope he does. I want President Obama to win in an historic landslide.

Gore1FL

(21,130 posts)
12. I mostly want to See Santorum win in MI to see which GOP Senator(s) step forward.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:24 PM
Feb 2012

There is at least one who said they would call for a new candidate if Romney couldn't take MI. I suspect it is more than one.

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
13. I wouldn't mind seeing Santorum win MI
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:57 PM
Feb 2012

(although I'm nervous as hell about this lunatic) if Mittens could take PA

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
18. yeah they are, with santorum rising up all over Michigan
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:01 AM
Feb 2012

Things were so much more fun when he was a legit underdog and we could still talk about santorum "surging from the rear."

I've yet to see a quality double-entendre for the current situation.

David__77

(23,372 posts)
20. Santorum would have more real appeal to Democrats than Romney.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:38 AM
Feb 2012

I mean culturally backward Democrats. Romney is 100% "country club Republican," of a kind the GOP never has actually nominated.

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